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This game feels really important even though it shouldn't. This could be a big moment, hope it is.
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If the team is half as energized as we are it could be the beginning of a nice run. This is the best I've felt about them so far this year.
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
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bondom34 wrote:This game feels really important even though it shouldn't. This could be a big moment, hope it is.
I share the same feelings about this game. I feel like our offense has finally "clicked" and now understands Billy Donovan's system on a deeper level.
There were times where it just looked so effortless and smooth for our players to operate off the ball and also share the ball.
I felt like we gave better effort on defense tonight but we still have a ways to go.
Overall, the scary part is that it's only 30 games deep and we are winning a lot of games and still have 50 games to not only work on rotations and minutes as well as our players understanding of the offense, but to find a trade partner to move Dion and find another guard to strengthen our bench.
I think after the All-Star break we will really start to see this team truly flourish and come together.
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This is ultimately going to come off as ""annoying guy way too excited about going to one random game in person against a bad team" but here goes. And warning, this will probably be a long post. Anyway, it really is interesting the different things you notice and don't notice when watching a game in person compared to watching a game on TV. I've been to two other thunder games in person but that was back in 2009. My Thunder fandom was in its evolving infancy. Now, in 2015-2016, I'm a full-fledged, probably a little too obsessed Thunder fan. Anyway...
- Obviously you don't really boxscore watch. Sure, I could've pulled my pone out and checked it but then you run the risk of missing something and losing out on the atmosphere/feel of being at a game. If someone had asked me what Durant shot from the floor tonight, never would've guessed he shot as poorly as 6/18. He had a handful of great looks from three that he just didn't hit tonight and a few other shots that did everything but go down. But he had a handful of vintage "only KD" buckets so it just didn't feel like he was shooting that poorly from the field. Don't get me wrong, I knew he was having an off night, but I never imagined it was 6/18 bad.
- I really got a good look at how bad an all-bench+Durant or Westbrook lineup can be defensively, especially when one of Durant or Westbrook (in this case Durant) is putting forth very little effort on defense which was the case with Durant tonight. Durant was embarrassingly bad on defense tonight. His effort was just awful. It wasn't even that he was trying to play good defense and was bad at that, it was simply that he barely tried on defense. Mix that with a lineup of KD-Payne-Morrow-Kanter-Collison and the Bucks exploiting Kanter's porous pick-n-roll defense, and you get the Bucks erasing a 17 point deficit in the third in the blink of an eye. It didn't help that even when we did play good defense on Middleton he still made everything he threw up. I kept periodically checking one of the secondary stats and scores scoreboards and the Bucks were shooting 67% from three at one point in the third quarter and early fourth. We also kept getting caught loafing back on defense after a made basket and the Bucks pushing the ball and getting an easy layup/dunk or drawing a foul.
- As comically terrible as our defense was at times, our offense was equally impressive. As evidenced by the 131 points in a non-OT game, we were scoring at will all game long. The ball was moving and everyone was getting inovlved in a way I haven't seen all season. I don't now how consistent this will be, but for at least one night our offense was an unstoppable force at a level we haven't seen this year.
- When watching on TV it always seemed like the crowd went nuts when Morrow hit a three but getting to experience it live was awesome. That moment in the fourth quarter when he hit back-to-back threes was incredible. The crowd, and including me, went crazy. It was still about a 4 point game at the time, then Morrow hits two threes and our lead is back to 10 and the crowd was going crazy.
- Somehow, I think Waiters is even more infuriating in person. There was one stretch of the game, either in the 2nd or 3rd quarter when we were still behind but had closed the gap and were on the verge of taking the lead and seizing momentum, where Waiters did his best to kill our momentum. I know there was a stretch of four or five possessions in a row where we had the ball and were either down one or down two with a chance to finally get on the high side and Waiters screwed it up with a stupid shot or bad pass. Waiters almost always sucks but he was extra sucky tonight and you could feel him almost single-handily deflate a ready to erupt crowd during that stretch.
- And of course the highlight of the night was Payne's coming out party. Anytime he did anything noteworthy the crowd erupted, especially that stretch in the fourth when the bench regained control of the game. I probably stood up and erupted in a cheer a half dozen or so times in the third and fourth quarter solely because of Payne related things.. It was just awesome to experience live.
