11/30 | G21: Atlanta Hawks at Oklahoma City Thunder - 7PM CST

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Player(s) of the Game

Paul George | 20 PTS (6-14 FG, 3-8 3P), 5 REB
0
No votes
Alex Abrines | 21 PTS (7-11 3P)
9
56%
Russell Westbrook | 23 PTS (8-15 FG, 2-4 3P), 9 REB, 10 AST
3
19%
Patrick Patterson | 13 PTS (4-9 FG, 3-8 3P)
2
13%
Nerlens Noel | 14 PTS (6-7 FG), 7 REB, 3 STL
2
13%
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Re: 11/30 | G21: Atlanta Hawks at Oklahoma City Thunder - 7PM CST 

Post#101 » by Old Man Game » Sat Dec 1, 2018 1:05 pm

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I just don’t get the hype with Zion. I really don’t. Yeah, he’s a football player body playing basketball. He’s incredibly athletic. I just don’t see the fit in the NBA. How he gets a lot of his buckets in college isn’t going to translate in the NBA well in my opinion. However, he should be a defensive beast in the NBA. I can see him being the 5th maybe 4th best player on a contender and that’s not what I’m drafting for.

Reddish is the most intriguing prospect to me. I think he turns his game up a notch too once he gets in the league.


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zion williamson seems like the kind of player who is going to make someone look really, really bad when they pass on him for those reasons. it's not like he's unathletic and playing under the rim like michael beasley.


I think Zion will be really good if his body can hold up but im not sold on that he just keeps getting bigger and bigger i see his knees giving out quick.I do think Reddish and barret will have a better Nba Career.


That's me too, he's already pushing 300 lbs. What will he weigh when he's 25 years old?
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Re: 11/30 | G21: Atlanta Hawks at Oklahoma City Thunder - 7PM CST 

Post#102 » by ThunderBolt » Sat Dec 1, 2018 1:15 pm

Old Man Game wrote:
Mattv wrote:
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zion williamson seems like the kind of player who is going to make someone look really, really bad when they pass on him for those reasons. it's not like he's unathletic and playing under the rim like michael beasley.


I think Zion will be really good if his body can hold up but im not sold on that he just keeps getting bigger and bigger i see his knees giving out quick.I do think Reddish and barret will have a better Nba Career.


That's me too, he's already pushing 300 lbs. What will he weigh when he's 25 years old?

Right now it’s not fat. He isn’t tractor traylor. His size hasn’t compromised his speed. That’s why he’s such a unique prospect.
bisme37 wrote:If there were magnets in basketballs so strong they changed the path of the ball as it flew through the air, wouldn't the ball then stick magnetically to the rim when it got there?
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Re: 11/30 | G21: Atlanta Hawks at Oklahoma City Thunder - 7PM CST 

Post#103 » by Mattv » Sat Dec 1, 2018 1:21 pm

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Old Man Game wrote:Just so glad to see Abrines shoot it well. I'm ride or die with Abrines at this point.


Same here. Only way I’m moving Abrines is if it’s for Beal.


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His defense is bad its not Awful like it was last year. Hopefully his shots will keep falling like last night but the last 3 year tells different.I would trade him for alot of people not just Beal.
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Re: 11/30 | G21: Atlanta Hawks at Oklahoma City Thunder - 7PM CST 

Post#104 » by Old Man Game » Sat Dec 1, 2018 1:23 pm

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Old Man Game wrote:
Mattv wrote:
I think Zion will be really good if his body can hold up but im not sold on that he just keeps getting bigger and bigger i see his knees giving out quick.I do think Reddish and barret will have a better Nba Career.


That's me too, he's already pushing 300 lbs. What will he weigh when he's 25 years old?

Right now it’s not fat. He isn’t tractor traylor. His size hasn’t compromised his speed. That’s why he’s such a unique prospect.

Right. But how long can that last? That's the quandry. Who knows, maybe he hits 325 and still has that explosiveness. Or maybe he realizes it could become an issue and takes his diet regime extremely seriously his whole career. It just gives me a bit of pause.

