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Post#1101 » by Patches Perry » Mon Jun 19, 2023 8:49 pm

Throwing this out there as a "when pigs fly" scenario, but Bill Simmons is saying sources close to him believe Zion will be traded Thursday.

Any chance Presti is lining up for that trade? OKC has such good young assets and picks that they could probably put together as good of a deal as anyone.

Zion worries me a great deal with his injuries, but him and Chet would be a real Yin and Yang in the front court. Zion's play style fits pretty well with Presti's image of this team.
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Post#1102 » by ThunderBolt » Mon Jun 19, 2023 8:51 pm

jake_swivel wrote:12 and micic for 10 and Bertans. Who says no?

I think we could make Bertans a semi-useful player again.
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Post#1103 » by jake_swivel » Mon Jun 19, 2023 8:59 pm

I’d be pretty cool with 12 and micic for 10 and Bertans.

Or

Sign and play micic and trade Dort for (sign and trade) PJ Washington or John Collins. Draft Leonard miller or Grady Dick at 12. Balance the roster a bit while keeping core pieces in place. Man, it’d make next year real fun. Compete and watch young guys grow at the same time.
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Post#1104 » by Ducklett » Mon Jun 19, 2023 9:02 pm

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Ducklett wrote:Would OKC want to trade up to 6 for 12 and 2025 1sts?


Which ones?


I read the little blurb about what future picks you own and it was a bit confusing. I didn't really come in with something specific in mind, I just know you guys seem to have a glut of picks in 25 (as does Utah) and was wondering if moving up to 6 was something relevant to OKC/the fanbase.
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Post#1105 » by jake_swivel » Mon Jun 19, 2023 9:10 pm

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Ducklett wrote:Would OKC want to trade up to 6 for 12 and 2025 1sts?


Which ones?


I read the little blurb about what future picks you own and it was a bit confusing. I didn't really come in with something specific in mind, I just know you guys seem to have a glut of picks in 25 (as does Utah) and was wondering if moving up to 6 was something relevant to OKC/the fanbase.


I think most OKC fans are interested in moving up for the right price. And you’re right, which draft assets will be available is super confusing.
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Post#1106 » by Dadouv47 » Mon Jun 19, 2023 9:55 pm

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jake_swivel wrote:
Ducklett wrote:Would OKC want to trade up to 6 for 12 and 2025 1sts?


Which ones?


I read the little blurb about what future picks you own and it was a bit confusing. I didn't really come in with something specific in mind, I just know you guys seem to have a glut of picks in 25 (as does Utah) and was wondering if moving up to 6 was something relevant to OKC/the fanbase.


We have Sixers top 6 protected FRP and Miami lotto protected FRP in 2025...I would for sure trade both to move up. Orlando probably won't
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Post#1107 » by ThunderBolt » Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:43 pm

Patches Perry wrote:Throwing this out there as a "when pigs fly" scenario, but Bill Simmons is saying sources close to him believe Zion will be traded Thursday.

Any chance Presti is lining up for that trade? OKC has such good young assets and picks that they could probably put together as good of a deal as anyone.

Zion worries me a great deal with his injuries, but him and Chet would be a real Yin and Yang in the front court. Zion's play style fits pretty well with Presti's image of this team.

I see Charlotte wanting to go all in alongside Lemlo and New Orleans resetting around Scoot. Anything is possible but I'm not moving Shai, J Dub or Chet for Chubbs Williamson.
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Post#1108 » by jake_swivel » Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:49 pm

ThunderBolt wrote: “Chubbs Williamson”


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Post#1109 » by Patches Perry » Tue Jun 20, 2023 8:23 pm

Just looked at 5 different mock drafts back to back, and all 5 had OKC picking a different player.
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Post#1110 » by Devilanche » Wed Jun 21, 2023 5:38 am

Patches Perry wrote:Just looked at 5 different mock drafts back to back, and all 5 had OKC picking a different player.