Anyway, we had great seats (row A, section 222) and it was a great experience. I just got married back in June and after sitting through OKC's first 31 games with me, my wife has turned into a pretty big Thunder fan and she had a blast. Before tonight she was a big Steven Adams fan, but after tonight she may be an even bigger Payne fan. We'd like to make this a yearly tradition, but with a kid on the way and us both being broke, newlywed school teachers, I'm not sure how feasible it will be, so it might have to be an every other year tradition for awhile.
- Obviously you don't really boxscore watch. Sure, I could've pulled my pone out and checked it but then you run the risk of missing something and losing out on the atmosphere/feel of being at a game. If someone had asked me what Durant shot from the floor tonight, never would've guessed he shot as poorly as 6/18. He had a handful of great looks from three that he just didn't hit tonight and a few other shots that did everything but go down. But he had a handful of vintage "only KD" buckets so it just didn't feel like he was shooting that poorly from the field. Don't get me wrong, I knew he was having an off night, but I never imagined it was 6/18 bad.
- I really got a good look at how bad an all-bench+Durant or Westbrook lineup can be defensively, especially when one of Durant or Westbrook (in this case Durant) is putting forth very little effort on defense which was the case with Durant tonight. Durant was embarrassingly bad on defense tonight. His effort was just awful. It wasn't even that he was trying to play good defense and was bad at that, it was simply that he barely tried on defense. Mix that with a lineup of KD-Payne-Morrow-Kanter-Collison and the Bucks exploiting Kanter's porous pick-n-roll defense, and you get the Bucks erasing a 17 point deficit in the third in the blink of an eye. It didn't help that even when we did play good defense on Middleton he still made everything he threw up. I kept periodically checking one of the secondary stats and scores scoreboards and the Bucks were shooting 67% from three at one point in the third quarter and early fourth. We also kept getting caught loafing back on defense after a made basket and the Bucks pushing the ball and getting an easy layup/dunk or drawing a foul.
- As comically terrible as our defense was at times, our offense was equally impressive. As evidenced by the 131 points in a non-OT game, we were scoring at will all game long. The ball was moving and everyone was getting inovlved in a way I haven't seen all season. I don't now how consistent this will be, but for at least one night our offense was an unstoppable force at a level we haven't seen this year.
- When watching on TV it always seemed like the crowd went nuts when Morrow hit a three but getting to experience it live was awesome. That moment in the fourth quarter when he hit back-to-back threes was incredible. The crowd, and including me, went crazy. It was still about a 4 point game at the time, then Morrow hits two threes and our lead is back to 10 and the crowd was going crazy.
- Somehow, I think Waiters is even more infuriating in person. There was one stretch of the game, either in the 2nd or 3rd quarter when we were still behind but had closed the gap and were on the verge of taking the lead and seizing momentum, where Waiters did his best to kill our momentum. I know there was a stretch of four or five possessions in a row where we had the ball and were either down one or down two with a chance to finally get on the high side and Waiters screwed it up with a stupid shot or bad pass. Waiters almost always sucks but he was extra sucky tonight and you could feel him almost single-handily deflate a ready to erupt crowd during that stretch.
- And of course the highlight of the night was Payne's coming out party. Anytime he did anything noteworthy the crowd erupted, especially that stretch in the fourth when the bench regained control of the game. I probably stood up and erupted in a cheer a half dozen or so times in the third and fourth quarter solely because of Payne related things.. It was just awesome to experience live.
Anyway, we had great seats (row A, section 222) and it was a great experience. I just got married back in June and after sitting through OKC's first 31 games with me, my wife has turned into a pretty big Thunder fan and she had a blast. Before tonight she was a big Steven Adams fan, but after tonight she may be an even bigger Payne fan. We'd like to make this a yearly tradition, but with a kid on the way and us both being broke, newlywed school teachers, I'm not sure how feasible it will be, so it might have to be an every other year tradition for awhile.
