Trades, Transactions and Ideas Thread

[Devilanche]

Really curious to know if we are gonna take advantage of our trade exceptions AND cap space.

2-3 other teams might be willing to take bad contracts for value but that's it. New York has a lot of cap space but they want to compete.

Isn’t it one or the other ?
If we use cap space we renounce our TPEs and if we use TPEs we are operating as over the cap ?

[Devilanche]

Really curious to know if we are gonna take advantage of our trade exceptions AND cap space.

2-3 other teams might be willing to take bad contracts for value but that's it. New York has a lot of cap space but they want to compete.

I think you’ll see at least one of Adams, Buddy, Bledsoe, Favors, Love, or Lamb on this team next year where OKC collects assets to do so

We should take either favor or lamb as a starting point and someone do enough trade for the offseason so we end up with buddy or love.

[Dn4sty]

Really curious to know if we are gonna take advantage of our trade exceptions AND cap space.

2-3 other teams might be willing to take bad contracts for value but that's it. New York has a lot of cap space but they want to compete.

Isn’t it one or the other ?
If we use cap space we renounce our TPEs and if we use TPEs we are operating as over the cap ?

This correct. You can’t have both.

[Devilanche]

I was under the impression that when you have trade exceptions, you lose them if you sign a free agent. But it was just something I'd seen on a message board, so it could be wrong.

Couldn’t we use our BEA or part of our MLE?

[Dn4sty]

Really curious to know if we are gonna take advantage of our trade exceptions AND cap space.

2-3 other teams might be willing to take bad contracts for value but that's it. New York has a lot of cap space but they want to compete.

I think you’ll see at least one of Adams, Buddy, Bledsoe, Favors, Love, or Lamb on this team next year where OKC collects assets to do so

We should take either favor or lamb as a starting point and someone do enough trade for the offseason so we end up with buddy or love.

I think Favors still has some gas in the tank. I’d take pick 30 and Jazz 2026 2nd for him

[Dadouv47]

Really curious to know if we are gonna take advantage of our trade exceptions AND cap space.

2-3 other teams might be willing to take bad contracts for value but that's it. New York has a lot of cap space but they want to compete.

I think you’ll see at least one of Adams, Buddy, Bledsoe, Favors, Love, or Lamb on this team next year where OKC collects assets to do so

We should take either favor or lamb as a starting point and someone do enough trade for the offseason so we end up with buddy or love.

sounds good to me depending on what we receive. Sometimes I think it could be valuable to trade Kemba and a pick for 2-3 average contracts so Presti can flip contracts over and over for value like he did last offseason. I think this is gonna be a pretty busy offseason with a lot of trades and we don't have much to offer

[Devilanche]

I think you’ll see at least one of Adams, Buddy, Bledsoe, Favors, Love, or Lamb on this team next year where OKC collects assets to do so

We should take either favor or lamb as a starting point and someone do enough trade for the offseason so we end up with buddy or love.

I think Favors still has some gas in the tank. I’d take pick 30 and Jazz 2026 2nd for him

He’s on the MLE type of deal . I would do it for 30th or a future first as a starting point . That would allow us to either fill up backup C/vet mentor role or take on additional salary with retrading him either immediately or at the trade deadline.

[Devilanche]

sounds good to me depending on what we receive. Sometimes I think it could be valuable to trade Kemba and a pick for 2-3 average contracts so Presti can flip contracts over and over for value like he did last offseason. I think this is gonna be a pretty busy offseason with a lot of trades and we don't have much to offer

I have that same feeling as well . Trading him to say Lakers or even clippers depending on what cost / value it comes with just so we can see him doing more trades.

The best part of his trades last season was that it never appear he was trying to rob opposing team so nobody should be afraid of doing trade with him this season .

[jake_swivel]

I was under the impression that when you have trade exceptions, you lose them if you sign a free agent. But it was just something I'd seen on a message board, so it could be wrong.

Couldn’t we use our BEA or part of our MLE?

Yeah, you’re right.

[BlazersBroncos]

If LAL cant find a way to get Paul, Westbrook or even Wall, what about:

Kemba Walker, #36 for Dennis Schroder (S&T Y1 27M / Y2 28M TO / Y3 29M TO)

Basically, OKC cuts out a year of Irving's contract by using the S&T loophole of only the 1st season of a players deal needing to be GTD. LAL takes a swing on Irving to be a low tier #3. All would depend on Kemba being healthy.