Otherwise I'm 100% on board. He's the first player since Lebron that I can 100% say without doubt SHOULDN'T be playing against college kids. Just a total waste of time and borderline unfair to his competition honestly.
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11/30 | G21: Atlanta Hawks at Oklahoma City Thunder - 7PM CST 

Post#105 » by getrichordie » Sat Dec 1, 2018 2:01 pm

Old Man Game wrote:
Pillendreher wrote:Noel has been such an excellent pickup. The defense has been stellar with him on the floor (97.4 DRtG) which leads to the team being terrific defensively for the full game no matter who plays the 5: 96th percentile with Adams at the 5, 96th percentile with Noel at the 5. And offensively he's still crazy efficient: He leads the team in PER at almost 25, he leads the team in TS% at 67.9 % and is 2nd in BPM on the Thunder. Oh and he also leads the team in ORB%, TRB%, STL% and BLK%. And that's for 1.7 million a year. 8-)


I think the biggest thing for him is for him to share the floor with Dennis instead of Ray. When Russ was out and he had Felton instead his offense really suffered. But he's got a great chemistry working with Dennis. Last night was another great example of it. So. Many. Lobs.


Having Abrines back is a big help too. Noel flourishes when defense is paying attention to Schroder and Abrines. And then you have Patterson in the corner to worry about. Deadly second unit tbh.

This is really going to help Patterson’s game. He’s the 3rd/4th option on the second unit instead of 2nd and sometimes 1st option (with Felton).


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Re: 11/30 | G21: Atlanta Hawks at Oklahoma City Thunder - 7PM CST 

Post#106 » by Mattv » Sat Dec 1, 2018 2:02 pm

Old Man Game wrote:
Knrstz wrote:
Old Man Game wrote:
That's me too, he's already pushing 300 lbs. What will he weigh when he's 25 years old?

Right now it’s not fat. He isn’t tractor traylor. His size hasn’t compromised his speed. That’s why he’s such a unique prospect.

Right. But how long can that last? That's the quandry. Who knows, maybe he hits 325 and still has that explosiveness. Or maybe he realizes it could become an issue and takes his diet regime extremely seriously his whole career. It just gives me a bit of pause.

Otherwise I'm 100% on board. He's the first player since Lebron that I can 100% say without doubt SHOULDN'T be playing against college kids. Just a total waste of time and borderline unfair to his competition honestly.


Oh I believe it want be fat the dude it a gym rat but his frame and all 280 pounds of muscle and as hight as he jumps i just see his knees going bad.Thats why linebacker play football not basketball.
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Re: 11/30 | G21: Atlanta Hawks at Oklahoma City Thunder - 7PM CST 

Post#107 » by getrichordie » Sat Dec 1, 2018 2:11 pm

Mattv wrote:
Old Man Game wrote:
Knrstz wrote:Right now it’s not fat. He isn’t tractor traylor. His size hasn’t compromised his speed. That’s why he’s such a unique prospect.

Right. But how long can that last? That's the quandry. Who knows, maybe he hits 325 and still has that explosiveness. Or maybe he realizes it could become an issue and takes his diet regime extremely seriously his whole career. It just gives me a bit of pause.

Otherwise I'm 100% on board. He's the first player since Lebron that I can 100% say without doubt SHOULDN'T be playing against college kids. Just a total waste of time and borderline unfair to his competition honestly.


Oh I believe it want be fat the dude it a gym rat but his frame and all 280 pounds of muscle and as hight as he jumps i just see his knees going bad.Thats why linebacker play football not basketball.


Zion is going to be really good, no doubt, but he’s a 3rd/4th option at best. And 3rd is being optimistic. If the wrong team drafts him thinking he’s a 1st or 2nd option, he’s going to struggle. Phoenix is definitely his best fit, in my opinion. He can play off of Booker and Ayton and refine his game as an off-ball player.


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Re: 11/30 | G21: Atlanta Hawks at Oklahoma City Thunder - 7PM CST 

Post#108 » by RunOKC » Sat Dec 1, 2018 6:09 pm

So nice to have a good bench playmaker.

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