12/23 | G32: Minnesota Timberwolves at Oklahoma City Thunder - 7PM CST

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Player(s) of the Game

Paul George | 31 PTS (11-24 FG, 3-6 3P), 11 REB
3
23%
Jerami Grant | 14 PTS (6-10 FG), 7 REB
1
8%
Steven Adams | 12 PTS (6-10 FG)
1
8%
Russell Westbrook | 23 PTS (10-19 FG), 11 REB, 10 AST
5
38%
Nerlens Noel | 5 REB, 2 AST, 2 BLK
0
No votes
Patrick Patterson | 6 PTS (2-2 3P)
2
15%
Other (specify below)
1
8%
 
Total votes: 13

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Re: 12/23 | G32: Minnesota Timberwolves at Oklahoma City Thunder - 7PM CST 

Post#141 » by Dn4sty » Mon Dec 24, 2018 4:18 am

Lalouie wrote:i couldn't watch the game of course...
why was schroder not in the game in the end and only got in because westy fouled out??


Schroder sucked tonight. He didn’t deserve any minutes tonight.
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Re: 12/23 | G32: Minnesota Timberwolves at Oklahoma City Thunder - 7PM CST 

Post#142 » by slick_watts » Mon Dec 24, 2018 4:19 am

bondom34 wrote:
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bondom34 wrote:It never was for one shot. Hes consistently failed at his single job


so you're venting that a guy who has been decent at these things for awhile just hasn't been effective at it this season so far? am i reading this correctly? :wink:

I'd rather have Schroder shoot that. I'd rather George, and honestly feel just as good if Westbrook did. Get Brewer back at this point.


you are overreacting. you'd rather schroder shoot a wide open three than abrines? are you high? you just admitted you think abrines is a 35% three point shooter, which is better than schroder.
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Re: 12/23 | G32: Minnesota Timberwolves at Oklahoma City Thunder - 7PM CST 

Post#143 » by bondom34 » Mon Dec 24, 2018 4:20 am

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so you're venting that a guy who has been decent at these things for awhile just hasn't been effective at it this season so far? am i reading this correctly? :wink:

I'd rather have Schroder shoot that. I'd rather George, and honestly feel just as good if Westbrook did. Get Brewer back at this point.


you are overreacting. you'd rather schroder shoot a wide open three than abrines? are you high? you just admitted you think abrines is a 35% three point shooter, which is better than schroder.

I think he could be. He has not been, and was 1-5 before that. Hes literally not an nba player
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Re: 12/23 | G32: Minnesota Timberwolves at Oklahoma City Thunder - 7PM CST 

Post#144 » by NaturalThunder » Mon Dec 24, 2018 4:21 am

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bad relative to what? i don't think we have any better options on the roster, do we?

You keep moving the goalposts to the point where you don't have to admit you're wrong.

No, we don't have any better 3P options on the roster. Everyone else's point this whole time has been that you cannot play Abrines if he's shooting this poorly from the 3P line (33% over, roughly, the last half of the season) because he's bad at everything else. We've reached a point where we might as well try TLC or Burton (as long as we have him).


we're really advocating tlc or burton over abrines? lol. come on. take a nap.

At this point?!?! Absolutely!!

Abrines has shot 33% from three over the last half of the season...only 26% if you remove the one 7/11 game against a bad Hawks team 12 games ago. Abrines is bad (if not terrible) at everything else. So yes, at this point, it's not nonsensical to advocate for TLC or Burton over Abrines. Abrines is only good at one thing and for about half of the season he's sucked at it.
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Re: 12/23 | G32: Minnesota Timberwolves at Oklahoma City Thunder - 7PM CST 

Post#145 » by slick_watts » Mon Dec 24, 2018 4:22 am

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NaturalThunder wrote:Leave it to you to find a way to blame this on Russ. The sequence/play I was talking about ended in a well-contested 3 made by Saric, but you'll look for anything to place blame on Russ.

I'm not sure we're talking about the same play anyway. The one I'm talking about, the one that turned our 110-108 lead into a 111-110 deficit, we deflected a pass a the beginning of the possession, then we lost KAT who slipped to the basket and had a great look at the rim that was swatted by Grant who recovered nicely; and then it ended in Saric making a well-contested three to beat the shot clock.


i know the play you are talking about but i do not think that three was well contested. it was bad luck anyway. russ just got beat, like he usually does, by a role player he's supposed to be hiding on. like he got beat by crowder against utah.


I'm pretty sure this didn't happen. Also, the Crowder play (as was pointed out to you) happened because Russ had to go down and get a body on Gobert, which left Crowder open to get the rebound. Not really his fault...


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Post#146 » by NaturalThunder » Mon Dec 24, 2018 4:23 am

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i know the play you are talking about but i do not think that three was well contested. it was bad luck anyway. russ just got beat, like he usually does, by a role player he's supposed to be hiding on. like he got beat by crowder against utah.


