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Post#21 » by Dadouv47 » Sun Jan 24, 2021 10:37 pm

Poku runs like Forrest Gump
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Post#22 » by ThunderBolt » Sun Jan 24, 2021 10:47 pm

Dadouv47 wrote:Poku runs like Forrest Gump

Before or after the leg braces?
bisme37 wrote:If there were magnets in basketballs so strong they changed the path of the ball as it flew through the air, wouldn't the ball then stick magnetically to the rim when it got there?
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Post#23 » by ThunderBolt » Sun Jan 24, 2021 10:55 pm

Is there any example of a player that started as bad as Poku that became a good offensive player?
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Post#24 » by Dadouv47 » Sun Jan 24, 2021 11:08 pm

George Hill should rest against the Blazers
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Post#25 » by ThunderBolt » Sun Jan 24, 2021 11:10 pm

Coach Daignault gets these guys to play hard.
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Post#26 » by spearsy23 » Sun Jan 24, 2021 11:24 pm

Shai may be a legitimate lead guard. I didn't think his playmaking was good enough, but I'm not so sure.
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
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Post#27 » by getrichordie » Mon Jan 25, 2021 3:27 am

ThunderBolt wrote:Is there any example of a player that started as bad as Poku that became a good offensive player?


Christian Wood?

Giannis?

Grant?
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Post#28 » by spearsy23 » Mon Jan 25, 2021 4:59 am

None of those guys were near as bad as poku.
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
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Post#29 » by bbms » Mon Jan 25, 2021 5:23 am

Jerami Grant was clearly worse through his first 15 games. Giannis was rocking 47.4% from the free-throw line through his first 15 games.

Per RAPTOR there are two Thunder rotation players worse than Poku (Maledon and Bazley), and four top 10 picks (Edwards, Okoro, Hayes, Toppin).

Sure there is a lot of work for the coaching staff with Pokuseviski, but bad rookies have been a trend league-wide (we should be able to understand that since we have two really bad rookies), with a good reason for that: shortened off and pre-season.

If ppl want to start digging graves, better dig a few more...
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Post#30 » by retrobro90 » Mon Jan 25, 2021 5:31 am

Poku's definitely made strides on defense and he's done a really nice job switching onto smaller perimeter guys. Feel encouraged by that as it seemed going into the draft that his defense was going to be what made or broke his NBA fit. As others have mentioned though his scoring (through no lack of effort) is near non existent. It's abundantly clear he needs a shot doctor because it looks beyond busted right now. He dolphin kicks and speeds up his release in situations where he should be taking his time. He's obviously not shy but he's extremely green to a variety of situations. Though I do like his willingness and ability to improvise given his advanced handle and passing ability for his size. He attempted an insane pass in the lane today to Roby and it bounced off Roby's fingers because I don't think anyone was expecting the ball to go where it did. Still obviously a work in progress who's gonna tank the lineups he plays with but it's hard to take my eyes off the kid.
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Post#31 » by ThunderBolt » Mon Jan 25, 2021 11:49 am

bbms wrote:Jerami Grant was clearly worse through his first 15 games. Giannis was rocking 47.4% from the free-throw line through his first 15 games.

Per RAPTOR there are two Thunder rotation players worse than Poku (Maledon and Bazley), and four top 10 picks (Edwards, Okoro, Hayes, Toppin).

Sure there is a lot of work for the coaching staff with Pokuseviski, but bad rookies have been a trend league-wide (we should be able to understand that since we have two really bad rookies), with a good reason for that: shortened off and pre-season.

If ppl want to start digging graves, better dig a few more...

Through his first 15 games Grant was shooting 28% from the field, 21% from three and 48% from the line. Pokusevski is shooting 22% from the field, and 16% from three. The good news is he hasn’t missed a free throw this year. The bad news is he hasn’t attempted one yet. Through those first 15 games Grant attempted 15 threes. Poku has already attempted 43. Offensively, Poku is clearly worse. In fact, his offensive rating the worst in the entire league among players that have played 100 minutes, per 538.

Yes a lot of rookies suck early. Yes, he can get better. Defending his performance with saying Bazley and Maledon are worse isn’t much comfort. Poku is worse than those guys offensively, which is what my initial comments where talking about.

No one is digging graves. I read on the GB that Brandon Ingram was the worst player in the league much of his rookie year. It’s been said multiple times that he’s a long term project but he just because he has a thunder uniform on doesn’t mean we shouldn’t be concerned about what we are seeing. Personally I’m just more baffled that a player that has his handles and fluidity with his size has such a poor shot, especially considering he’s wide open for most of his threes.
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Post#32 » by spearsy23 » Mon Jan 25, 2021 5:05 pm

bbms wrote:Jerami Grant was clearly worse through his first 15 games. Giannis was rocking 47.4% from the free-throw line through his first 15 games.

Per RAPTOR there are two Thunder rotation players worse than Poku (Maledon and Bazley), and four top 10 picks (Edwards, Okoro, Hayes, Toppin).

Sure there is a lot of work for the coaching staff with Pokuseviski, but bad rookies have been a trend league-wide (we should be able to understand that since we have two really bad rookies), with a good reason for that: shortened off and pre-season.

If ppl want to start digging graves, better dig a few more...

Did you miss the offensively part?
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
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Post#33 » by bbms » Mon Jan 25, 2021 6:34 pm

spearsy23 wrote:
bbms wrote:Jerami Grant was clearly worse through his first 15 games. Giannis was rocking 47.4% from the free-throw line through his first 15 games.

Per RAPTOR there are two Thunder rotation players worse than Poku (Maledon and Bazley), and four top 10 picks (Edwards, Okoro, Hayes, Toppin).

Sure there is a lot of work for the coaching staff with Pokuseviski, but bad rookies have been a trend league-wide (we should be able to understand that since we have two really bad rookies), with a good reason for that: shortened off and pre-season.

If ppl want to start digging graves, better dig a few more...

Did you miss the offensively part?


No.

Scoring is a big part of the offense, but it's not everything. Maybe I'm overvaluing context, but it matters.
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Post#34 » by Dadouv47 » Mon Jan 25, 2021 9:31 pm

Worst Thunder rookie ever for sure he had no preseason which is even more difficult when u come from another country etc so it's ok for him to struggle. I didn't expect him to be that bad though and his shot is clearly my biggest concern.
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Post#35 » by spearsy23 » Mon Jan 25, 2021 9:50 pm

bbms wrote:
spearsy23 wrote:
bbms wrote:Jerami Grant was clearly worse through his first 15 games. Giannis was rocking 47.4% from the free-throw line through his first 15 games.

Per RAPTOR there are two Thunder rotation players worse than Poku (Maledon and Bazley), and four top 10 picks (Edwards, Okoro, Hayes, Toppin).

Sure there is a lot of work for the coaching staff with Pokuseviski, but bad rookies have been a trend league-wide (we should be able to understand that since we have two really bad rookies), with a good reason for that: shortened off and pre-season.

If ppl want to start digging graves, better dig a few more...

Did you miss the offensively part?


No.

Scoring is a big part of the offense, but it's not everything. Maybe I'm overvaluing context, but it matters.

Are you claiming he does anything else well offensively? He's averaging more turnovers than assists, hasn't even gotten to the line in 12 games, and doesn't have a big enough frame to even man's contact on screens. He's cost us almost an entire gameoffensively already.
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.

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