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I think that's the big thing, the jolt Billy was talking about. We have something exciting going, and for the first time in almost two years it feels like maybe this is about having fun and playing together more than just winning. It feels like we've gotten a little more tightly wound each year as expectations weighed more and more heavily, between Steven and Cam we have a couple of guys who look like it's all about enjoying the experience and being loose. If Cam hadn't been the one going off today I'd feel pretty poorly about barely getting by MKE, instead I feel like I've got another underdog to cheer for. And with Golden State and San Antonio getting all the love maybe that's what we actually are and how we should behave. For once we aren't the team expected to be there, so let's enjoy the ride a little more and let the results fall where they may.
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
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NaturalThunder wrote:- I really got a good look at how bad an all-bench+Durant or Westbrook lineup can be defensively, especially when one of Durant or Westbrook (in this case Durant) is putting forth very little effort on defense which was the case with Durant tonight. Durant was embarrassingly bad on defense tonight. His effort was just awful. It wasn't even that he was trying to play good defense and was bad at that, it was simply that he barely tried on defense. Mix that with a lineup of KD-Payne-Morrow-Kanter-Collison and the Bucks exploiting Kanter's porous pick-n-roll defense, and you get the Bucks erasing a 17 point deficit in the third in the blink of an eye. It didn't help that even when we did play good defense on Middleton he still made everything he threw up. I kept periodically checking one of the secondary stats and scores scoreboards and the Bucks were shooting 67% from three at one point in the third quarter and early fourth. We also kept getting caught loafing back on defense after a made basket and the Bucks pushing the ball and getting an easy layup/dunk or drawing a foul.
The big part of the run actually came with the starters still in. In one minute they gave up a 9-0 run that cut the lead to 8, then Russ went out and the Bucks would edge closer but not quite get over the hump. The bench ended up holding off their third quarter rally then extending in the 4th. KD was a big reason they got back in it for sure, even in the highlights you can tell he is barely engaged.
Anyway, we had great seats (row A, section 222) and it was a great experience. I just got married back in June and after sitting through OKC's first 31 games with me, my wife has turned into a pretty big Thunder fan and she had a blast. Before tonight she was a big Steven Adams fan, but after tonight she may be an even bigger Payne fan. We'd like to make this a yearly tradition, but with a kid on the way and us both being broke, newlywed school teachers, I'm not sure how feasible it will be, so it might have to be an every other year tradition for awhile.
man, I know exactly how you feel. I'd never been to anything larger than an NAIA basketball game until my then fiancée (now wife) got us tickets for Christmas one year. I was always a HUGE D-Wade fan and got to watch the Heat lose to the Nenad Kristic lead team, since experiencing that energy I haven't even been able to actually root for any other team, I just root against the one I like less

Also, Toby Keith's bar and grill in bricktown has some nice ribs!
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
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Side note, we scored 130 and KD was about 8 points below where he should've been based on his efficiency this season. A normal KD night would've had us pushing 140 

“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
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getrichordie wrote:bondom34 wrote:This game feels really important even though it shouldn't. This could be a big moment, hope it is.
I share the same feelings about this game. I feel like our offense has finally "clicked" and now understands Billy Donovan's system on a deeper level.
There were times where it just looked so effortless and smooth for our players to operate off the ball and also share the ball.
I felt like we gave better effort on defense tonight but we still have a ways to go.
Overall, the scary part is that it's only 30 games deep and we are winning a lot of games and still have 50 games to not only work on rotations and minutes as well as our players understanding of the offense, but to find a trade partner to move Dion and find another guard to strengthen our bench.
I think after the All-Star break we will really start to see this team truly flourish and come together.
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Oh, as a team I didn't get that much. As a player, with Cam I kinda hope it is. If that's true, then as a team it may be big because it solves a big rotation hole. It was a Dec game vs. a mostly bad team, but if it solved that problem, its big.
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Glad you had a great time! Gets me pumped to go to a game, even in Philly to hopefully see them. Would love to get to OKC sometime too, I imagine its like a college football-esque feel.
The only thing I'd say is, nah, Dion is just as infuriating on TV. Wanted to punch him for the FT lane violation. But sounds like a great time, glad you were there for the game Cam had and seeing the team!
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NaturalThunder wrote:This is ultimately going to come off as ""annoying guy way too excited about going to one random game in person against a bad team" but here goes. And warning, this will probably be a long post. Anyway, it really is interesting the different things you notice and don't notice when watching a game in person compared to watching a game on TV.
