Early look at 2009 draft

PerkinsFor3 · Post #101 » by **PerkinsFor3** » Tue Feb 24, 2009 8:57 pm

monroe would ROCK on the thunder, but he's more of a pf than a c too. which means okc probably would trade green

sonic-ben · Post #102 » by **sonic-ben** » Tue Feb 24, 2009 10:45 pm

loot wrote:monroe would ROCK on the thunder, but he's more of a pf than a c too. which means okc probably would trade green

Still not enough pieces to trade .... collect and collect

8 man rotation

Durant 6-11
Westbrook 6-4
Green 6-9
Weaver 6-6
Sefolosha 6-7

would love to get
Thabeet 7-3 C and Josh Heytvelt F 6-11 outside shooter
Thambeet 7-3 and Terrance Williams 6-6 SG
Thambeet 7-3 and Sam Young 6-6
or
Hill 6-10 Pf and J Jordan 7-0 C
or

indo · Post #103 » by **indo** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 2:19 pm

If Rubio is really in the 2009 draft there is no question!

Nobody is better than Ricky Rubio outside the NBA!

http://acbtv.acb.com/channel/28

PerkinsFor3 · Post #104 » by **PerkinsFor3** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 3:58 am

stop the rubio love fest. he'll have an incredible tough time adjusting to the nba.

he's not lightning fast
his footwork needs a lot of work
he's really and i mean really skinny
he cant shoot

players as 'light' as rubio will need range and a good shoot. so far what he has is great instincts and a very good pass. thats it.

Post #105 » by **wizkid27** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 4:40 am

Yeah, I don't seem to be in love with Ricky as many others. Admittedly, I haven't seen him play nearly as much as a lot of other posters. However, he seems to have a few large weaknesses which will provide significant hurdles to making it in the league as the type of player that he is.

PerkinsFor3 · Post #106 » by **PerkinsFor3** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 4:42 am

rubio's pro's are perfect for the euro game and his con's will be more evident playing in the nba. not saying he wont succeed but there are a lot of things he'll have to work on.

remember shaun livingston? thats rubio right now. without the physical tools (length, long arms), and about the same holes in their games. shooting, lateral speed.

Post #107 » by **wizkid27** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 4:49 am

loot wrote:remember shaun livingston? thats rubio right now. without the physical tools (length, long arms), and about the same holes in their games. shooting, lateral speed.

That's the exact guy that the bad side conjures up images of for me. That guy was supposed to be a "lock" according to some people to be the next Magic Johnson.

PerkinsFor3 · Post #108 » by **PerkinsFor3** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 4:53 am

i too thought livingston would become an all star. the year la went up against the nuggets in the play offs, shaun was making it all happen. him, cassel and brand were playing great, and livingston put it all together. its just that his skills were at a much higher level than his body. every time he started getting into a groove and putting it all together something happened. so either way he was a bust. really a shame, and i still hope he makes it back to an nba roster next season. he deserves it.

Post #109 » by **wizkid27** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 5:03 am

Yeah, he was a good player to watch play for the patches where he'd bring it together and was healthy. Those long skinny limbs though... just couldn't hold up to the NBA

It_Was_Typed · Post #110 » by **It_Was_Typed** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 5:33 pm

If Presti continues with his idea of surrounding Durant with players that don't need the ball in their hands to be effective, than Thabeet is the logical choice. If he can translate his ability to block/alter shots, rebound at a decent rate and finish around the rim, he's perfect for this team.

Harden wouldn't be bad either, but it looks like they're committed to Weaver and Sefolosha for the time being.

PerkinsFor3 · Post #111 » by **PerkinsFor3** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 6:20 pm

It_Was_Typed wrote:it looks like they're committed to Weaver and Sefolosha for the time being.

isnt that because they are the only options? if possible go for harden. perfect fit.

indo · Post #112 » by **indo** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 7:06 pm

Please stop to compare Rubio with other players!

He his just a new kind of player that this game has never seen before!

It hard to explain! The only thing to do is to watch a game where ricky is playing.

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Ricky-Rubio-1155/

It_Was_Typed · Post #113 » by **It_Was_Typed** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 9:40 pm

loot wrote:
It_Was_Typed wrote:it looks like they're committed to Weaver and Sefolosha for the time being.

isnt that because they are the only options? if possible go for harden. perfect fit.

Yeah, that's true.

If it comes down to Thabeet or Harden, I think they would lean towards Thabeet. OKC doesn't really have a true center for the future (apologies to Robert Swift) and already have a decent tandem in Weaver/Sefolosha at SG.

sonic-ben · Post #114 » by **sonic-ben** » Sun Mar 1, 2009 5:57 am

Harden did not look good vs WSU

rushed his shot and forced the issue

Horryble · Post #115 » by **Horryble** » Sun Mar 1, 2009 6:48 am

sonic-ben wrote:We might move to top 5 pick if we keep winning ....

I do enjoy a competive team.... but

Yea, once the playoffs are out of the question, it just becomes better to lose. It didn't work out for the Celtics a couple years back when they were going for Oden/Durant, but that is still the smart move.

Horryble · Post #116 » by **Horryble** » Sun Mar 1, 2009 6:52 am

loot wrote:rubio's pro's are perfect for the euro game and his con's will be more evident playing in the nba. not saying he wont succeed but there are a lot of things he'll have to work on.

remember shaun livingston? thats rubio right now. without the physical tools (length, long arms), and about the same holes in their games. shooting, lateral speed.

Disagree. Rubio has done more by age 17 then SL ever accomplished. He will need to bulk up, but unlike Liv, I don't think he's a lifelong skeleton, he's just young and does not have the mass yet.

Rubio is the perfect pick for the Thunder, since they would then be on the 3 year plan to compete for a championship. That's how the media likes to classify it. They would be on the 5 year plan though.

PerkinsFor3 · Post #117 » by **PerkinsFor3** » Sun Mar 1, 2009 9:01 am

Horryble wrote:Disagree. Rubio has done more by age 17 then SL ever accomplished. He will need to bulk up, but unlike Liv, I don't think he's a lifelong skeleton, he's just young and does not have the mass yet.

i never compared their accompolishments?! im talking about their strenghts and weaknesses. a pg whith a shaky outside shot needs to be strong and physically build to get his driving game going. if he's weak/slow he'lll have trouble blowing past his defenders/posting up/playing inside.

Horryble · Post #118 » by **Horryble** » Sun Mar 1, 2009 7:55 pm

When he drives he bounces off people because he is skinny. But he's tougher than Liv or he will be. I don't think he's slow either. It's like the people that call Nash slow. But if he is so slow why does he turn games into track meets?

Big_Mac79 · Post #119 » by **Big_Mac79** » Sun Mar 1, 2009 8:09 pm

sonic-ben wrote:Harden did not look good vs WSU

rushed his shot and forced the issue

Yeah someone needs to seriously sell me on him
After seeing him in person I was very underwhelmed by his play
He was guarded by a freshman PF and could not do anything
He shot 2 for 11 from the field
Just looked horrible

sonic-ben · Post #120 » by **sonic-ben** » Sun Mar 1, 2009 10:19 pm

were you there live or by TV

Hardin is not quick at all