12/7 | G24: Oklahoma City Thunder at Chicago Bulls - 7PM CST

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Player(s) of the Game

Paul George | 19 PTS (6-16 FG, 2-9 3P)
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Jerami Grant | 13 PTS (5-9 FG, 3-4 3P)
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10%
Steven Adams | 21 PTS (9-17 FG), 10 REB
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60%
Dennis Schroder | 19 PTS (7-14 FG)
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10%
Nerlens Noel | 3 BLK
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10%
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10%
 
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Re: 12/7 | G24: Oklahoma City Thunder at Chicago Bulls - 7PM CST 

Post#121 » by slick_watts » Sat Dec 8, 2018 3:40 am

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spearsy23 wrote:Because George couldn't defend Lauri, catch the ball, or hit am open game winner?


george isn't the dude making $200 mil and throwing showboat lobs all over the place and turning it over 10 times. then gets lost on defense for a three almost exactly how he lost e'twuan moore in chicago those years ago.

nobody on this board can say they don't think in the back of their head in those moments how russ is going to lose his man for a three. it happens constantly.

embarrassing.

Remember when harden had 10 turnovers and "it happens"? I 'member


yeah, and it happens to westbrook too. that's not even the concern i have, i only mention it since you seemed to want to compare westbrook's performance in this one to george. it's westbrook getting lost on defense during crucial possessions over and over. we could have won despite westbrook's poor play, but he blew it.
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Post#122 » by getrichordie » Sat Dec 8, 2018 3:41 am

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markennen hit a contested runner in the paint. that was a difficult shot and it was contested. he made a good move to turn into the paint, and adams helped appropriately.

russ completely lost his man watching the ball and his man gets a wide open three. that happens consistently in these situations. how many wide open threes have been buried by the guy russ has been supposed to be guarding to capture leads like this? i can think of 5 off the top of my head. this is a problem.


Not to mention that there’s not many guys who play the 5 who can make a move like that. That’s what makes Lauri valuable.


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So George didn't know markkanen could do a spin move?


The last thing George was thinking about was a 7-footer performing a silky spin move to the rim and finishing with so much touch that you wonder if Kyrie somehow teleported inside Lauri’s body.

Seriously, though. How many 7-footers do you think George has defended that can do that?

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Re: 12/7 | G24: Oklahoma City Thunder at Chicago Bulls - 7PM CST 

Post#123 » by spearsy23 » Sat Dec 8, 2018 3:42 am

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george isn't the dude making $200 mil and throwing showboat lobs all over the place and turning it over 10 times. then gets lost on defense for a three almost exactly how he lost e'twuan moore in chicago those years ago.

nobody on this board can say they don't think in the back of their head in those moments how russ is going to lose his man for a three. it happens constantly.

embarrassing.

Remember when harden had 10 turnovers and "it happens"? I 'member


yeah, and it happens to westbrook too. that's not even the concern i have, i only mention it since you seemed to want to compare westbrook's performance in this one to george. it's westbrook getting lost on defense during crucial possessions over and over. we could have won despite westbrook's poor play, but he blew it.

You mean George blew it, right? Because it was tied when he gave up a layup, and that wide open three would've won it.
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
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Re: 12/7 | G24: Oklahoma City Thunder at Chicago Bulls - 7PM CST 

Post#124 » by slick_watts » Sat Dec 8, 2018 3:43 am

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getrichordie wrote:
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markennen hit a contested runner in the paint. that was a difficult shot and it was contested. he made a good move to turn into the paint, and adams helped appropriately.

russ completely lost his man watching the ball and his man gets a wide open three. that happens consistently in these situations. how many wide open threes have been buried by the guy russ has been supposed to be guarding to capture leads like this? i can think of 5 off the top of my head. this is a problem.


Not to mention that there’s not many guys who play the 5 who can make a move like that. That’s what makes Lauri valuable.