Nah. Being at a game live is much more exciting in person, but watching the game feels different in person because you are much more invested, financially, physically, mentally, etc.
NaturalThunder wrote:I really got a good look at how bad an all-bench+Durant or Westbrook lineup can be defensively, especially when one of Durant or Westbrook (in this case Durant) is putting forth very little effort on defense which was the case with Durant tonight. Durant was embarrassingly bad on defense tonight. His effort was just awful. It wasn't even that he was trying to play good defense and was bad at that, it was simply that he barely tried on defense. Mix that with a lineup of KD-Payne-Morrow-Kanter-Collison and the Bucks exploiting Kanter's porous pick-n-roll defense, and you get the Bucks erasing a 17 point deficit in the third in the blink of an eye. It didn't help that even when we did play good defense on Middleton he still made everything he threw up. I kept periodically checking one of the secondary stats and scores scoreboards and the Bucks were shooting 67% from three at one point in the third quarter and early fourth. We also kept getting caught loafing back on defense after a made basket and the Bucks pushing the ball and getting an easy layup/dunk or drawing a foul.
Well, if Durant is playing with the second unit, it is because Donovan has kept him in for a while, thus he is tired. Usually, Durant plays for 12,14 minute stretches. While, I'd like to see him give extra effort on defense, I think a lot of his laziness on the defensive end with the second unit can be attributed to fatigue. He does a lot of the work on the basketball floor when he is in the game. Also, I've read some things suggesting that he still isn't at his "peak" conditioning level. It's also a lot harder to guard guys when you have to help on weaker defenders' assignments as well. I'm not sure if that is the defensive strategy or if Durant is just sagging off his guy because he thinks he needs too.
Also, Enes Kanter was a +10 for the game. Enes, for the most part, did his job defensively and definitely did his job offensively. The reason that 17-point lead was cut down was because Donovan waited to put Kanter back in the game. Kanter wasn't in the game for the large majority of the time that our lead was being cut down. It actually started growing again after Donovan finally subbed him in for Adams.
NaturalThunder wrote:When watching on TV it always seemed like the crowd went nuts when Morrow hit a three but getting to experience it live was awesome. That moment in the fourth quarter when he hit back-to-back threes was incredible. The crowd, and including me, went crazy. It was still about a 4 point game at the time, then Morrow hits two threes and our lead is back to 10 and the crowd was going crazy.
Wish I was at the game myself! I bet the crowd was hype and full of electricity (or should I say thunder?

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bondom34 wrote:getrichordie wrote:bondom34 wrote:This game feels really important even though it shouldn't. This could be a big moment, hope it is.
I share the same feelings about this game. I feel like our offense has finally "clicked" and now understands Billy Donovan's system on a deeper level.
There were times where it just looked so effortless and smooth for our players to operate off the ball and also share the ball.
I felt like we gave better effort on defense tonight but we still have a ways to go.
Overall, the scary part is that it's only 30 games deep and we are winning a lot of games and still have 50 games to not only work on rotations and minutes as well as our players understanding of the offense, but to find a trade partner to move Dion and find another guard to strengthen our bench.
I think after the All-Star break we will really start to see this team truly flourish and come together.
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Oh, as a team I didn't get that much. As a player, with Cam I kinda hope it is. If that's true, then as a team it may be big because it solves a big rotation hole. It was a Dec game vs. a mostly bad team, but if it solved that problem, its big.
For sure. I agree. When watching this game, I saw stretches where our guys were just in the zone when it came to passing, making great reads, being selfless, and being aggressive at the right times. It was really exciting to watch.
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getrichordie wrote:NaturalThunder wrote:This is ultimately going to come off as ""annoying guy way too excited about going to one random game in person against a bad team" but here goes. And warning, this will probably be a long post. Anyway, it really is interesting the different things you notice and don't notice when watching a game in person compared to watching a game on TV.
