2017 OKC Thunder Trade Discussion

getrichordie · Post #141 » by **getrichordie** » Sun Jan 29, 2017 5:56 pm

Anyway we can land Kanter's clone, Willy Hernangomez?

spearsy23 · Post #142 » by **spearsy23** » Sun Jan 29, 2017 9:41 pm

getrichordie wrote:
Another year in Billy's system and I think Waiters would have improved.

Hope springs eternal...

Pillendreher · Post #143 » by **Pillendreher** » Sun Jan 29, 2017 9:48 pm

Shooting. Just grab any shooter out there.

hardenASG13 · Post #144 » by **hardenASG13** » Sun Jan 29, 2017 9:55 pm

Pillendreher wrote:Shooting. Just grab any shooter out there.

Nah man they have robes! He is arguably a 2nd team all nba defender! He can't hit the rim on a jumpshot like every other nba wing, but he holds guys that normally average 22-30 to 4 points below their average and makes them shoot slightly lower percentages! All the advanced stats say he is way more valuable than a competant scorer, so I'm told.....smh

Post #145 » by **bondom34** » Sun Jan 29, 2017 10:48 pm

Sleestak?

spearsy23 · Post #146 » by **spearsy23** » Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:32 am

Robes is a great player in the right situation. This is not the right situation. It's not his fault, but what he brings is just less necessary than what a competent offensive player would bring. For what it's worth huestis is shooting 36% from three on over 5 attempts per game. I know he's not as good as robes, but Would it really hurt to try him out while enes is gone? If it keeps singler from playing then it's an automatic plus.

Post #147 » by **ThunderBolt** » Mon Jan 30, 2017 2:07 am

Interesting that on the Bucs board there is a pretty long thread about trading Jabari Parker. Out of curiousity I clicked on it and they were discussing Parker for Adams. Most weren't too enthused with the idea. I don't think Presti would do the trade either. Any thoughts about it?

Osirus89 · Post #148 » by **Osirus89** » Mon Jan 30, 2017 2:49 am

Knrstz wrote:Interesting that on the Bucs board there is a pretty long thread about trading Jabari Parker. Out of curiousity I clicked on it and they were discussing Parker for Adams. Most weren't too enthused with the idea. I don't think Presti would do the trade either. Any thoughts about it?

No way no how on Steven. He is far too valuable and trading him for Jabari would just mean we don't have a center. I wouldn't hang up the phone if it was between Domantas and him. I like Domas a lot, but jabari is an entirely different level as a prospect. He could be a star some day. Kanter of course would be free to go for Parker as well.

Are things bad in Milwaukee or something ? Wonder why they want to trade Jabari now that they have him and Giannis.

yanuary wrote:Hello Thunder fans.
Would you trade TPE and future 2nd for Tarik Black after Kanter INJ?

We would have to waive a player, but thats not too bad. Kyle Singler needs to pack his bags.

Post #149 » by **ThunderBolt** » Mon Jan 30, 2017 2:57 am

Apparently Parker is pretty bad defensively. With Middleton returning I think they are looking to balance their roster and build around Antetokounmpo.

spearsy23 · Post #150 » by **spearsy23** » Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:00 am

Knrstz wrote:Interesting that on the Bucs board there is a pretty long thread about trading Jabari Parker. Out of curiousity I clicked on it and they were discussing Parker for Adams. Most weren't too enthused with the idea. I don't think Presti would do the trade either. Any thoughts about it?

I'd help Steven pack. As much as I love the guy you don't pass up prime Melo for prime Tyson chandler. And a starting lineup of Russ/Robes/jabari/domas/Kanter may not the best out there but it's got more upside than our current team by a mile.

Post #151 » by **ThunderBolt** » Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:07 am

I haven't seen Parker play. However with the abundance of bigs out there, if the deal could be had, it would be worth looking in to.

Osirus89 · Post #152 » by **Osirus89** » Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:28 am

spearsy23 wrote:
Knrstz wrote:Interesting that on the Bucs board there is a pretty long thread about trading Jabari Parker. Out of curiousity I clicked on it and they were discussing Parker for Adams. Most weren't too enthused with the idea. I don't think Presti would do the trade either. Any thoughts about it?

I'd help Steven pack. As much as I love the guy you don't pass up prime Melo for prime Tyson chandler. And a starting lineup of Russ/Robes/jabari/domas/Kanter may not the best out there but it's got more upside than our current team by a mile.

