2021 NBA Draft Thread

Post #1101 » by **Dadouv47** » Tue Jul 27, 2021 10:23 pm

this draft is so deep that I wouldn't complain if we keep 16 & 18. Wanted Giddey but he will be gone by 10. Financially I don't know if Presti is willing to draft 3 FRPs though.

Dn4sty · Post #1102 » by **Dn4sty** » Tue Jul 27, 2021 11:44 pm

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Devilanche · Post #1103 » by **Devilanche** » Wed Jul 28, 2021 4:57 am

Dadouv47 wrote:
ThunderBolt wrote:
Dadouv47 wrote:Any idea how we could make a deal with the Kings for 9? I can see a deal with the Hornets, Indiana but no idea how we could reach #9

Teams looking for win-now help are tough for us to work with.

yup won't be as good and fun as last offseason.

Presti just need to absorb salary and move them thereafter . If anyone can it’s Presti

Devilanche · Post #1104 » by **Devilanche** » Wed Jul 28, 2021 4:59 am

Dadouv47 wrote:this draft is so deep that I wouldn't complain if we keep 16 & 18. Wanted Giddey but he will be gone by 10. Financially I don't know if Presti is willing to draft 3 FRPs though.

No issue to me . We got space when they are in their rookie contract and we want to be in a position to think should we extend them once the contract is over. That means they have developed abit . Whether developed enough is another issue

NYCbeadyrae · Post #1105 » by **NYCbeadyrae** » Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:23 am

I’m concerned that Bouknight won’t even be on the board at 6. Magic and Toronto like him too. You may end up with bust candidate Barnes.

Post #1106 » by **ThunderBolt** » Wed Jul 28, 2021 9:27 am

NYCbeadyrae wrote:I’m concerned that Bouknight won’t even be on the board at 6. Magic and Toronto like him too. You may end up with bust candidate Barnes.

Toronto and Orlando also like Barnes so that puts Suggs likely falling to us at five. I’m more than ok with that.

Devilanche · Post #1107 » by **Devilanche** » Wed Jul 28, 2021 12:03 pm

ThunderBolt wrote:
NYCbeadyrae wrote:I’m concerned that Bouknight won’t even be on the board at 6. Magic and Toronto like him too. You may end up with bust candidate Barnes.

Toronto and Orlando also like Barnes so that puts Suggs likely falling to us at five. I’m more than ok with that.

If he falls to 5 , will you try to trade up ?

Assuming 1-5 is the top 3 and 4th is bouknight/Barnes for some reasons

Post #1108 » by **ThunderBolt** » Wed Jul 28, 2021 12:15 pm

Devilanche wrote:
ThunderBolt wrote:
NYCbeadyrae wrote:I’m concerned that Bouknight won’t even be on the board at 6. Magic and Toronto like him too. You may end up with bust candidate Barnes.

Toronto and Orlando also like Barnes so that puts Suggs likely falling to us at five. I’m more than ok with that.

If he falls to 5 , will you try to trade up ?

Assuming 1-5 is the top 3 and 4th is bouknight/Barnes for some reasons

Yep!

Old Man Game · Post #1109 » by **Old Man Game** » Wed Jul 28, 2021 12:47 pm

Kevin Pelton's system not high on Bouknight. Has him ranked as the 32nd ranked prospect.

32. James Bouknight
Guard | UConn
Top 100: No. 9
Stats: No. 62

Consensus: 0.5 WARP

Bouknight's stats-only projection pegs him worse than replacement level in large part because of iffy outside shooting. He hit just 32% of his 3s in two years at UConn, though 80% free throw shooting is encouraging. Bouknight also had nearly 1.5 times as many turnovers as assists, suggesting concerns about his decision making.

Post #1110 » by **Dadouv47** » Wed Jul 28, 2021 1:36 pm

Old Man Game wrote:Kevin Pelton's system not high on Bouknight. Has him ranked as the 32nd ranked prospect.

32. James Bouknight
Guard | UConn
Top 100: No. 9
Stats: No. 62

Consensus: 0.5 WARP

Bouknight's stats-only projection pegs him worse than replacement level in large part because of iffy outside shooting. He hit just 32% of his 3s in two years at UConn, though 80% free throw shooting is encouraging. Bouknight also had nearly 1.5 times as many turnovers as assists, suggesting concerns about his decision making.

Is Kevin Pelton system semi reliable? Know he had Lamelo first last season but don't know about the rest

Post #1111 » by **ThunderBolt** » Wed Jul 28, 2021 1:55 pm

Dadouv47 wrote:
Old Man Game wrote:Kevin Pelton's system not high on Bouknight. Has him ranked as the 32nd ranked prospect.

32. James Bouknight
Guard | UConn
Top 100: No. 9
Stats: No. 62

Consensus: 0.5 WARP

Bouknight's stats-only projection pegs him worse than replacement level in large part because of iffy outside shooting. He hit just 32% of his 3s in two years at UConn, though 80% free throw shooting is encouraging. Bouknight also had nearly 1.5 times as many turnovers as assists, suggesting concerns about his decision making.

