2021 NBA Draft Thread

[BlazersBroncos]

I think if Mobley is avaliable at #3, OKC should back up the draft pick filled dump truck for him.

#3 for #6, #16, #18 + 3 Future FRPs

I think he is truly special after evaluating him again. He can score at all 3 levels, defend at all 3 levels, moves like he is 6'5, switches at an elite rate, passes very well. He has the combination of freak big man athleticism and freak feel for the game. I think he is going to be a absolute monster.

[Dn4sty]

I think if Mobley is avaliable at #3, OKC should back up the draft pick filled dump truck for him.

#3 for #6, #16, #18 + 3 Future FRPs

I think he is truly special after evaluating him again. He can score at all 3 levels, defend at all 3 levels, moves like he is 6'5, switches at an elite rate, passes very well. He has the combination of freak big man athleticism and freak feel for the game. I think he is going to be a absolute monster.

Take back Love. Don’t give up all those assets

[BlazersBroncos]

Take back Love. Don’t give up all those assets

That would require CLE to devalue their pick to save money, I dont think they care enough. Love is the only big deal on their books and sacraficing the value of #3 by handicapping it with Love seems foolish.

I think it might take those assets and taking back Love to get Mobley. But if its a stars league and if you think Mobley is a legit star caliber prospect moving those assets is nothing.

[ThunderBolt]

Haven't listened but:

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I’m in a better place emotionally now.

[Dadouv47]

I think if Mobley is avaliable at #3, OKC should back up the draft pick filled dump truck for him.

#3 for #6, #16, #18 + 3 Future FRPs

I think he is truly special after evaluating him again. He can score at all 3 levels, defend at all 3 levels, moves like he is 6'5, switches at an elite rate, passes very well. He has the combination of freak big man athleticism and freak feel for the game. I think he is going to be a absolute monster.

Take back Love. Don’t give up all those assets

Take back Love and keep 18 would be my best offer to Cleveland.

That's still #6 + 4 FRPs + taking on Love.

[Dn4sty]

Want to know why I don’t buy the Fisher reporting about SGA at all…

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[ThunderBolt]

Take back Love. Don’t give up all those assets

That would require CLE to devalue their pick to save money, I dont think they care enough. Love is the only big deal on their books and sacraficing the value of #3 by handicapping it with Love seems foolish.

I think it might take those assets and taking back Love to get Mobley. But if its a stars league and if you think Mobley is a legit star caliber prospect moving those assets is nothing.

We hope that their front office is that stupid but if not, I’ll pay the price we need to get him. I think he’s worth it. He’s my favorite guy in the top five.

[Dn4sty]

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Take back Love. Don’t give up all those assets

That would require CLE to devalue their pick to save money, I dont think they care enough. Love is the only big deal on their books and sacraficing the value of #3 by handicapping it with Love seems foolish.

I think it might take those assets and taking back Love to get Mobley. But if its a stars league and if you think Mobley is a legit star caliber prospect moving those assets is nothing.

We hope that their front office is that stupid but if not, I’ll pay the price we need to get him. I think he’s worth it. He’s my favorite guy in the top five.

I think the final trade would look something like

Cavs get 6, 16, Clippers 2022 1st, and Baze

For

3 and Osman

[Dadouv47]

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That would require CLE to devalue their pick to save money, I dont think they care enough. Love is the only big deal on their books and sacraficing the value of #3 by handicapping it with Love seems foolish.

I think it might take those assets and taking back Love to get Mobley. But if its a stars league and if you think Mobley is a legit star caliber prospect moving those assets is nothing.

We hope that their front office is that stupid but if not, I’ll pay the price we need to get him. I think he’s worth it. He’s my favorite guy in the top five.

I think the final trade would look something like

Cavs get 6, 16, Clippers 2022 1st, and Baze

For

3 and Osman

That's clearly not enough. Baze has no value so 2 picks to go from Mobley to Kuminga is not enough ;(

Well hope cleveland likes Bazley if it can cost us a bit less.

[thedoppelganger]

Haven't listened but:

Read on Twitter

I’m in a better place emotionally now.

Just finished listening to the pod, and it is pretty humorous the way they talk about OKC as this boogeyman that'll be summoned if you look in a mirror and say 'draft picks' 3 times. All 3 of those guys said the teams ahead of us are just waiting for the draft day call where we put our godfather offer on the table, and that we've basically gone dark at this point for a bit now.