Can Jabari play the 3? If he can be a wing I would change my opinion, but it seems like Milwaukee uses him mostly at the 4.

spearsy23 · Post #153 » by **spearsy23** » Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:34 am

Osirus89 wrote:
spearsy23 wrote:
Knrstz wrote:Interesting that on the Bucs board there is a pretty long thread about trading Jabari Parker. Out of curiousity I clicked on it and they were discussing Parker for Adams. Most weren't too enthused with the idea. I don't think Presti would do the trade either. Any thoughts about it?

I'd help Steven pack. As much as I love the guy you don't pass up prime Melo for prime Tyson chandler. And a starting lineup of Russ/Robes/jabari/domas/Kanter may not the best out there but it's got more upside than our current team by a mile.

Can Jabari play the 3? If he can be a wing I would change my opinion, but it seems like Milwaukee uses him mostly at the 4.

He really should be a 3 IMO, but giannis just kinda plays everything so it doesn't really matter where they stick guys. From what bucks fans have said he actually is better defending man to man on the perimeter (though still not good), and he has the range and skills to be a three offensively. I think that's actually what he was considered coming out of college.

Post #154 » by **bondom34** » Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:59 am

I think I miss something w/ Parker. I don't see Melo, or even a potential star at all. I don't know if I see a really good player even if you think Chandler is Adams's peak. I wouldn't.

getrichordie · Post #155 » by **getrichordie** » Mon Jan 30, 2017 4:09 am

bondom34 wrote:I think I miss something w/ Parker. I don't see Melo, or even a potential star at all. I don't know if I see a really good player even if you think Chandler is Adams's peak. I wouldn't.

I really do think you miss something. Parker is 21 and averaging 20 PPG. What other < 21 year olds have averaged that? Just curious as to who is on that list.

Post #156 » by **bondom34** » Mon Jan 30, 2017 4:19 am

getrichordie wrote:
bondom34 wrote:I think I miss something w/ Parker. I don't see Melo, or even a potential star at all. I don't know if I see a really good player even if you think Chandler is Adams's peak. I wouldn't.

I really do think you miss something. Parker is 21 and averaging 20 PPG. What other < 21 year olds have averaged that? Just curious as to who is on that list.

Is PPG the measure of who's a good player? Also, Rudy Gay and Tyreke Evans are on that list.

Post #157 » by **bondom34** » Mon Jan 30, 2017 4:24 am

Honestly at this point I don't expect a move. If Presti does something and I actually like it I'd be totally amazed. Kanter's dumbass took himself off the market.

spearsy23 · Post #158 » by **spearsy23** » Mon Jan 30, 2017 4:26 am

bondom34 wrote:
getrichordie wrote:
bondom34 wrote:I think I miss something w/ Parker. I don't see Melo, or even a potential star at all. I don't know if I see a really good player even if you think Chandler is Adams's peak. I wouldn't.

I really do think you miss something. Parker is 21 and averaging 20 PPG. What other < 21 year olds have averaged that? Just curious as to who is on that list.

Is PPG the measure of who's a good player? Also, Rudy Gay and Tyreke Evans are on that list.

Look at parkers stats over his first few (really only been two) seasons vs Melo's. They're remarkably similar.

Post #159 » by **bondom34** » Mon Jan 30, 2017 4:34 am

spearsy23 wrote:
bondom34 wrote:
getrichordie wrote:
I really do think you miss something. Parker is 21 and averaging 20 PPG. What other < 21 year olds have averaged that? Just curious as to who is on that list.

Is PPG the measure of who's a good player? Also, Rudy Gay and Tyreke Evans are on that list.

Look at parkers stats over his first few (really only been two) seasons vs Melo's. They're remarkably similar.

Melo was at like 2X the scoring on higher usage with a way higher BPM. He also has a much higher assist rate, which is kinda crazy.

spearsy23 · Post #160 » by **spearsy23** » Mon Jan 30, 2017 4:49 am

bondom34 wrote:
spearsy23 wrote:
bondom34 wrote:Is PPG the measure of who's a good player? Also, Rudy Gay and Tyreke Evans are on that list.

Look at parkers stats over his first few (really only been two) seasons vs Melo's. They're remarkably similar.

Melo was at like 2X the scoring on higher usage with a way higher BPM. He also has a much higher assist rate, which is kinda crazy.

Two times the scoring? He averaged 6 more points on 7% higher usage and 3 more shots per. Ts% basically identical. The draw rate is really the only difference. If jabari learns to use his body like Melo to draw fouls then there's nothing separating them.

Their assist percentage is virtually the same? 14.2 vs 14.3

BPM is the only real difference, but jabari spent a year on the sideline so I'm willing to give him that year to catch up.