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So George didn't know markkanen could do a spin move?


markkanen made a tough contested shot because he made a great move george did not anticipate. justin holiday made a wide open three because westbrook had his back turned. big difference.
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Re: 12/7 | G24: Oklahoma City Thunder at Chicago Bulls - 7PM CST 

Post#125 » by bondom34 » Sat Dec 8, 2018 3:43 am

Just clarifying, but glad it's better to not help the guy with the clear path to the rim than it is to totally let a 2nd year center blow by you to the rim then miss the go ahead shot.
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Re: 12/7 | G24: Oklahoma City Thunder at Chicago Bulls - 7PM CST 

Post#126 » by ThunderBolt » Sat Dec 8, 2018 3:43 am

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slick_watts wrote:what an embarrassment. this is why all those 'russ is changing' articles are stupid. he is what he is.

Denver lost to Charlotte and toronto lost to Brooklyn. You’re letting your emotions get the best of you.


denver is missing two starters.

but i guess we need all the moral victories we can.

OKC isn’t missing Dre? And Toronto? Bad losses happen. It shouldn’t have even been close.
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Re: 12/7 | G24: Oklahoma City Thunder at Chicago Bulls - 7PM CST 

Post#127 » by ThunderBolt » Sat Dec 8, 2018 3:45 am

How about we discuss that Abrines can’t hit the broad side of a barn or guard his own shadow?
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Re: 12/7 | G24: Oklahoma City Thunder at Chicago Bulls - 7PM CST 

Post#128 » by slick_watts » Sat Dec 8, 2018 3:45 am

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spearsy23 wrote:Remember when harden had 10 turnovers and "it happens"? I 'member


yeah, and it happens to westbrook too. that's not even the concern i have, i only mention it since you seemed to want to compare westbrook's performance in this one to george. it's westbrook getting lost on defense during crucial possessions over and over. we could have won despite westbrook's poor play, but he blew it.

You mean George blew it, right? Because it was tied when he gave up a layup, and that wide open three would've won it.


he missed a wide open three. that's a 38-40% shot for him? he isn't going to make them all. that was an excellent play though that we didn't pay off. the thunder shouldn't have been in that position in the first place. westbrook's gaffe cost them the game on top of his poor play otherwise.

i'm not home right now or i'd post the multiple screenshots i have saved over the years of russ blowing his assignment on defense for game winning threes.
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Re: 12/7 | G24: Oklahoma City Thunder at Chicago Bulls - 7PM CST 

Post#129 » by slick_watts » Sat Dec 8, 2018 3:46 am

every excuse in the universe is made for westbrook. it's unbelievable. he will never learn.
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Re: 12/7 | G24: Oklahoma City Thunder at Chicago Bulls - 7PM CST 

Post#130 » by bondom34 » Sat Dec 8, 2018 3:47 am

So wait now it's not even about this game? What a joke.
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Re: 12/7 | G24: Oklahoma City Thunder at Chicago Bulls - 7PM CST 

Post#131 » by spearsy23 » Sat Dec 8, 2018 3:47 am

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Not to mention that there’s not many guys who play the 5 who can make a move like that. That’s what makes Lauri valuable.


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So George didn't know markkanen could do a spin move?


The last thing George was thinking about was a 7-footer performing a silky spin move to the rim and finishing with so much touch that you wonder if Kyrie somehow teleported inside Lauri’s body.

Seriously, though. How many 7-footers do you think George has defended that can do that?

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Obviously that's the last thing he was thinking, which was pretty stupid of him. Their most dangerous scorer is actually pretty good on offense, shocking.
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
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Re: 12/7 | G24: Oklahoma City Thunder at Chicago Bulls - 7PM CST 

Post#132 » by bondom34 » Sat Dec 8, 2018 3:47 am

Oh ffs I'm feeding into it and it pisses me off and he only does it to piss people off.
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Re: 12/7 | G24: Oklahoma City Thunder at Chicago Bulls - 7PM CST 

Post#133 » by slick_watts » Sat Dec 8, 2018 3:48 am

ThunderBolt wrote:How about we discuss that Abrines can’t hit the broad side of a barn or guard his own shadow?