Nah. Being at a game live is much more exciting in person, but watching the game feels different in person because you are much more invested, financially, physically, mentally, etc.NaturalThunder wrote:I really got a good look at how bad an all-bench+Durant or Westbrook lineup can be defensively, especially when one of Durant or Westbrook (in this case Durant) is putting forth very little effort on defense which was the case with Durant tonight. Durant was embarrassingly bad on defense tonight. His effort was just awful. It wasn't even that he was trying to play good defense and was bad at that, it was simply that he barely tried on defense. Mix that with a lineup of KD-Payne-Morrow-Kanter-Collison and the Bucks exploiting Kanter's porous pick-n-roll defense, and you get the Bucks erasing a 17 point deficit in the third in the blink of an eye. It didn't help that even when we did play good defense on Middleton he still made everything he threw up. I kept periodically checking one of the secondary stats and scores scoreboards and the Bucks were shooting 67% from three at one point in the third quarter and early fourth. We also kept getting caught loafing back on defense after a made basket and the Bucks pushing the ball and getting an easy layup/dunk or drawing a foul.
Well, if Durant is playing with the second unit, it is because Donovan has kept him in for a while, thus he is tired. Usually, Durant plays for 12,14 minute stretches. While, I'd like to see him give extra effort on defense, I think a lot of his laziness on the defensive end with the second unit can be attributed to fatigue. He does a lot of the work on the basketball floor when he is in the game. Also, I've read some things suggesting that he still isn't at his "peak" conditioning level. It's also a lot harder to guard guys when you have to help on weaker defenders' assignments as well. I'm not sure if that is the defensive strategy or if Durant is just sagging off his guy because he thinks he needs too.
Also, Enes Kanter was a +10 for the game. Enes, for the most part, did his job defensively and definitely did his job offensively. The reason that 17-point lead was cut down was because Donovan waited to put Kanter back in the game. Kanter wasn't in the game for the large majority of the time that our lead was being cut down. It actually started growing again after Donovan finally subbed him in for Adams.NaturalThunder wrote:When watching on TV it always seemed like the crowd went nuts when Morrow hit a three but getting to experience it live was awesome. That moment in the fourth quarter when he hit back-to-back threes was incredible. The crowd, and including me, went crazy. It was still about a 4 point game at the time, then Morrow hits two threes and our lead is back to 10 and the crowd was going crazy.
Wish I was at the game myself! I bet the crowd was hype and full of electricity (or should I say thunder?). Can't wait to go see a Thunder game!
KD's defense at times was inexcusable, as was Dion's. But wanted to point out, Kanter had a better D rating than Adams for the game, which is shocking.
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bondom34 wrote:getrichordie wrote:NaturalThunder wrote:This is ultimately going to come off as ""annoying guy way too excited about going to one random game in person against a bad team" but here goes. And warning, this will probably be a long post. Anyway, it really is interesting the different things you notice and don't notice when watching a game in person compared to watching a game on TV.
Nah. Being at a game live is much more exciting in person, but watching the game feels different in person because you are much more invested, financially, physically, mentally, etc.NaturalThunder wrote:I really got a good look at how bad an all-bench+Durant or Westbrook lineup can be defensively, especially when one of Durant or Westbrook (in this case Durant) is putting forth very little effort on defense which was the case with Durant tonight. Durant was embarrassingly bad on defense tonight. His effort was just awful. It wasn't even that he was trying to play good defense and was bad at that, it was simply that he barely tried on defense. Mix that with a lineup of KD-Payne-Morrow-Kanter-Collison and the Bucks exploiting Kanter's porous pick-n-roll defense, and you get the Bucks erasing a 17 point deficit in the third in the blink of an eye. It didn't help that even when we did play good defense on Middleton he still made everything he threw up. I kept periodically checking one of the secondary stats and scores scoreboards and the Bucks were shooting 67% from three at one point in the third quarter and early fourth. We also kept getting caught loafing back on defense after a made basket and the Bucks pushing the ball and getting an easy layup/dunk or drawing a foul.
Well, if Durant is playing with the second unit, it is because Donovan has kept him in for a while, thus he is tired. Usually, Durant plays for 12,14 minute stretches. While, I'd like to see him give extra effort on defense, I think a lot of his laziness on the defensive end with the second unit can be attributed to fatigue. He does a lot of the work on the basketball floor when he is in the game. Also, I've read some things suggesting that he still isn't at his "peak" conditioning level. It's also a lot harder to guard guys when you have to help on weaker defenders' assignments as well. I'm not sure if that is the defensive strategy or if Durant is just sagging off his guy because he thinks he needs too.
