Trades, Transactions and Ideas Thread

[Dn4sty]

A lot of people, including some suns fans, were talking about Ayton being in the same tier as Bagley before the season started.

I feel like there is a better than zero percent chance OKC could get Bagley by simply just taking him into their cap space

[ThunderBolt]

A lot of people, including some suns fans, were talking about Ayton being in the same tier as Bagley before the season started.

I feel like there is a better than zero percent chance OKC could get Bagley by simply just taking him into their cap space

I feel like we have enough picks that I would rather not make a move like that.

[Devilanche]

A lot of people, including some suns fans, were talking about Ayton being in the same tier as Bagley before the season started.

I feel like there is a better than zero percent chance OKC could get Bagley by simply just taking him into their cap space

I feel like we have enough picks that I would rather not make a move like that.

If you still believe he can turn it around , it’s still worth a try even considering future picks and who we picked.

I think there might be something there but he need to improve his work ethics

[ThunderBolt]

I feel like there is a better than zero percent chance OKC could get Bagley by simply just taking him into their cap space

I feel like we have enough picks that I would rather not make a move like that.

If you still believe he can turn it around , it’s still worth a try even considering future picks and who we picked.

I think there might be something there but he need to improve his work ethics

I just don’t see the upside being greater than a guy like Isaiah Jackson. Factor in Bagley’s salary and the fact that he’ll be due a contract soon, I would rather pass. I guess the good good thing is his second contract might be cheaper than his first.

[Devilanche]

I feel like we have enough picks that I would rather not make a move like that.

If you still believe he can turn it around , it’s still worth a try even considering future picks and who we picked.

I think there might be something there but he need to improve his work ethics

I just don’t see the upside being greater than a guy like Isaiah Jackson. Factor in Bagley’s salary and the fact that he’ll be due a contract soon, I would rather pass. I guess the good good thing is his second contract might be cheaper than his first.

He’s still 22 with 1 more year left so it’s more of a why not for me , if he’s the best we can obtain for a retread.

Given the blockbuster move with Boston send out 2 bigs in fairly ok drafting one big this year and taking a chance on another big that hasn’t work out elsewhere.

Basically for bagley, second chance for him before he settle for 5m ish contract. For whoever we draft , it’s putting up a lower hurdle for him to just outplay bagley.

I note however that it might be simpler and better overall to resign someone like muscala as a vet to open up the game for the rest of the team and be a vet to guide them.

[ThunderBolt]

If you still believe he can turn it around , it’s still worth a try even considering future picks and who we picked.

I think there might be something there but he need to improve his work ethics

I just don’t see the upside being greater than a guy like Isaiah Jackson. Factor in Bagley’s salary and the fact that he’ll be due a contract soon, I would rather pass. I guess the good good thing is his second contract might be cheaper than his first.

He’s still 22 with 1 more year left so it’s more of a why not for me , if he’s the best we can obtain for a retread.

Given the blockbuster move with Boston send out 2 bigs in fairly ok drafting one big this year and taking a chance on another big that hasn’t work out elsewhere.

Basically for bagley, second chance for him before he settle for 5m ish contract. For whoever we draft , it’s putting up a lower hurdle for him to just outplay bagley.

I note however that it might be simpler and better overall to resign someone like muscala as a vet to open up the game for the rest of the team and be a vet to guide them.

I don’t disagree with any of this. I just prefer this kind of move a little later in the rebuild.

[thor19]

If you still believe he can turn it around , it’s still worth a try even considering future picks and who we picked.

I think there might be something there but he need to improve his work ethics

I just don’t see the upside being greater than a guy like Isaiah Jackson. Factor in Bagley’s salary and the fact that he’ll be due a contract soon, I would rather pass. I guess the good good thing is his second contract might be cheaper than his first.

He’s still 22 with 1 more year left so it’s more of a why not for me , if he’s the best we can obtain for a retread.

Given the blockbuster move with Boston send out 2 bigs in fairly ok drafting one big this year and taking a chance on another big that hasn’t work out elsewhere.

Basically for bagley, second chance for him before he settle for 5m ish contract. For whoever we draft , it’s putting up a lower hurdle for him to just outplay bagley.

I note however that it might be simpler and better overall to resign someone like muscala as a vet to open up the game for the rest of the team and be a vet to guide them.

In term of potetial Bagley will be a lot better, but he have problems that I think presti dont want in a rebuild, Bagley and his father talk a lot , a say a lot of trash and thing that will affect the development of our other players, is almost a lavar 2.0 , so lets sign muscala as a vet.

[Devilanche]

I just don’t see the upside being greater than a guy like Isaiah Jackson. Factor in Bagley’s salary and the fact that he’ll be due a contract soon, I would rather pass. I guess the good good thing is his second contract might be cheaper than his first.

He’s still 22 with 1 more year left so it’s more of a why not for me , if he’s the best we can obtain for a retread.

Given the blockbuster move with Boston send out 2 bigs in fairly ok drafting one big this year and taking a chance on another big that hasn’t work out elsewhere.

Basically for bagley, second chance for him before he settle for 5m ish contract. For whoever we draft , it’s putting up a lower hurdle for him to just outplay bagley.

I note however that it might be simpler and better overall to resign someone like muscala as a vet to open up the game for the rest of the team and be a vet to guide them.

I don’t disagree with any of this. I just prefer this kind of move a little later in the rebuild.

I get that as well. If later on that means we can still be bad early and probably lock in our rotational bench players at a cheaper price (compared on their 3rd contract)

I think there’s value in taking a punt now though . There’s no guarantee any of these guys will be good too.

