Trade Ideas, AKA Please God Bring Us Shooters

[Balkman32]

If the goal for Knicks is straight salary savings, would they send out THJ and Ntilikina for Schroder and Abrines.

This does not help the Knicks achieve their goals. With the way their roster is constructed they need to cut about $10 million in salary next season to keep KP's rights and sign a max guy. Dont forget that the Knicks have a $6.4 million cap hit for cutting Joakim.

The Knicks really only have to move Lee for a expiring contract to do what they need to do. I expect him to be moved for expiring deals. Unless they get a deal for Hardaway that adds a core guy on a rookie scale deal. The have KP, Knox, and Ntilikina. Add a max guy, a top 10 pick plus whatever they can add at the deadline by moving Hardaway, Lee, Kanter, and or Thomas, the Knicks can be a playoff team next year.

[Pillendreher]

plus whatever they can add at the deadline by moving Hardaway, Lee, Kanter, and or Thomas, the Knicks can be a playoff team next year.

They're going to have to pay to move those guys. The opposing team is going to add something.

[Balkman32]

I was thinking about Powell recently. I think if we get a guy like Powell its because they think Dre isn't coming back this year and possibly ever. Powell has a lot of years left on his current contract.

Yeah good point. That'd be 24 million for the backup backcourt.

I dont hate Powell on this team. I do hate giving the Raptors expirings him AND draft picks. If anything the draft pick compensation should be coming to OKC

This one is a little eh for me. It would cost the Thunder about $4 million in Lux tax to do the deal which is whatever. But, giving up Felton who yes he is a 3rd point guard. But, he is someone that can play 5 -10 minutes in a playoff game and you know what you are getting out of him. Where Abrines is right now is an unknown, having his RFA rights is something I see as value. He was a career 38% from 3 at the beginning of the season. He has had a down year from 3 this year shooting 32%, but his defense was much better and I think if we move him we will be wishing we didn't. I also wonder if this "personal DNP" were to get teams to stop asking for him in trades. TLC is on the block, he will most likely be moved to create roster space.

Powell is a nice player, but he has never been consistent. Adding Powell would also mean adding long term money. I don't know if his 20 minutes a game is worth the 3 years $32 million left on his deal after this season. As he helps this year he also blocks Diallo's minutes in future years.

If I am OKC I pass on this deal because I think there are better ones out there. I would assume the Thunder will go with a 9 man rotation in the playoffs. Hopefully the Thunder can add another wing so we are not relying on Abrines, Diallo, and or Nader as the wing off the bench.

[Balkman32]

plus whatever they can add at the deadline by moving Hardaway, Lee, Kanter, and or Thomas, the Knicks can be a playoff team next year.

They're going to have to pay to move those guys. The opposing team is going to add something.

I disagree. They don't have to move Kanter hes a FA after the season. They can buy out Thomas for $1 million next year, so they don't have to move him either. I think most playoff teams are looking to add wings in this trade season. Lee has been stacking up the DNP's but I don't think that's because of his play but that he does not fit in the coaching staff's plans. Why wouldn't the Kings swap Z-Bo for him. Lee's contract is also an expiring next season, expiring contracts have turned into assets over the plat couple of years. THJ is in his prime, he will be 27 before the end of the season. Yes he has 3 years $55 million left on his deal after this season but these are all years where he is under 30. There will be wing deprived teams that are willing to ship out expiring deals for these guys.

[Pillendreher]

There will be wing deprived teams that are willing to ship out expiring deals for these guys.

And the Knicks will have to add to that. Why should an opposing team take a mediocre to bad player with a bad to horrible contract off their hands and give them expirings for it without geting anything in return? Let's take Lee: The guy is currently 12 dead million riding the bench for them. What incentive do I have to make that monetary commitment disappear for New York without getting anything back? "He might get you some minutes" is not a good enough reason to do that. You could probably go and pick up some G-League guy to play 5 to 10 minutes a night that would only cost you a fraction of what these guys are making. We're talking about taking on double digit salaries for players that are meh at best.

[Pillendreher]

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If they're not getting picks for those guys, they're sure as hell not getting them for Green or Temple. Be serious.

[Balkman32]

There will be wing deprived teams that are willing to ship out expiring deals for these guys.

And the Knicks will have to add to that. Why should an opposing team take a mediocre to bad player with a bad to horrible contract off their hands and give them expirings for it without geting anything in return? Let's take Lee: The guy is currently 12 dead million riding the bench for them. What incentive do I have to make that monetary commitment disappear for New York without getting anything back? "He might get you some minutes" is not a good enough reason to do that. You could probably go and pick up some G-League guy to play 5 to 10 minutes a night that would only cost you a fraction of what these guys are making. We're talking about taking on double digit salaries for players that are meh at best.

