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Post#1501 » by Kizz Fastfists » Sun Jun 15, 2025 1:43 am

Devilanche wrote:If we don’t have 9 other players we can rely on in the playoffs , we aren’t trading Dort .


That completely depends on the return. I would trade Caruso over Dort, if I must move one, due to the age difference and Caruso being close to a drop off point. If you are getting a player that improves your top 3 then I'd probably move Dort as he is probably gone after next year anyway due to extensions and cap issues or they trade Caruso at that point. If it is just for a high end role player then no. If you tell me I can have Sabonis for Dort, Wiggins and Joe I take it. Sabonis gives you everything you are missing. Another big man, another playmaker, etc. You can run two of Sabonis, Chet and IH all game long. It would be a thing of beauty. If you tell me Dort is required to add Cam Johnson I'm laughing as I hang up the phone. Yes, I still consider trading Sabonis when it was time to start the rebuild one of the dumbest things Presti has done.
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Post#1502 » by Devilanche » Sun Jun 15, 2025 2:39 am

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Devilanche wrote:If we don’t have 9 other players we can rely on in the playoffs , we aren’t trading Dort .


That completely depends on the return. I would trade Caruso over Dort, if I must move one, due to the age difference and Caruso being close to a drop off point. If you are getting a player that improves your top 3 then I'd probably move Dort as he is probably gone after next year anyway due to extensions and cap issues or they trade Caruso at that point. If it is just for a high end role player then no. If you tell me I can have Sabonis for Dort, Wiggins and Joe I take it. Sabonis gives you everything you are missing. Another big man, another playmaker, etc. You can run two of Sabonis, Chet and IH all game long. It would be a thing of beauty. If you tell me Dort is required to add Cam Johnson I'm laughing as I hang up the phone. Yes, I still consider trading Sabonis when it was time to start the rebuild one of the dumbest things Presti has done.


1) I think next season Caruso is still effective .
2) if I have to move one it’s better to be for a huge upgrade somewhere .
3) if I’m moving for sabonis it’s probably around IH as salary matching . I don’t want too much salary in my bigs and any big movement have to be for at least a 2 season window .
4) window for moving for cam Johnson probably closed. Nets probably want build a team this season and any salary matching for me is Joe / Dieng / Dillon
5) I don’t think sabonis become current sabonis on the OKC that he played for.
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Post#1503 » by Kizz Fastfists » Sun Jun 15, 2025 3:21 am

Devilanche wrote:5) I don’t think sabonis become current sabonis on the OKC that he played for.



I disagree, but I'm also not going to rehash that entire era. If we assume Russ gets traded to LAC, who wanted him, after KD leaves OKC still gets SGA and a huge pick package. You would have a better argument that without the CP3 season that SGA never becomes the player he is. You could convince me of that a lot easier than saying Sabonis doesn't become who he is.
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Post#1504 » by ThunderBolt » Sun Jun 15, 2025 3:39 am

Devilanche wrote:Positive vibes -

I think Daig is really the best coach we had since we came to Oklahoma. He’s making adjustments and changes that the other 2 probably wouldnt .

Team - I get that we are young and not yet fully ready. But would have been nice if one of them start showing growth game by game . That could be enough for us to win 2 of the next 3 games .

Appreciate that they do have stretches or game that they perform but just want to see it more and more consistently.


This playoffs has been good for us.

Presti - I think he did a good to great job so far but I think we definitely need a trade or an MLE signing of a proven vet . Having just Caruso as a vet isn’t enough. IH himself is not that experienced in the playoffs.

Joe should be on the trading block. Dieng should be gone , I’m indifferent about Dillon. I want keep Kenrich and hope he plays more for the rest of the playoff . He’s another steadying vet we have and we need as much as those in the rotation.

Just curious why you are only indifferent about Dillon. He’s shown nothing other than how to have an epic dad bod as a rookie.
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Post#1505 » by Devilanche » Sun Jun 15, 2025 3:57 am

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Devilanche wrote:5) I don’t think sabonis become current sabonis on the OKC that he played for.