Also, Enes Kanter was a +10 for the game. Enes, for the most part, did his job defensively and definitely did his job offensively. The reason that 17-point lead was cut down was because Donovan waited to put Kanter back in the game. Kanter wasn't in the game for the large majority of the time that our lead was being cut down. It actually started growing again after Donovan finally subbed him in for Adams.NaturalThunder wrote:When watching on TV it always seemed like the crowd went nuts when Morrow hit a three but getting to experience it live was awesome. That moment in the fourth quarter when he hit back-to-back threes was incredible. The crowd, and including me, went crazy. It was still about a 4 point game at the time, then Morrow hits two threes and our lead is back to 10 and the crowd was going crazy.
Wish I was at the game myself! I bet the crowd was hype and full of electricity (or should I say thunder?). Can't wait to go see a Thunder game!
KD's defense at times was inexcusable, as was Dion's. But wanted to point out, Kanter had a better D rating than Adams for the game, which is shocking.
True. Not arguing with that. Maybe Kevin Durant suffers from "affluenza". By that, I mean, he's had Ibaka to clean up his defensive woes. On the second unit? No one to do that. But still, seriously, as our veteran leader, and if you are a guy who truly wants a 'ship, you have to bring out the D'.

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Is think it's more likely he just had a bad game. He has been solid defensively all season.
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
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getrichordie wrote:bondom34 wrote:getrichordie wrote:
Nah. Being at a game live is much more exciting in person, but watching the game feels different in person because you are much more invested, financially, physically, mentally, etc.
Well, if Durant is playing with the second unit, it is because Donovan has kept him in for a while, thus he is tired. Usually, Durant plays for 12,14 minute stretches. While, I'd like to see him give extra effort on defense, I think a lot of his laziness on the defensive end with the second unit can be attributed to fatigue. He does a lot of the work on the basketball floor when he is in the game. Also, I've read some things suggesting that he still isn't at his "peak" conditioning level. It's also a lot harder to guard guys when you have to help on weaker defenders' assignments as well. I'm not sure if that is the defensive strategy or if Durant is just sagging off his guy because he thinks he needs too.
Also, Enes Kanter was a +10 for the game. Enes, for the most part, did his job defensively and definitely did his job offensively. The reason that 17-point lead was cut down was because Donovan waited to put Kanter back in the game. Kanter wasn't in the game for the large majority of the time that our lead was being cut down. It actually started growing again after Donovan finally subbed him in for Adams.
Wish I was at the game myself! I bet the crowd was hype and full of electricity (or should I say thunder?). Can't wait to go see a Thunder game!
KD's defense at times was inexcusable, as was Dion's. But wanted to point out, Kanter had a better D rating than Adams for the game, which is shocking.
True. Not arguing with that. Maybe Kevin Durant suffers from "affluenza". By that, I mean, he's had Ibaka to clean up his defensive woes. On the second unit? No one to do that. But still, seriously, as our veteran leader, and if you are a guy who truly wants a 'ship, you have to bring out the D'.
Agree, and I understand the reasoning, it was what happened to Russ last year, but KD isn't being asked to do nearly that much. His conditioning still isn't there yet I don't think either.
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spearsy23 wrote:I think it's more likely he just had a bad game. He has been solid defensively all season.
Certainly. And his conditioning will get better as the season goes on. The 'holiday hangover' games have seen Durant be pretty lackadaisical on defense, but of course, we know he is more capable. The Thunder sort of play to their opponent anyway which is terrible, but a lot of good teams make the same mistake.
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I'm posting some stats because I'm bored!
All stats being posted are from the last 10 games (player must have played atleast 8 games).