abrines and patterson mysteriously losing their ability to make threes is just killing the offense. when they're in with russ he's even hesitating to find them. when you feel more confident grant is going to make a corner three than those guys you know we're in trouble.

it really is inexplicable though especially in abrines case. those guys being 38% three point shooters or better is absolutely necessary considering the rest of our roster construction.
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Re: 12/7 | G24: Oklahoma City Thunder at Chicago Bulls - 7PM CST 

Post#134 » by slick_watts » Sat Dec 8, 2018 3:49 am

bondom34 wrote:So wait now it's not even about this game? What a joke.


if it was just once i wouldn't mind, but this is a pattern with westbrook. he just loses his mind on possessions like that.
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Post#135 » by bondom34 » Sat Dec 8, 2018 3:50 am

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bondom34 wrote:So wait now it's not even about this game? What a joke.


if it was just once i wouldn't mind, but this is a pattern with westbrook. he just loses his mind on possessions like that.

He was helping off the man to get the guy driving straight to the rim. He didn't lose his mind at all.

And actually pretty sure the man with the ball was PG's
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Re: 12/7 | G24: Oklahoma City Thunder at Chicago Bulls - 7PM CST 

Post#136 » by spearsy23 » Sat Dec 8, 2018 3:51 am

slick_watts wrote:every excuse in the universe is made for westbrook. it's unbelievable. he will never learn.

Lead the team in points, rebound, assist, and second only to Ferguson in plus/minus. Was he perfect, obviously not even close. Was he the best player on the team tonight? Yep. You've made it your quest to take every bad Westbrook play/game and turn it into some sort of statement while ignoring the failures of others. You're the exact opposite side of the coin you accuse bondom of being.

Does one play win/lose the game?
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Re: 12/7 | G24: Oklahoma City Thunder at Chicago Bulls - 7PM CST 

Post#137 » by bondom34 » Sat Dec 8, 2018 3:52 am

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slick_watts wrote:every excuse in the universe is made for westbrook. it's unbelievable. he will never learn.

Lead the team in points, rebound, assist, and second only to Ferguson in plus/minus. Was he perfect, obviously not even close. Was he the best player on the team tonight? Yep. You've made it your quest to take every bad Westbrook play/game and turn it into some sort of statement while ignoring the failures of others. You're the exact opposite side of the coin you accuse bondom of being.

Does one play win/lose the game?

Just want to say thank you because I can't put up with it tonight. Denver and LA both losing. This stuff is the reason I stepped back a bit.
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Re: 12/7 | G24: Oklahoma City Thunder at Chicago Bulls - 7PM CST 

Post#138 » by Old Man Game » Sat Dec 8, 2018 3:52 am

Of FFS, they need a superhuman effort to beat a woeful nets team and then they lose to a Bulls team that just fired their coach and will certainly be drafting very high this year.

Also I haven't followed this whole discussion but yes, Westbrook constantly loses his man on defense. Its a recurring issue.
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Re: 12/7 | G24: Oklahoma City Thunder at Chicago Bulls - 7PM CST 

Post#139 » by Dn4sty » Sat Dec 8, 2018 3:53 am

I keep saying I’m done with Abrines and then he goes 7-11 from 3. So I get sucked back in. But honestly at this point I think the inconsistency is weighing to far to the “I’m done.”

He simply cannot stay on the court if he plays this poorly.

As bad as OKC played, if they had a consistent shooter or two off the bench, they win this game tonight.
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Re: 12/7 | G24: Oklahoma City Thunder at Chicago Bulls - 7PM CST 

Post#140 » by getrichordie » Sat Dec 8, 2018 3:57 am

spearsy23 wrote:
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spearsy23 wrote:So George didn't know markkanen could do a spin move?


The last thing George was thinking about was a 7-footer performing a silky spin move to the rim and finishing with so much touch that you wonder if Kyrie somehow teleported inside Lauri’s body.

Seriously, though. How many 7-footers do you think George has defended that can do that?

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Obviously that's the last thing he was thinking, which was pretty stupid of him. Their most dangerous scorer is actually pretty good on offense, shocking.


Um... I’m agreeing with you...


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