I'm pretty sure this didn't happen. Also, the Crowder play (as was pointed out to you) happened because Russ had to go down and get a body on Gobert, which left Crowder open to get the rebound. Not really his fault...


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Not the play I was ever talking about.
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Re: 12/23 | G32: Minnesota Timberwolves at Oklahoma City Thunder - 7PM CST 

Post#147 » by slick_watts » Mon Dec 24, 2018 4:24 am

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bondom34 wrote:I'd rather have Schroder shoot that. I'd rather George, and honestly feel just as good if Westbrook did. Get Brewer back at this point.


you are overreacting. you'd rather schroder shoot a wide open three than abrines? are you high? you just admitted you think abrines is a 35% three point shooter, which is better than schroder.

I think he could be. He has not been, and was 1-5 before that. Hes literally not an nba player


1-5 before that? hot hand theory? get brewer back at this point? this is bad, dom. you can't believe all this lol.
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Post#148 » by ThunderBolt » Mon Dec 24, 2018 4:24 am

Did anyone just see Luka?!
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Post#149 » by slick_watts » Mon Dec 24, 2018 4:25 am

NaturalThunder wrote:Not the play I was ever talking about.


it's the play i was talking about. idc about the play you were talking about, tbh. that was just bad luck mostly.
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Re: 12/23 | G32: Minnesota Timberwolves at Oklahoma City Thunder - 7PM CST 

Post#150 » by bondom34 » Mon Dec 24, 2018 4:31 am

slick_watts wrote:
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you are overreacting. you'd rather schroder shoot a wide open three than abrines? are you high? you just admitted you think abrines is a 35% three point shooter, which is better than schroder.

I think he could be. He has not been, and was 1-5 before that. Hes literally not an nba player


1-5 before that? hot hand theory? get brewer back at this point? this is bad, dom. you can't believe all this lol.

I do believe that Abrines is useless. I do believe they can find a player for a minimum contract who could replace what he does. it's not 1-5 tonight, it's not missing 2 of the same shot in the same situation, it's being a bad shooter this year who's been a slightly above average career shooter on relatively low volume who does absolutely nothing else at an nba level.

He's at this point near Patterson level useless and quickly approaching it.
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Re: 12/23 | G32: Minnesota Timberwolves at Oklahoma City Thunder - 7PM CST 

Post#151 » by bondom34 » Mon Dec 24, 2018 4:32 am

NaturalThunder wrote:
slick_watts wrote:
berlioz wrote:
I'm pretty sure this didn't happen. Also, the Crowder play (as was pointed out to you) happened because Russ had to go down and get a body on Gobert, which left Crowder open to get the rebound. Not really his fault...


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Not the play I was ever talking about.

And it was Russ preventing KAT from waltzing to the rim. So don't know
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Post#152 » by NaturalThunder » Mon Dec 24, 2018 4:34 am

slick_watts wrote:
NaturalThunder wrote:Not the play I was ever talking about.


it's the play i was talking about. idc about the play you were talking about, tbh. that was just bad luck mostly.

:lol:

You're as bad as my father-in-law (who never admits he's wrong and who has outright admitted before he never thinks he's wrong).

When talking about defensive plays/breakdowns, you quoted a post of mine after I talked about the "play I WAS talking about". But now you just don't care because the play you were talking about all along was completely different than the play I was talking about and you wrongly quoted me aobut it because you had a different play in mind all along.

People like you would be a lot better off it they just admitted they were wrong every once in awhile.
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Re: 12/23 | G32: Minnesota Timberwolves at Oklahoma City Thunder - 7PM CST 

Post#153 » by slick_watts » Mon Dec 24, 2018 4:34 am

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bondom34 wrote:I think he could be. He has not been, and was 1-5 before that. Hes literally not an nba player


1-5 before that? hot hand theory? get brewer back at this point? this is bad, dom. you can't believe all this lol.

I do believe that Abrines is useless. I do believe they can find a player for a minimum contract who could replace what he does. it's not 1-5 tonight, it's not missing 2 of the same shot in the same situation, it's being a bad shooter this year who's been a slightly above average career shooter on relatively low volume who does absolutely nothing else at an nba level.

He's at this point near Patterson level useless and quickly approaching it.


i mean that's all fine but i don't see how any of that justifies your commentary on the shot quality we got on the last possession. schroder? really? that makes no sense.

abrines deserves criticism for his play this year just like patterson and just like westbrook. these guys are all stinking up the joint in various ways relative to reasonable expectation. i'm with you that abrines should be replaced if a better player can be acquired (i.e. not corey brewer lol). i'm not with you that all of this somehow magically means we ignore percentages. schroder taking a wide open shot over abrines is patently absurd.
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Re: 12/23 | G32: Minnesota Timberwolves at Oklahoma City Thunder - 7PM CST 

Post#154 » by bondom34 » Mon Dec 24, 2018 4:35 am

slick_watts wrote:
bondom34 wrote:
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1-5 before that? hot hand theory? get brewer back at this point? this is bad, dom. you can't believe all this lol.

