Trade Ideas, AKA Please God Bring Us Shooters

[acheema0]

Man, there was so many good chances to boost the bench lately with guys like Corey Brewer, Keneth Faried and Austin Rivers, but FO apparently wasn't interested to pick em up...

I mean we had Brewer, and he looked decent for the first few weeks last year but was largely eh afterward. Faried didn't really fit what we needed, and he already had an agreement with the Rockets prior to being bought out so not much of a chance there. Rivers would have been nice, playing in that Diallo/Nader spot but I think they wanted to keep the roster spot open for later.

[Pillendreher]

Man, there was so many good chances to boost the bench lately with guys like Corey Brewer, Keneth Faried and Austin Rivers, but FO apparently wasn't interested to pick em up...

I mean we had Brewer, and he looked decent for the first few weeks last year but was largely eh afterward. Faried didn't really fit what we needed, and he already had an agreement with the Rockets prior to being bought out so not much of a chance there. Rivers would have been nice, playing in that Diallo/Nader spot but I think they wanted to keep the roster spot open for later.

We also can't force these players to sign. Rivers is playing 37 minutes a night (!) with the Rockets. Faried is at 29 minutes a night. There's no way we would have given either of those guys anything close to that amount of minutes. "We'll start you" is probably a better sales pitch then "You'll have the pleasure of playing wiht our bench 10 to 15 minutes a night, if the situation calls for it".

[ThunderBolt]

Man, there was so many good chances to boost the bench lately with guys like Corey Brewer, Keneth Faried and Austin Rivers, but FO apparently wasn't interested to pick em up...

I mean we had Brewer, and he looked decent for the first few weeks last year but was largely eh afterward. Faried didn't really fit what we needed, and he already had an agreement with the Rockets prior to being bought out so not much of a chance there. Rivers would have been nice, playing in that Diallo/Nader spot but I think they wanted to keep the roster spot open for later.

We also can't force these players to sign. Rivers is playing 37 minutes a night (!) with the Rockets. Faried is at 29 minutes a night. There's no way we would have given either of those guys anything close to that amount of minutes. "We'll start you" is probably a better sales pitch then "You'll have the pleasure of playing wiht our bench 10 to 15 minutes a night, if the situation calls for it".

For whatever reason, Houston sometimes gets talked about like a mid tier city. It’s like the fourth or fifth biggest city in the US and it is a warm weather city. It’s not LA but it’s much closer to LA than it is OKC.

[Dadouv47]

I mean we had Brewer, and he looked decent for the first few weeks last year but was largely eh afterward. Faried didn't really fit what we needed, and he already had an agreement with the Rockets prior to being bought out so not much of a chance there. Rivers would have been nice, playing in that Diallo/Nader spot but I think they wanted to keep the roster spot open for later.

We also can't force these players to sign. Rivers is playing 37 minutes a night (!) with the Rockets. Faried is at 29 minutes a night. There's no way we would have given either of those guys anything close to that amount of minutes. "We'll start you" is probably a better sales pitch then "You'll have the pleasure of playing wiht our bench 10 to 15 minutes a night, if the situation calls for it".

For whatever reason, Houston sometimes gets talked about like a mid tier city. It’s like the fourth or fifth biggest city in the US and it is a warm weather city. It’s not LA but it’s much closer to LA than it is OKC.

less taxes too

[Dadouv47]

Schroeder and Abrines to NOLA confirmed

[Dn4sty]

Could OKC even build a package to get AD?

[ThunderBolt]

Could OKC even build a package to get AD?

I assume you mean without including Russ or George?

[Dn4sty]

Could OKC even build a package to get AD?

I assume you mean without including Russ or George?

Correct. No chance they take Russ and George is untouchable

[SecondTake]

Ferg should be untouchable too. Guy is going to be putting up all star numbers in a few seasons.

[SecondTake]

How about Adams, Pat and Abrines/Nader for AD.

PS: I love Adams, but I'd part with him for AD if AD commits to an extension.

[Balkman32]

Could OKC even build a package to get AD?

Sure. It starts with Adams, Grant and Ferguson. I think that is a package the Pels would have a hard time turning down. It's 3 of the 5 starters, and everyone is under 25.

The C's can't trade for him at the deadline if Kyrie is still on his same deal. The C's have a bunch of first round picks Marcus Smart, and Jaylen Brown. Scary Terry will be a restricted FA this offseason, so that could complicate a deal in which he is included.

The Lakers can trade Lonzo, Ingram, Kuzma, Hart and Lance for AD.

One dark horse team is Dallas. If they are tilling to talk Luka the Pel's should listen.

Would Denver trade the joker?

The Clippers could trade Harris, Harrell, SGA, Robinson. They would still have enough room under the cap in the offseason to bring in Kawai, and keep Gallinari and Lou Williams.

[Balkman32]

Schroeder and Abrines to NOLA confirmed

I don't even know if we can trade Abrines right now unless the acquiring team just plans to eat his salary and cut him.