Points per 100 possessions:
1. 36.5 -- L. James (48.5 FG%)
2. 36.1 -- J. Harden (44.1 FG%)
3. 35.8 -- D. Derozan (49.7 FG%)
4. 35.7 -- K. Thompson (48.1 FG%)
5. 35.5 -- S. Curry (48.4 FG%)
6. 35.0 -- R. Westbrook (45.1 FG%)
7. 34.4 -- C. Anthony (48.2 FG%)
8. 33.8 -- K. Bryant (41.9 FG%)
9. 33.7 -- K. Durant (49.7 FG%)
10. 33.2 -- R. Jackson (43.6 FG%)
11. 32.9 -- C. Villunueva (43.4 FG%)
12. 32.5 -- N. Vuceciv (57.6 FG%)
13. 32.2 -- E. Kanter (62.4 FG%)
14. 32.2 -- C. Bosh (51.7 FG%)
15. 31.9 -- D. Wade (47.5 FG%)
Our new big 3??
LOL
Westbrook is 6th in the league in assists (per 100 possessions), sitting at 11.6, right behind Jack (12.1), Paul (13.8), Rubio (14.5), Rondo (15.5), Wall (16.9).
Out of every forward in the league, Durant is 5th in assists (per 100 possessions), registering 7.7, sitting behind Draymond Green (8.0), Evan Turner (8.3), Nicolas Batum (8.9), and Tyreke Evans (10.4) and is just ahead of LeBron James (7.4).
Serge Ibaka turns in 3.6 blocks (per 100 possessions), which ties (ties Anthony Davis) for 6th best in the league. Henson (8.1), Whiteside (5.9), Bogut (5.3), and Porzingis (4.7) are dominating in this category.
Westbrook registers 3.9 steals (per 100 possessions) which is good for 3rd in the league behind Kawhai Leonard (4.1) and Ricky Rubio (4.8) and just in front of Chris Paul (3.7) and Ronnie Price (3.7).
Out of all guards, Russell Westbrook also registers the 4th best FTA in the league (per 100 possessions), sitting at 10.6, just behind James Harden (11.6), Alec Burks (11.7), and DeMar Derozan (12.9).
Out of all forwards, Kevin Durant registers the 6th best FTA in the league (per 100 pos.), clocking in at 9.5 which is right behind LeBron James (9.8), Andrew Wiggins (10.4), Gordon Hayward (10.7), DeMarcus Cousins (11.5), and Derrick Williams (11.6).
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The Thunder's 3P%, 3PA (last 10 games, per 100):
1. Morrow (42.3)...(10.8)
2. Roberson (40.0)...(2.4)
3. Ibaka (40.0)...(3.1)
4. Durant (30.2)...(7.2)
5. Westbrook (24.2)...(4.8)
6. Augustin (23.1)...(5.8)
BONUS: Payne** (62.5)...(7.9)
**Payne did not play 8 games (just a bonus stat)
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Player Impact Estimator (PIE) for players who average 10 or more minutes:
1. Kanter
2. Leonard
3. Curry
4. James
5. Westbrook
6. Durant
7. Gasol
8. Paul
9. Harden
10. Davis
That's 3 of our guys in the top 10 and Kanter is #1. Using our guys pretty efficiently, I must say.
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I want to put up some more stats on Durant and Westbrook's shooting stats, but I'll wait. I'm tired!

All stats being posted are from the last 10 games (player must have played atleast 8 games).
Points per 100 possessions:
1. 36.5 -- L. James (48.5 FG%)
2. 36.1 -- J. Harden (44.1 FG%)
3. 35.8 -- D. Derozan (49.7 FG%)
4. 35.7 -- K. Thompson (48.1 FG%)
5. 35.5 -- S. Curry (48.4 FG%)
6. 35.0 -- R. Westbrook (45.1 FG%)
7. 34.4 -- C. Anthony (48.2 FG%)
8. 33.8 -- K. Bryant (41.9 FG%)
9. 33.7 -- K. Durant (49.7 FG%)
10. 33.2 -- R. Jackson (43.6 FG%)
11. 32.9 -- C. Villunueva (43.4 FG%)
12. 32.5 -- N. Vuceciv (57.6 FG%)
13. 32.2 -- E. Kanter (62.4 FG%)
14. 32.2 -- C. Bosh (51.7 FG%)
15. 31.9 -- D. Wade (47.5 FG%)
Our new big 3??

Westbrook is 6th in the league in assists (per 100 possessions), sitting at 11.6, right behind Jack (12.1), Paul (13.8), Rubio (14.5), Rondo (15.5), Wall (16.9).