I disagree, but I'm also not going to rehash that entire era. If we assume Russ gets traded to LAC, who wanted him, after KD leaves OKC still gets SGA and a huge pick package. You would have a better argument that without the CP3 season that SGA never becomes the player he is. You could convince me of that a lot easier than saying Sabonis doesn't become who he is.

I just didn’t see it likely we would run more and more plays around sabonis . But that’s a me issue.
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Post#1506 » by Devilanche » Sun Jun 15, 2025 3:58 am

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Devilanche wrote:Positive vibes -

I think Daig is really the best coach we had since we came to Oklahoma. He’s making adjustments and changes that the other 2 probably wouldnt .

Team - I get that we are young and not yet fully ready. But would have been nice if one of them start showing growth game by game . That could be enough for us to win 2 of the next 3 games .

Appreciate that they do have stretches or game that they perform but just want to see it more and more consistently.


This playoffs has been good for us.

Presti - I think he did a good to great job so far but I think we definitely need a trade or an MLE signing of a proven vet . Having just Caruso as a vet isn’t enough. IH himself is not that experienced in the playoffs.

Joe should be on the trading block. Dieng should be gone , I’m indifferent about Dillon. I want keep Kenrich and hope he plays more for the rest of the playoff . He’s another steadying vet we have and we need as much as those in the rotation.

Just curious why you are only indifferent about Dillon. He’s shown nothing other than how to have an epic dad bod as a rookie.

As an older rookie I would have hoped he would have contributed immediately but not caring one way or the other if he didn’t. Our regular season roster is really hard to break into. Probably giving him another season but if he’s traded , I don’t see it as a loss either way.
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Post#1507 » by Zagor » Sun Jun 15, 2025 11:54 am

One thing I don't understand. When TJ McConnell is on the floor, why are we not attacking him?
Whoever he guards should set screen for Shai or JDub and then McConnell should be burned.

We can't allow them to constantly attack Joe whenever he is on the court without equally strong response on TJ McConnell.
That little guy is killing us and that is weird.

I hope Cason or Wiggins will have big shooting night in game 5. It would be so much easier for us then.

Wear down Siakam, throw bodies on him. Attack him on offensive glass.
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Post#1508 » by bbms » Sun Jun 15, 2025 12:25 pm

sabonis? big no. he doesn't fit the defense. thunder need to add new stuff offensively but sabonis is definitely not it - thunder don't need a full paradigm shift.

trading caruso away? he's the thunder's second best player what the **** are you guys thinking?

the roster as is improves daily as the games go by (sucks that indiana seems to improve daily too).

thunder has unlocked shai's final form last game. he was much more active as a screener and pop man. that's great stuff. just need more people to operate that as a handler. i want to see cason be used on ball in those sets. a guy like cason operates that there's no place for anyone to hide defensively and sga can just go switch hunting like jokic and become de facto in joker's realm offensively.

now that they are overcoming the growing pains a huge blow up by adding a complete stranger (sabonis) that couldn't fit the thunder's defense worse?
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Post#1509 » by Dadouv47 » Sun Jun 15, 2025 12:42 pm

OKC needs Derrick White and a cheap back up PG just in case Ajay/Topic can't do the job next season
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Post#1510 » by bbms » Sun Jun 15, 2025 12:48 pm

Dadouv47 wrote:OKC needs Derrick White and a cheap back up PG just in case Ajay/Topic can't do the job next season


now that the reality of the playoffs screamed the necessity of more people pging this offense i expect everybody keying in to earn this job this offseason.

also cmb and nolan traore are nice fits.
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Post#1511 » by Dadouv47 » Sun Jun 15, 2025 12:51 pm

All I care about are the finals anyway but hey let's talk a bit about the offseason so it will feel like we aren't stressed enough about the outcome of this series :lol:
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Post#1512 » by Dadouv47 » Sun Jun 15, 2025 12:54 pm