[ThunderBolt]

I just don’t see the upside being greater than a guy like Isaiah Jackson. Factor in Bagley’s salary and the fact that he’ll be due a contract soon, I would rather pass. I guess the good good thing is his second contract might be cheaper than his first.

He’s still 22 with 1 more year left so it’s more of a why not for me , if he’s the best we can obtain for a retread.

Given the blockbuster move with Boston send out 2 bigs in fairly ok drafting one big this year and taking a chance on another big that hasn’t work out elsewhere.

Basically for bagley, second chance for him before he settle for 5m ish contract. For whoever we draft , it’s putting up a lower hurdle for him to just outplay bagley.

I note however that it might be simpler and better overall to resign someone like muscala as a vet to open up the game for the rest of the team and be a vet to guide them.

In term of potetial Bagley will be a lot better, but he have problems that I think presti dont want in a rebuild, Bagley and his father talk a lot , a say a lot of trash and thing that will affect the development of our other players, is almost a lavar 2.0 , so lets sign muscala as a vet.

Normally that concerns me too. However there have been quite a few players that were malcontents in Sacramento only.

[Devilanche]

He’s still 22 with 1 more year left so it’s more of a why not for me , if he’s the best we can obtain for a retread.

Given the blockbuster move with Boston send out 2 bigs in fairly ok drafting one big this year and taking a chance on another big that hasn’t work out elsewhere.

Basically for bagley, second chance for him before he settle for 5m ish contract. For whoever we draft , it’s putting up a lower hurdle for him to just outplay bagley.

I note however that it might be simpler and better overall to resign someone like muscala as a vet to open up the game for the rest of the team and be a vet to guide them.

In term of potetial Bagley will be a lot better, but he have problems that I think presti dont want in a rebuild, Bagley and his father talk a lot , a say a lot of trash and thing that will affect the development of our other players, is almost a lavar 2.0 , so lets sign muscala as a vet.

Normally that concerns me too. However there have been quite a few players that were malcontents in Sacramento only.

To be fair the father shouldn’t be talking at all. He’s an adult , speak for himself . Or play so hard that there’s nothing the coach can do other than give you more minutes.


He’s on a one year contract now, if he act up still, we can just cut him. Simple as that . Just wonder if we have any vets to keep them players honest.

[Dn4sty]

I think OKC should bring back Muscala regardless of who they would hypothetically draft or acquire via trade

[ThunderBolt]

I think OKC should bring back Muscala regardless of who they would hypothetically draft or acquire via trade

Out of all the players on the roster that the thunder didn't draft, the three I would like to have back are Jerome, Kenrich and Muscala in that order. I wouldn't mind if Svi, Roby and Hall all returned but I don't think it would be hard to find other players with higher ceilings with our second round picks.

[cjmcallist]

Nate Duncan proposed

#30, UTA 2024 FRP, Ingles for Dort

Would you guys do that? I think I would do that.

[Dn4sty]

Nate Duncan proposed

#30, UTA 2024 FRP, Ingles for Dort

Would you guys do that? I think I would do that.

Did he specify the protections on that 2024 1st?

I’m leaning towards no by the way

[retrobro90]

I feel like we have enough picks that I would rather not make a move like that.

If you still believe he can turn it around , it’s still worth a try even considering future picks and who we picked.

I think there might be something there but he need to improve his work ethics

I just don’t see the upside being greater than a guy like Isaiah Jackson. Factor in Bagley’s salary and the fact that he’ll be due a contract soon, I would rather pass. I guess the good good thing is his second contract might be cheaper than his first.

I really don't see the foundation for Bagley to suddenly develop even if he gets his head on straight. Vecenie always used to rave about his fluid athleticism at Duke being what sets him apart but to me his only real function with that athleticism is his 2nd jump on the offensive glass. He doesn't have the natural handle or the post moves or the J so I just don't see how he transforms that dramatically in the timespan OKC would have to make a decision on him longterm. I think the real success Bagley could have one day will be when he realizes he's a role player and needs to do unselfish team oriented good role player things on the court (box out, communicate on defense, screen hard etc etc). The beauty about that type of player though is that they can find that guy without any question marks on how they fit mentally, physically, or financially.

[Dadouv47]

Nate Duncan proposed

#30, UTA 2024 FRP, Ingles for Dort

Would you guys do that? I think I would do that.

I wouldn't. Value wise it's not bad but we need players and not only picks...

Not that high on Dort but I wouldn't trade him for marginal picks.

Well if you decide to move SGA (won't happen), then sure, I'do it.

[cjmcallist]

Nate Duncan proposed

#30, UTA 2024 FRP, Ingles for Dort

Would you guys do that? I think I would do that.

Did he specify the protections on that 2024 1st?

I’m leaning towards no by the way

No specification on protections in the pod. I'd clarify lotto or top 10 protection, something like that. But, nice to see Dort's value recognized in two FRP.

Nate Duncan proposed

#30, UTA 2024 FRP, Ingles for Dort

Would you guys do that? I think I would do that.

I wouldn't. Value wise it's not bad but we need players and not only picks...

Not that high on Dort but I wouldn't trade him for marginal picks.

Well if you decide to move SGA (won't happen), then sure, I'do it.

This is the right question. It all hinges on the SGA decision.

[thor19]

Funny thing I see with a lot of SGA trades ideas are that they say he is too old for our rebuild but the guy we get in the trade that say can be part of the future is the same age or older

[Devilanche]

Funny thing I see with a lot of SGA trades ideas are that they say he is too old for our rebuild but the guy we get in the trade that say can be part of the future is the same age or older

Too good at a young age . The incomings are as young but not as good . So won’t devalue our own picks

[LoveMyRaps]

SGA for 4th + 2023 Raptors first

Yay or nay?