It did ease my nerves to hear them both emphatically disagree with the rumor, as I imagine the draft guys have different sources than Lowe does.

[Dn4sty]

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We hope that their front office is that stupid but if not, I’ll pay the price we need to get him. I think he’s worth it. He’s my favorite guy in the top five.

I think the final trade would look something like

Cavs get 6, 16, Clippers 2022 1st, and Baze

For

3 and Osman

That's clearly not enough. Baze has no value so 2 picks to go from Mobley to Kuminga is not enough ;(

Well hope cleveland likes Bazley if it can cost us a bit less.

Historically that has been enough I think. I’d add more, but I’ve seen as many as 5 firsts and that doesn’t seem likely.

[Dn4sty]

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I think the final trade would look something like

Cavs get 6, 16, Clippers 2022 1st, and Baze

For

3 and Osman

That's clearly not enough. Baze has no value so 2 picks to go from Mobley to Kuminga is not enough ;(

Well hope cleveland likes Bazley if it can cost us a bit less.

Historically that has been enough I think. I’d add more, but I’ve seen as many as 5 firsts and that doesn’t seem likely.

From easily the most unbiased and fair mod in the T&T board.

These are overpays. Remember Dallas gave up one top 5 protected pick to go from 5 to 3 to get a better prospect than Mobley. All this talk about 6/16/18/future picks/Poku/eating Love is absurd.

Just because OKC has tons of assets doesn't mean every team gets extra value for their asset.

[ThunderBolt]

From Zach Harper on the athletic…

Spoiler:

3. Will Evan Mobley be the guy at No. 3, and will it be Cleveland picking?

Evan Mobley will definitely be the guy at No. 3 if the Rockets don’t surprise everybody with him at No. 2. I just don’t have a ton of faith the Cleveland Cavaliers will be the one making the pick. I also don’t think a trade is imminent. There are just a few teams looking to move into the top 3. Cleveland doesn’t seem close to contending for a playoff spot. And that’s with the Play-In Tournament. They’d love to get off some of their bad contracts for veterans on the roster, and they’re expected to keep Jarrett Allen in restricted free agency, either by coming to terms on an agreement or matching an offer sheet should he try to escape. So if you’re the Cavs and you aren’t in love with Mobley at all costs at No. 3, shouldn’t you be taking Sam Presti’s phone calls?

If the Cavs could move Kevin Love’s contract, receive the sixth pick in this draft, and get a bunch of future draft capital from the team with the most draft capital in the league, that might be enticing enough to decide Mobley doesn’t have to be in your future. OKC might be the only team that can openly take a deal as bad as Love’s while still offering up some truly competitive pick options for the Cavs.

5. Now that the top 4 are out of the way, is Scottie Barnes locked into the fifth spot?

Everybody I’ve talked to around the NBA believes Orlando isn’t letting Scottie Barnes slip past them at No. 5.

6. Will Oklahoma City shock everybody and not pick Jonathan Kuminga with the sixth pick?

If the Thunder can’t trade up into the top 3, this would leave them selecting at No. 6. That makes Jonathan Kuminga the selection, right? Not so fast, my internet friend! James Bouknight has emerged as a real possibility with the Thunder. Forever, Kuminga appeared to be one of the top 5 prospects in this draft. Then a lot of executives cooled on him enough during the G League season that Kuminga could actually end up falling to No. 7 with Barnes and Bouknight leapfrogging him. Is that insane? Possibly. Kuminga has the biggest potential of anybody left on this board. There was a time in which Kuminga was considered the highest-ceiling guy after Cunningham in this draft.

Bouknight has been spectacular in his lead-up to the draft. The combine was elite for him. Workouts and interviews have left executives impressed. He’s shooting the ball the way he needed to in order to make everybody think they’re getting a potentially elite scorer at the next level. Kuminga hasn’t been disappointing necessarily. He’s had great experiences in this draft process. Ultimately, I think the Thunder take Kuminga because of the potential pairing him with Shai Gilgeous-Alexander. But it’s no longer the certainty it appeared to be a week ago.

[Dadouv47]

That's clearly not enough. Baze has no value so 2 picks to go from Mobley to Kuminga is not enough ;(

Well hope cleveland likes Bazley if it can cost us a bit less.