[Dadouv47]

Schroeder and Abrines to NOLA confirmed

I don't even know if we can trade Abrines right now unless the acquiring team just plans to eat his salary and cut him.

I was being sarcastic

[Dn4sty]

Ferg should be untouchable too. Guy is going to be putting up all star numbers in a few seasons.

You can’t make Ferg untouchable in an AD trade.

Basically the only guys that aren’t traceable are Russ and George.

You’d also likely need to take back Hill to help the Pelicans get off of his salary

[Balkman32]

How about Adams, Pat and Abrines/Nader for AD.

PS: I love Adams, but I'd part with him for AD if AD commits to an extension.

They would need more than Adams. Patterson, Nader, and Abrines don't move the needle. They might all be out of the league by the time the Pel's reach the playoffs.

Ferguson would have to be in this deal. Yes he is shooting 48% from 3 in the month of January. Yes he is playing great defense, but for a guy like AD he is tradable. If the Thunder really want AD they have to make sure they outbid everyone else.

I don't think this is the rout that go because Steve is such a Thunder guy and Ferguson is what this team has needed over the past 10 years. But, then again you can only play 5 guys. Having AD, PG and Westbrook. Wow. Just Wow.

[SecondTake]

Ferg should be untouchable too. Guy is going to be putting up all star numbers in a few seasons.

You can’t make Ferg untouchable in an AD trade.

Basically the only guys that aren’t traceable are Russ and George.

You’d also likely need to take back Hill to help the Pelicans get off of his salary

Ferg is an elite perimeter defender, is certainly going to be better from 3 (his release is beautiful), and he doesn't look nearly developed yet. You expect him to put on weight and develop his shot/handle/defense further at his age.

He'll probably never be as good as AD, but I doubt AD resigns with OKC and we get to have Ferg cheap for the foreseeable future. If AD actually committed to OKC long term, then I trade Ferg. But no way would I do a Derozan - Leonard type trade where I'm giving up Ferg for the hope of resigning AD. He's too valuable to gamble.

[Balkman32]

Ferg should be untouchable too. Guy is going to be putting up all star numbers in a few seasons.

You can’t make Ferg untouchable in an AD trade.

Basically the only guys that aren’t traceable are Russ and George.

You’d also likely need to take back Hill to help the Pelicans get off of his salary

I think that is where the line is drawn. The Thunder cant take on bad salary. I think Sam would have to Jedi mind trick Dell Demps him becoming an expiring guy is more valuable to the Pels in the off season.

What the Pels should do is load up on guys who expire after the 2020 season so they can clear the deck with the hops of adding some FA's to their first round picks, plus assets acquired from the AD and Jrue Holliday trades.

[Dn4sty]

Ferg should be untouchable too. Guy is going to be putting up all star numbers in a few seasons.

You can’t make Ferg untouchable in an AD trade.

Basically the only guys that aren’t traceable are Russ and George.

You’d also likely need to take back Hill to help the Pelicans get off of his salary

Ferg is an elite perimeter defender, is certainly going to be better from 3 (his release is beautiful), and he doesn't look nearly developed yet. You expect him to put on weight and develop his shot/handle/defense further at his age.

He'll probably never be as good as AD, but I doubt AD resigns with OKC and we get to have Ferg cheap for the foreseeable future. If AD actually committed to OKC long term, then I trade Ferg. But no way would I do a Derozan - Leonard type trade where I'm giving up Ferg for the hope of resigning AD. He's too valuable to gamble.

One month of elite shooting and just over a half season of solid defense doesn’t make a player untouchable. This is craziness.

Also Ferg’s shot while effective over the last month, is anything but beautiful

[SecondTake]

You can’t make Ferg untouchable in an AD trade.

Basically the only guys that aren’t traceable are Russ and George.

You’d also likely need to take back Hill to help the Pelicans get off of his salary

Ferg is an elite perimeter defender, is certainly going to be better from 3 (his release is beautiful), and he doesn't look nearly developed yet. You expect him to put on weight and develop his shot/handle/defense further at his age.

He'll probably never be as good as AD, but I doubt AD resigns with OKC and we get to have Ferg cheap for the foreseeable future. If AD actually committed to OKC long term, then I trade Ferg. But no way would I do a Derozan - Leonard type trade where I'm giving up Ferg for the hope of resigning AD. He's too valuable to gamble.

One month of elite shooting and just over a half season of solid defense doesn’t make a player untouchable. This is craziness.

Also Ferg’s shot while effective over the last month, is anything but beautiful

IDK, even when his shot wasn't falling it looked good. He has a quick release right at the top of the motion, with a nice arch on all his shots. His shots just all look fundamentally good. I don't really understand why he can't hit free throws but that's another story.

I suppose I can't call him untouchable -but I'd hate to trade him on a gamble. I really think he can become a 20/5/3 guy in a couple of seasons. Yeah, AD is a 30/15 guy, but I really think he's going to the Lakers as soon as he can. It would be a rental.

[JustOneFix]

Can you guys please stop with this nonsense? No, sorry, you can not get Anthony Davis for Adams, Ferguson and Jeremy Grant. That's just insane.