We are at the end of the tier but if there’s any riser from mocks , we probably will be happy with whoever fall.
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Post#1111 » by Dadouv47 » Wed Jun 21, 2023 10:36 am

unpopular opinion: I would be fine if we trade Isaiah Joe for a middle to late FRP (17-23 range)

Joe has been great but it's not clear to me if he overperformed or not. I'm still not totally sold on him even if we badly need his shooting. Gotta sell high sometimes :-?
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Post#1112 » by Xatticus » Wed Jun 21, 2023 2:22 pm

Dadouv47 wrote:unpopular opinion: I would be fine if we trade Isaiah Joe for a middle to late FRP (17-23 range)

Joe has been great but it's not clear to me if he overperformed or not. I'm still not totally sold on him even if we badly need his shooting. Gotta sell high sometimes :-?


I saw enough development from him that I'm comfortable with him in the rotation to see how he gets on. Coming out of college, he did little other than fire away from long range. He won't beat you with his dribble, but I really thought his decision-making was good when he was run off of the 3-point line. I'm not going to fall in love with his game though as I don't really see a pathway to where his defense isn't an issue in the postseason. I'd have to have a specific target that I wanted to get and they would still have to be on the board at that pick for me to deal Joe for a pick in that range though.
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Post#1113 » by jake_swivel » Wed Jun 21, 2023 2:48 pm

Dadouv47 wrote:unpopular opinion: I would be fine if we trade Isaiah Joe for a middle to late FRP (17-23 range)

Joe has been great but it's not clear to me if he overperformed or not. I'm still not totally sold on him even if we badly need his shooting. Gotta sell high sometimes :-?


Booooooooooooooo.

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Post#1114 » by Patches Perry » Wed Jun 21, 2023 3:03 pm

Dadouv47 wrote:unpopular opinion: I would be fine if we trade Isaiah Joe for a middle to late FRP (17-23 range)

Joe has been great but it's not clear to me if he overperformed or not. I'm still not totally sold on him even if we badly need his shooting. Gotta sell high sometimes :-?


He is on a very good contract for the next two seasons. It kind of depends on whether he is part of the long term plan or not. If we're not planning on paying him after 2025, then looking to deal him now might be the best option.

Presti will also have to be intuitive about how much Joe wants to be here, or whether OKC is just a means to an end for him to get the largest contract possible down the road (good on him either way). Obviously he is worth more than he makes now, but if he keeps playing well, he might be a prime candidate for being very overpaid in 2025.

I'm not sure a FRP 17-23 does it for me, but as a sweetener in a deal to secure long term talent and pieces, absolutely. This is why I hope Presti is active on the trade market this summer, because his assets and leverage are likely never going to be better than they are now.
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Post#1115 » by Devilanche » Wed Jun 21, 2023 3:13 pm

Dadouv47 wrote:unpopular opinion: I would be fine if we trade Isaiah Joe for a middle to late FRP (17-23 range)

Joe has been great but it's not clear to me if he overperformed or not. I'm still not totally sold on him even if we badly need his shooting. Gotta sell high sometimes :-?

Maybe after another season .
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Post#1116 » by Devilanche » Wed Jun 21, 2023 3:15 pm

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Dadouv47 wrote:unpopular opinion: I would be fine if we trade Isaiah Joe for a middle to late FRP (17-23 range)

Joe has been great but it's not clear to me if he overperformed or not. I'm still not totally sold on him even if we badly need his shooting. Gotta sell high sometimes :-?


He is on a very good contract for the next two seasons. It kind of depends on whether he is part of the long term plan or not. If we're not planning on paying him after 2025, then looking to deal him now might be the best option.

Presti will also have to be intuitive about how much Joe wants to be here, or whether OKC is just a means to an end for him to get the largest contract possible down the road (good on him either way). Obviously he is worth more than he makes now, but if he keeps playing well, he might be a prime candidate for being very overpaid in 2025.