Historically that has been enough I think. I’d add more, but I’ve seen as many as 5 firsts and that doesn’t seem likely.

From easily the most unbiased and fair mod in the T&T board.

These are overpays. Remember Dallas gave up one top 5 protected pick to go from 5 to 3 to get a better prospect than Mobley. All this talk about 6/16/18/future picks/Poku/eating Love is absurd.

Just because OKC has tons of assets doesn't mean every team gets extra value for their asset.

I don't think the " Dallas move up to get a better prospect than Mobley'' argument makes sense here. At that time Doncic wasn't seen as valuable as Mobley. The hype around Mobley before the draft is a lot higher than Doncic at that time and most consider he would be a #1 in a lot of drafts. Also dropping from 3 to 6 in this draft is pretty big in terms of talent, it wasn't the case in 2018.

If you only need a couple picks and a guy like Bazley to move up, Orlando gonna beat that offer pretty easily so Cleveland can take Scottie Barnes.

But yeah I really made an offer that I don't think Cleveland can decline so I really hope we can move up offering a bit less.

[ThunderBolt]

Haven't listened but:

Read on Twitter

I’m in a better place emotionally now.

Just finished listening to the pod, and it is pretty humorous the way they talk about OKC as this boogeyman that'll be summoned if you look in a mirror and say 'draft picks' 3 times. All 3 of those guys said the teams ahead of us are just waiting for the draft day call where we put our godfather offer on the table, and that we've basically gone dark at this point for a bit now.

It did ease my nerves to hear them both emphatically disagree with the rumor, as I imagine the draft guys have different sources than Lowe does.

Just got a chance to listen as well. Before talking okc, they did mention that they believe Cleveland is content to stay at three. Also, doesn’t sound like Givony believes the plantar fasciitis was legit. He mentioned that if we shut down shai again, he might not be happy about being in okc. Givonny comped Kuminga to a bigger version of Derozan.

[Dadouv47]

I’m in a better place emotionally now.

Just finished listening to the pod, and it is pretty humorous the way they talk about OKC as this boogeyman that'll be summoned if you look in a mirror and say 'draft picks' 3 times. All 3 of those guys said the teams ahead of us are just waiting for the draft day call where we put our godfather offer on the table, and that we've basically gone dark at this point for a bit now.

It did ease my nerves to hear them both emphatically disagree with the rumor, as I imagine the draft guys have different sources than Lowe does.

Just got a chance to listen as well. Before talking okc, they did mention that they believe Cleveland is content to stay at three. Also, doesn’t sound like Givony believes the plantar fasciitis was legit. He mentioned that if we shut down shai again, he might not be happy about being in okc. Givonny comped Kuminga to a bigger version of Derozan.

They really good at faking injury then if SGA missed team Canada as well...

[ThunderBolt]

Just finished listening to the pod, and it is pretty humorous the way they talk about OKC as this boogeyman that'll be summoned if you look in a mirror and say 'draft picks' 3 times. All 3 of those guys said the teams ahead of us are just waiting for the draft day call where we put our godfather offer on the table, and that we've basically gone dark at this point for a bit now.

It did ease my nerves to hear them both emphatically disagree with the rumor, as I imagine the draft guys have different sources than Lowe does.

Just got a chance to listen as well. Before talking okc, they did mention that they believe Cleveland is content to stay at three. Also, doesn’t sound like Givony believes the plantar fasciitis was legit. He mentioned that if we shut down shai again, he might not be happy about being in okc. Givonny comped Kuminga to a bigger version of Derozan.

They really good at faking injury then if SGA missed team Canada as well...

I often wonder if other teams fans listen to people talk about their teams and are as clueless as a lot of people are on the thunder. I know Givony is more of a draft specialist but it’s still kind of uninformed.

[Dadouv47]

Any idea how we could make a deal with the Kings for 9? I can see a deal with the Hornets, Indiana but no idea how we could reach #9

[ThunderBolt]

Any idea how we could make a deal with the Kings for 9? I can see a deal with the Hornets, Indiana but no idea how we could reach #9

Teams looking for win-now help are tough for us to work with.

[Dadouv47]

Any idea how we could make a deal with the Kings for 9? I can see a deal with the Hornets, Indiana but no idea how we could reach #9

Teams looking for win-now help are tough for us to work with.

yup won't be as good and fun as last offseason.