Maybe IDk - The value of trades some times makes zero sense to me. But, just because he is riding the bench does not mean he can not come to your team and hit +40% from the corners. Just because he shot 32% in 10 games with the Knicks does not mean anything to me. If I am a team in need of wing help that wont be in the free agent market and I am getting offers from the Knicks for Lee who will be an expiring contract next year and all I give up an expiring guy I am doing it. Maybe the Knicks got to throw a 2nd into it. But, I don't think they would have to add a 1st or one of their core young players to add Lee.

THJ is a guy who will be 30 at the end of his deal. Yeah he is making $17 million but looking at how contracts have been given out its not an awful contract.

Sacramento could move Z-Bo to the Knicks for either of these guys. And the Knicks would complete their goal. If I am the Kings and I am looking around the league and teams want an arm and a leg for a wing and all i have to give is a guy who hasn't played for me. Why not? Wings are so valuable in this league. I think one fo these guys will be dealt and I don't think the Knicks will have to attach a major asset to make it happen.

[Dn4sty]

How about Kanter on a vet minimum after a buyout?

The biggest reason I’d be for it is because I think Noel and Kanter could help Adams rest leading up to playoffs games.

[ThunderBolt]

How about Kanter on a vet minimum after a buyout?

The biggest reason I’d be for it is because I think Noel and Kanter could help Adams rest leading up to playoffs games.

Kanter is a nice guy but he’s not a good player. Conversely, the center position is the one position we actually have a competent back up. There is no reason for Adams to be playing so many minutes and Noel so few. Billy needs to quit running Adams in to the ground. Hes playing Patterson more minutes than Noel at only 13.7 mpg. Adams is now leading the league in minutes played at the center position. I can’t imagine seeing schroder and Kanter out there together.



http://www.espn.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/minutes/sort/avgMinutes/position/centers

[Kizz Fastfists]

How about Kanter on a vet minimum after a buyout?

I thought you wanted OKC to win games. That isn't going to help. Bring in a stretch 4 and Grant can cover some center minutes if they want to rest Adams down the stretch.

[Pillendreher]

How about Kanter on a vet minimum after a buyout?

The biggest reason I’d be for it is because I think Noel and Kanter could help Adams rest leading up to playoffs games.

Hell no. Keep that bum far away from the Thunder.

[RalphSampsonJr]

Green from the griz would be useful. Can rebound better than both 2pat and Grant and has been shooting well from 3. Our rebounding has taken a hit the last month when it is usually thunders bread and butter.
Someone like him and/or a shooting 2-3 is what this team needs. Kanter would be a nice story but the good feels would quickly disapear once you watch him continuously be in the worst position possible on every pnr coverage

[Dn4sty]

I wonder if the Pacers would move on from any of their role players now with Dipo out. What would Bojan cost?

[Thundershock88]

I love Kanter and I wouldn't mind him on the roster because he's a good locker room guy, but that is basically the extent of it. This team has gotten so much better by shedding defensive liabilities in Kanter and Melo. Fine with him signing for cheap, but he doesn't need to see much playing time, if any. I'd rather just keep the guys we have or try to add a shooter.

[Osirus89]

I wonder if the Pacers would move on from any of their role players now with Dipo out. What would Bojan cost?

A bunch. He is one of their best players even when they are at full strength.

[JustOneFix]

Man, there was so many good chances to boost the bench lately with guys like Corey Brewer, Keneth Faried and Austin Rivers, but FO apparently wasn't interested to pick em up...

[ThunderBolt]

The trade deadline will be very telling about how all-in he FO office really is.

[Pillendreher]

The trade deadline will be very telling about how all-in he FO office really is.

If they need the money, I could send them 100 bucks.

[ThunderBolt]

The trade deadline will be very telling about how all-in he FO office really is.

If they need the money, I could send them 100 bucks.

Might be worth a shot. Some little kid gave his allowance to re-sign Westbrook and Presti gave him tickets to the game and even a personal phone call.

[Pillendreher]

The trade deadline will be very telling about how all-in he FO office really is.

If they need the money, I could send them 100 bucks.

Might be worth a shot. Some little kid gave his allowance to re-sign Westbrook and Presti gave him tickets to the game and even a personal phone call.

I would be content with a minority stake in the franchise. 100 bucks should get me a seat at the table.