Is Kevin Pelton system semi reliable? Know he had Lamelo first last season but don't know about the rest

Just looking back at the last two years, I don't see anything extraordinary. Like all of the other "experts", he's had some hits and misses.

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Post #1112 » by **Dadouv47** » Wed Jul 28, 2021 1:55 pm

btw I would make the LAC 2022 pick top 4 protected in any trade to move up. Likely gonna be a top 15-20 pick but we never know.

Post #1113 » by **Dadouv47** » Wed Jul 28, 2021 2:00 pm

ThunderBolt wrote:
Dadouv47 wrote:
Old Man Game wrote:Kevin Pelton's system not high on Bouknight. Has him ranked as the 32nd ranked prospect.

32. James Bouknight
Guard | UConn
Top 100: No. 9
Stats: No. 62

Consensus: 0.5 WARP

Bouknight's stats-only projection pegs him worse than replacement level in large part because of iffy outside shooting. He hit just 32% of his 3s in two years at UConn, though 80% free throw shooting is encouraging. Bouknight also had nearly 1.5 times as many turnovers as assists, suggesting concerns about his decision making.

Is Kevin Pelton system semi reliable? Know he had Lamelo first last season but don't know about the rest

Just looking back at the last two years, I don't see anything extraordinary. Like all of the other "experts", he's had some hits and misses.

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pretty impressive 2018 draft. Only big mistake was SGA. He had Dort as a late FRP though

Post #1114 » by **Dadouv47** » Wed Jul 28, 2021 2:01 pm

Some misses but no star player from 2018-2020 are in he 30+ so...makes you wonder about Bouknight

Post #1115 » by **ThunderBolt** » Wed Jul 28, 2021 2:07 pm

Dadouv47 wrote:
Spoiler:
ThunderBolt wrote:
Dadouv47 wrote:
Is Kevin Pelton system semi reliable? Know he had Lamelo first last season but don't know about the rest

Just looking back at the last two years, I don't see anything extraordinary. Like all of the other "experts", he's had some hits and misses.

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pretty impressive 2018 draft. Only big mistake was SGA. He had Dort as a late FRP though

The top ten of the 2018 draft was mostly similar among the experts. Vecenie had Ayton one and Doncic two, Shai at ten...etc but not drastically different. I wouldn't put too much weight to anything he says about Bouknight. At this point we know the strengths and concerns. There are a lot more new believers in Bouknight than new doubters.

Post #1116 » by **Dadouv47** » Wed Jul 28, 2021 2:14 pm

ThunderBolt wrote:
Dadouv47 wrote:
Spoiler:
ThunderBolt wrote:
Just looking back at the last two years, I don't see anything extraordinary. Like all of the other "experts", he's had some hits and misses.

Read on Twitter

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pretty impressive 2018 draft. Only big mistake was SGA. He had Dort as a late FRP though

The top ten of the 2018 draft was mostly similar among the expers. Vecenie had Ayton one and Doncic two, Shai at ten...etc but not drastically different. I wouldn't put too much weight to anything he says about Bouknight. At this point we know the strengths and concerns. There are a lot more new believers in Bouknight than new doubters.

fair enough. Hope Pelton is right about Sengun and Presti goes after him :lol:

Makes me wonder how his system works because looks like international players are ranked higher than in most mock drafts (Sengun1 /Giddey at 5 and Garuba at 9)

Dn4sty · Post #1117 » by **Dn4sty** » Wed Jul 28, 2021 2:31 pm

ESPN mock (I probably trust it the most) has Wagner up to 7 and Kuminga going 8. I wonder if Magic decide to go with Moody instead. If they do, I would attempt to move to 9 and draft Kuminga.

This is all assuming that OKC stays at 6.

Post #1118 » by **bondom34** » Wed Jul 28, 2021 2:44 pm

I'm still at the point of being OK with about anyone (other than I still can't get behind Sengun). Think I'd prefer Moody/Wagner to Bouknight but I'll go with it, and think I would rather any of them to Kuminga.

Wish they could find a way to get Suggs but seems very unlikely.

Post #1119 » by **ThunderBolt** » Wed Jul 28, 2021 2:49 pm

bondom34 wrote:I'm still at the point of being OK with about anyone (other than I still can't get behind Sengun). Think I'd prefer Moody/Wagner to Bouknight but I'll go with it, and think I would rather any of them to Kuminga.

Wish they could find a way to get Suggs but seems very unlikely.

How high of an upside do you see with Moody and Wagner?

Post #1120 » by **bondom34** » Wed Jul 28, 2021 2:53 pm

ThunderBolt wrote:
bondom34 wrote:I'm still at the point of being OK with about anyone (other than I still can't get behind Sengun). Think I'd prefer Moody/Wagner to Bouknight but I'll go with it, and think I would rather any of them to Kuminga.

Wish they could find a way to get Suggs but seems very unlikely.

How high of an upside do you see with Moody and Wagner?

Not really sure there is a ton. But I'm also not entirely sure what Bouknight's is. McCollum-ish? Kuminga's in theory is probably the best but he might also just be really bad too. Barnes could go either way as well.

Sort of feels like they all have flaws just in different areas and its the matter of picking your poison.