I do believe that Abrines is useless. I do believe they can find a player for a minimum contract who could replace what he does. it's not 1-5 tonight, it's not missing 2 of the same shot in the same situation, it's being a bad shooter this year who's been a slightly above average career shooter on relatively low volume who does absolutely nothing else at an nba level.

He's at this point near Patterson level useless and quickly approaching it.


i mean that's all fine but i don't see how any of that justifies your commentary on the shot quality we got on the last possession. schroder? really? that makes no sense.

abrines deserves criticism for his play this year just like patterson and just like westbrook. these guys are all stinking up the joint in various ways relative to reasonable expectation. i'm with you that abrines should be replaced if a better player can be acquired (i.e. not corey brewer lol). i'm not with you that all of this somehow magically means we ignore percentages. schroder taking a wide open shot over abrines is patently absurd.

I never criticized the shot quality

I criticized the shooter

And lol at dragging Westbrook into it. You're better than that :wink:
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Post#155 » by slick_watts » Mon Dec 24, 2018 4:35 am

bondom34 wrote:And it was Russ preventing KAT from waltzing to the rim. So don't know


adams was fine there. russ is bouncing around like a mad man as usual.
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Post#156 » by bondom34 » Mon Dec 24, 2018 4:37 am

slick_watts wrote:
bondom34 wrote:And it was Russ preventing KAT from waltzing to the rim. So don't know


adams was fine there. russ is bouncing around like a mad man as usual.

You realize when you literally post the video we all have proof right?

Like Adams is half way down the bench helping to Schroder's man, it's right there. He's 10 feet away. You can't just pull something out of nowhere when you post visuals
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Re: 12/23 | G32: Minnesota Timberwolves at Oklahoma City Thunder - 7PM CST 

Post#157 » by slick_watts » Mon Dec 24, 2018 4:37 am

bondom34 wrote:I never criticized the shot quality

I criticized the shooter

And lol at dragging Westbrook into it. You're better than that :wink:


you advocate a worse shooter attempting a shot for no reason other than feelings, i guess. because there's no other reason i can think of. i share many of your concerns about abrines. i think there's an overreaction in particular to this game, and especially that final shot.
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Re: 12/23 | G32: Minnesota Timberwolves at Oklahoma City Thunder - 7PM CST 

Post#158 » by bondom34 » Mon Dec 24, 2018 4:38 am

slick_watts wrote:
bondom34 wrote:I never criticized the shot quality

I criticized the shooter

And lol at dragging Westbrook into it. You're better than that :wink:


you advocate a worse shooter attempting a shot for no reason other than feelings, i guess. because there's no other reason i can think of. i share many of your concerns about abrines. i think there's an overreaction in particular to this game, and especially that final shot.

My reaction is not only to this game. I honestly dont know if i can type it more
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Re: 12/23 | G32: Minnesota Timberwolves at Oklahoma City Thunder - 7PM CST 

Post#159 » by slick_watts » Mon Dec 24, 2018 4:39 am

bondom34 wrote:
slick_watts wrote:
bondom34 wrote:And it was Russ preventing KAT from waltzing to the rim. So don't know


adams was fine there. russ is bouncing around like a mad man as usual.

You realize when you literally post the video we all have proof right?

Like Adams is half way down the bench helping to Schroder's man, it's right there. He's 10 feet away. You can't just pull something out of nowhere when you post visuals


he's 10 feet away from towns? lol. ok dom. i see westbrook digging at towns, swiping for the ball unnecessarily, jumping at his man for no reason, and getting beat.
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Re: 12/23 | G32: Minnesota Timberwolves at Oklahoma City Thunder - 7PM CST 

Post#160 » by Dn4sty » Mon Dec 24, 2018 4:40 am

bondom34 wrote:
slick_watts wrote:
bondom34 wrote:I think he could be. He has not been, and was 1-5 before that. Hes literally not an nba player


1-5 before that? hot hand theory? get brewer back at this point? this is bad, dom. you can't believe all this lol.

I do believe that Abrines is useless. I do believe they can find a player for a minimum contract who could replace what he does. it's not 1-5 tonight, it's not missing 2 of the same shot in the same situation, it's being a bad shooter this year who's been a slightly above average career shooter on relatively low volume who does absolutely nothing else at an nba level.

He's at this point near Patterson level useless and quickly approaching it.


I really like the play, yet why is it necessary to run that for Abrines when you a need a two. I’ve gotta believe they’ve got something in the bad of tricks that would set up something going to the rim with a chance of getting fouled

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