I'm not sure a FRP 17-23 does it for me, but as a sweetener in a deal to secure long term talent and pieces, absolutely. This is why I hope Presti is active on the trade market this summer, because his assets and leverage are likely never going to be better than they are now.

Even if his worth is highest today, there’s still value in keeping him for another season if it will allow the team to play better this season .


All the while hoping the rest of the team 3 point shooting increase before we consider trading him away.
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Post#1117 » by Patches Perry » Wed Jun 21, 2023 3:48 pm

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Dadouv47 wrote:unpopular opinion: I would be fine if we trade Isaiah Joe for a middle to late FRP (17-23 range)

Joe has been great but it's not clear to me if he overperformed or not. I'm still not totally sold on him even if we badly need his shooting. Gotta sell high sometimes :-?


He is on a very good contract for the next two seasons. It kind of depends on whether he is part of the long term plan or not. If we're not planning on paying him after 2025, then looking to deal him now might be the best option.

Presti will also have to be intuitive about how much Joe wants to be here, or whether OKC is just a means to an end for him to get the largest contract possible down the road (good on him either way). Obviously he is worth more than he makes now, but if he keeps playing well, he might be a prime candidate for being very overpaid in 2025.

I'm not sure a FRP 17-23 does it for me, but as a sweetener in a deal to secure long term talent and pieces, absolutely. This is why I hope Presti is active on the trade market this summer, because his assets and leverage are likely never going to be better than they are now.

Even if his worth is highest today, there’s still value in keeping him for another season if it will allow the team to play better this season .


All the while hoping the rest of the team 3 point shooting increase before we consider trading him away.


He is definitely a release valve for the drive-and-kick style of SGA, JDub and Giddey. I'm not itching to trade him, but because of his age, contract and shooting ability (every team wants shooters), he would make a hell of a sweetener in a trade negotiation.
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Post#1118 » by ThunderBolt » Wed Jun 21, 2023 4:04 pm

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He is on a very good contract for the next two seasons. It kind of depends on whether he is part of the long term plan or not. If we're not planning on paying him after 2025, then looking to deal him now might be the best option.

Presti will also have to be intuitive about how much Joe wants to be here, or whether OKC is just a means to an end for him to get the largest contract possible down the road (good on him either way). Obviously he is worth more than he makes now, but if he keeps playing well, he might be a prime candidate for being very overpaid in 2025.

I'm not sure a FRP 17-23 does it for me, but as a sweetener in a deal to secure long term talent and pieces, absolutely. This is why I hope Presti is active on the trade market this summer, because his assets and leverage are likely never going to be better than they are now.

Even if his worth is highest today, there’s still value in keeping him for another season if it will allow the team to play better this season .


All the while hoping the rest of the team 3 point shooting increase before we consider trading him away.


He is definitely a release valve for the drive-and-kick style of SGA, JDub and Giddey. I'm not itching to trade him, but because of his age, contract and shooting ability (every team wants shooters), he would make a hell of a sweetener in a trade negotiation.

Until Presti proves that he values shooting, I'm somewhat skeptical. We don't draft the same type of player we used to draft but we still seem to underprioritze shooting.
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Post#1119 » by Devilanche » Wed Jun 21, 2023 4:14 pm

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Devilanche wrote:Even if his worth is highest today, there’s still value in keeping him for another season if it will allow the team to play better this season .


All the while hoping the rest of the team 3 point shooting increase before we consider trading him away.


He is definitely a release valve for the drive-and-kick style of SGA, JDub and Giddey. I'm not itching to trade him, but because of his age, contract and shooting ability (every team wants shooters), he would make a hell of a sweetener in a trade negotiation.

Until Presti proves that he values shooting, I'm somewhat skeptical. We don't draft the same type of player we used to draft but we still seem to underprioritze shooting.

You on board with drafting Dick or Hawkins ?
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Post#1120 » by Big nick » Wed Jun 21, 2023 7:13 pm

Dick or hendricks would be great for me.

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