Out of every forward in the league, Durant is 5th in assists (per 100 possessions), registering 7.7, sitting behind Draymond Green (8.0), Evan Turner (8.3), Nicolas Batum (8.9), and Tyreke Evans (10.4) and is just ahead of LeBron James (7.4).
Serge Ibaka turns in 3.6 blocks (per 100 possessions), which ties (ties Anthony Davis) for 6th best in the league. Henson (8.1), Whiteside (5.9), Bogut (5.3), and Porzingis (4.7) are dominating in this category.
Westbrook registers 3.9 steals (per 100 possessions) which is good for 3rd in the league behind Kawhai Leonard (4.1) and Ricky Rubio (4.8) and just in front of Chris Paul (3.7) and Ronnie Price (3.7).
Out of all guards, Russell Westbrook also registers the 4th best FTA in the league (per 100 possessions), sitting at 10.6, just behind James Harden (11.6), Alec Burks (11.7), and DeMar Derozan (12.9).
Out of all forwards, Kevin Durant registers the 6th best FTA in the league (per 100 pos.), clocking in at 9.5 which is right behind LeBron James (9.8), Andrew Wiggins (10.4), Gordon Hayward (10.7), DeMarcus Cousins (11.5), and Derrick Williams (11.6).
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The Thunder's 3P%, 3PA (last 10 games, per 100):
1. Morrow (42.3)...(10.8)
2. Roberson (40.0)...(2.4)
3. Ibaka (40.0)...(3.1)
4. Durant (30.2)...(7.2)
5. Westbrook (24.2)...(4.8)
6. Augustin (23.1)...(5.8)
BONUS: Payne** (62.5)...(7.9)
**Payne did not play 8 games (just a bonus stat)
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Player Impact Estimator (PIE) for players who average 10 or more minutes:
1. Kanter
2. Leonard
3. Curry
4. James
5. Westbrook
6. Durant
7. Gasol
8. Paul
9. Harden
10. Davis
That's 3 of our guys in the top 10 and Kanter is #1. Using our guys pretty efficiently, I must say.
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I want to put up some more stats on Durant and Westbrook's shooting stats, but I'll wait. I'm tired!
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(Kanter) is 4th in the NBA in FG(.576 %)
Also Kanter is #79 in (+/-)
Kanter's PER is #6 behind #1Curry,#2Westbrook,#3Durant,#4Leonard,#5James
Kanter's TS% is #3 behind #1 Curry ,#2 Durant
Also Kanter is #79 in (+/-)
Kanter's PER is #6 behind #1Curry,#2Westbrook,#3Durant,#4Leonard,#5James
Kanter's TS% is #3 behind #1 Curry ,#2 Durant
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SG (UFA) after this season: http://www.spotrac.com/nba/free-agents/ufa/shooting-guard/
OKC's Expirings:
$20,158,622...Durant
$05,138,430...Waiters
$03,750,000...Novak
$03,000,000...Augustin
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$32,047,052
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Total Salary (2016)..: $69,230,714 = *after expirings*
Predicted '16-'17 cap: $89,000,000 (tax= $108,000,000)
Signings:
$22,000,000...Durant...$91,230,714
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Remaining Cap...$16,769,286 ('tax' minus 'salary after durant signing')
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Is that how much we will have to spend next year assuming Durant signs for 1 year/22,000,000? Or are my calculators off?
OKC's Expirings:
$20,158,622...Durant
$05,138,430...Waiters
$03,750,000...Novak
$03,000,000...Augustin
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$32,047,052
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Total Salary (2016)..: $69,230,714 = *after expirings*
Predicted '16-'17 cap: $89,000,000 (tax= $108,000,000)
Signings:
$22,000,000...Durant...$91,230,714
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Remaining Cap...$16,769,286 ('tax' minus 'salary after durant signing')
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Is that how much we will have to spend next year assuming Durant signs for 1 year/22,000,000? Or are my calculators off?
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If Durant re-signs we'll be over the cap. If we renounce Dion then we'll have 10-15 million before the tax kicks in but the MLE is all we'll have available. So basically 5.5 million dollars plus bird rights on DJ and Novak.
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
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