I have no clue what will happen in game 5 but I will be surprised if this isn't the loudest game in the arena since 2012 (or 2011?)
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Post#1513 » by Kizz Fastfists » Sun Jun 15, 2025 2:07 pm

Dadouv47 wrote:All I care about are the finals anyway but hey let's talk a bit about the offseason so it will feel like we aren't stressed enough about the outcome of this series :lol:


The draft is in 10 days. I'd assume that Presti is spending more time prepping for the draft right now than worrying about the Finals. The coaching staff and pro scouts should be looking for adjustments. Please for the love of all that is good and right in the world give Jaylin some run in game 5!!! If we can't talk about the off-season 10 days before the draft when can we? Not until next Monday so only two days before the draft?


P.S. I know there is nothing good or right in the world, but I still want Jaylin to get some run with Chet/IH to not give up the size advantage they have been.
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Post#1514 » by spearsy23 » Sun Jun 15, 2025 3:20 pm

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Post#1515 » by Devilanche » Sun Jun 15, 2025 3:36 pm

bbms wrote:sabonis? big no. he doesn't fit the defense. thunder need to add new stuff offensively but sabonis is definitely not it - thunder don't need a full paradigm shift.

trading caruso away? he's the thunder's second best player what the **** are you guys thinking?

the roster as is improves daily as the games go by (sucks that indiana seems to improve daily too).

thunder has unlocked shai's final form last game. he was much more active as a screener and pop man. that's great stuff. just need more people to operate that as a handler. i want to see cason be used on ball in those sets. a guy like cason operates that there's no place for anyone to hide defensively and sga can just go switch hunting like jokic and become de facto in joker's realm offensively.

now that they are overcoming the growing pains a huge blow up by adding a complete stranger (sabonis) that couldn't fit the thunder's defense worse?

Eh there’s a world that if OKC didn’t trade sabonis we could have build more towards him. Now ? Probably not.


Given caruso age and us talking a few years into the future, trading Caruso is a possibility down the line.
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Post#1516 » by Devilanche » Sun Jun 15, 2025 3:36 pm

Dadouv47 wrote:OKC needs Derrick White and a cheap back up PG just in case Ajay/Topic can't do the job next season

Derrick white does have some PG skills I believe .
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Post#1517 » by bbms » Sun Jun 15, 2025 3:48 pm

derrick white would be a fantastic idea and fit like a glove and celtics could cash want him in a scenario they deal both him and porzingis to duck aprons but

i don't like that player option, i'd command him to waive that ****

and

he doesn't help us duck 2nd apron when we can

maybe on a deadline deal where we have a couple of busts and we obviously can win but i think this doesn't fit the celtics timeline
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Post#1518 » by Kizz Fastfists » Sun Jun 15, 2025 4:01 pm

They are out of the running for giving up FOUR first round picks and a pick swap for Desmond Bane. What has happened to the trade market that Bane has that kind of value?
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Post#1519 » by bbms » Sun Jun 15, 2025 4:38 pm

Kizz Fastfists wrote:They are out of the running for giving up FOUR first round picks and a pick swap for Desmond Bane. What has happened to the trade market that Bane has that kind of value?


that explains a lot on okcs inactivity on the trade market

that's some market setting/result **** under the current cba
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Post#1520 » by bbms » Sun Jun 15, 2025 4:40 pm

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Dadouv47 wrote:All I care about are the finals anyway but hey let's talk a bit about the offseason so it will feel like we aren't stressed enough about the outcome of this series :lol:


The draft is in 10 days. I'd assume that Presti is spending more time prepping for the draft right now than worrying about the Finals. The coaching staff and pro scouts should be looking for adjustments. Please for the love of all that is good and right in the world give Jaylin some run in game 5!!! If we can't talk about the off-season 10 days before the draft when can we? Not until next Monday so only two days before the draft?


P.S. I know there is nothing good or right in the world, but I still want Jaylin to get some run with Chet/IH to not give up the size advantage they have been.


thunder has the biggest and highest paid supporting staff the entire league so i'd be worried if we have to choose between the finals and draft

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