I think it could work as IMO the market for Dennis will be much, much lower than he expects. I also like the Dennis fit next to SGA more than Kemba's, and think he would take the $$$ in hopes that he can revamp his value after a meh regular season and awful playoffs.

[retrobro90]

If LAL cant find a way to get Paul, Westbrook or even Wall, what about:

Kemba Walker, #36 for Dennis Schroder (S&T Y1 27M / Y2 28M TO / Y3 29M TO)

Basically, OKC cuts out a year of Irving's contract by using the S&T loophole of only the 1st season of a players deal needing to be GTD. LAL takes a swing on Irving to be a low tier #3. All would depend on Kemba being healthy.

I think it could work as IMO the market for Dennis will be much, much lower than he expects. I also like the Dennis fit next to SGA more than Kemba's, and think he would take the $$$ in hopes that he can revamp his value after a meh regular season and awful playoffs.

I didn't see the team options there at first so I was about to eviscerate this deal but I think if they did this it would have to come with some sort of handshake agreement that Dennis would be the starting PG next to Shai. Don't think he's interested in another bench role even though the whole world knows it's what's best for the team he's on.

[retrobro90]

I think you’ll see at least one of Adams, Buddy, Bledsoe, Favors, Love, or Lamb on this team next year where OKC collects assets to do so

We should take either favor or lamb as a starting point and someone do enough trade for the offseason so we end up with buddy or love.

I think Favors still has some gas in the tank. I’d take pick 30 and Jazz 2026 2nd for him

I think he's gassed out tbh but I think he's a smart vet/good for the culture type presence and a late 1st/2nd is a nice price tag for taking on his deal.

[Dadouv47]

If LAL cant find a way to get Paul, Westbrook or even Wall, what about:

Kemba Walker, #36 for Dennis Schroder (S&T Y1 27M / Y2 28M TO / Y3 29M TO)

Basically, OKC cuts out a year of Irving's contract by using the S&T loophole of only the 1st season of a players deal needing to be GTD. LAL takes a swing on Irving to be a low tier #3. All would depend on Kemba being healthy.

I think it could work as IMO the market for Dennis will be much, much lower than he expects. I also like the Dennis fit next to SGA more than Kemba's, and think he would take the $$$ in hopes that he can revamp his value after a meh regular season and awful playoffs.

Not a big fan of it but mostly I don't see why Schroeder would be willing to do this. He wants a bigger contract and even if he's willing to gamble on him for a season, don't think OKC is the place. We will need to develop some guards so no way we give Schroeder almost 40 MPG so he can regain some value.

[slick_watts]

minor point: the year two and three on that s&t deal would have to be non or partial guaranteed, not team options. this makes it less desirable for the player. i think schroder can find something better in free agency than agreeing to this.

[ThunderBolt]

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[BlazersBroncos]

Would eating Love and moving 6, 16 and 18 be worth getting 3?

I personally think so. Might not even take 18, but rather a future FRP?

[ThunderBolt]

Would eating Love and moving 6, 16 and 18 be worth getting 3?

I personally think so. Might not even take 18, but rather a future FRP?

I would do it but it’s hard to see Cleveland moving down that much.

[Dadouv47]

Would eating Love and moving 6, 16 and 18 be worth getting 3?

I personally think so. Might not even take 18, but rather a future FRP?

I would do it but it’s hard to see Cleveland moving down that much.

Doubt Cleveland accept. I would do it because I like Mobley a lot and I'm not high on any prospect at #6.

If Cleveland is considering this offer, I think it would be better for both teams to offer #6, 16, 2022 Suns FRP and 2023 Denver FRP. Would be pretty good for us to draft another player in the first round and I doubt Cleveland is willing to draft 3 FRPs (they are looking to compete and may prefer to use those future picks to get some good players in return).

Well actually if we have a chance to move up I think Cleveland is gonna ask for LAC 2022 FRP. Don't want to trade that pick but for Mobley....sure.

[thedoppelganger]

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Ok I'm annoyed we weren't in on this, but maybe JV was the difference. Have to think we have something else in the works.

Not sure I like this for Memphis though? JV was huge for them last year.

[ThunderBolt]

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Ok I'm annoyed we weren't in on this, but maybe JV was the difference. Have to think we have something else in the works.

Not sure I like this for Memphis though? JV was huge for them last year.

I'm not sure what to think of it. It seems like New Orleans got off easy.

Edit- Just saw the second pick for Memphis. I like it more for them.