Oklahoma City Thunder Regular Season Thread: Part IV

[jbk1234]

And Dion hopefully got some of the chucking out of his system.

Yeah he had the chuckatron 2000 firing on all cylinders tonight. He gets the game into overtime by taking it to the rim against two seven footers on consecutive plays, and once there, is firing up fade away/off balance three point shots. Dion's gonna Dion.

Meanwhile in Cleveland the local paper is running stories on Kyrie's good game against Atlanta last night. Teague scored 21 on 9-13 shooting and had 9 assists in 31 minutes. I'm like that's what we're calling good now?

[bondom34]

And Dion hopefully got some of the chucking out of his system.

Yeah he had the chuckatron 2000 firing on all cylinders tonight. He gets the game into overtime by taking it to the rim against two seven footers on consecutive plays, and once there, is firing up fade away/off balance three point shots. Dion's gonna Dion.

Meanwhile in Cleveland the local paper is running stories on Kyrie's good game against Atlanta last night. Teague scored 21 on 9-13 shooting and had 9 assists in 31 minutes. I'm like that's what we're calling good now?

Trade you .

[jbk1234]

And Dion hopefully got some of the chucking out of his system.

Yeah he had the chuckatron 2000 firing on all cylinders tonight. He gets the game into overtime by taking it to the rim against two seven footers on consecutive plays, and once there, is firing up fade away/off balance three point shots. Dion's gonna Dion.

Meanwhile in Cleveland the local paper is running stories on Kyrie's good game against Atlanta last night. Teague scored 21 on 9-13 shooting and had 9 assists in 31 minutes. I'm like that's what we're calling good now?

Trade you .

Yeah I think I'm done with both of them.

[bondom34]

Yeah he had the chuckatron 2000 firing on all cylinders tonight. He gets the game into overtime by taking it to the rim against two seven footers on consecutive plays, and once there, is firing up fade away/off balance three point shots. Dion's gonna Dion.

Meanwhile in Cleveland the local paper is running stories on Kyrie's good game against Atlanta last night. Teague scored 21 on 9-13 shooting and had 9 assists in 31 minutes. I'm like that's what we're calling good now?

Trade you .

Yeah I think I'm done with both of them.

Saw it on the trade board but do you think there's a legit shot Kyrie goes before Love? From the outside I don't follow it as much but he's been the problem all along IMO.

[jbk1234]

Trade you .

Yeah I think I'm done with both of them.

Saw it on the trade board but do you think there's a legit shot Kyrie goes before Love? From the outside I don't follow it as much but he's been the problem all along IMO.

If I were the GM, it wouldn't even be a close call. When we played the Thunder in OKC, we moved him off of Westrbrook after two plays and he developed a bruised ego, eh I mean flu like symptoms. The Cavs then proceeded to have one of their better games of the year. I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall in the F.O. for that game. Kyrie's ability to create offense out of nothing is unique but IMO he doesn't care about any other aspect of the game.

[bondom34]

Yeah I think I'm done with both of them.

Saw it on the trade board but do you think there's a legit shot Kyrie goes before Love? From the outside I don't follow it as much but he's been the problem all along IMO.

If I were the GM, it wouldn't even be a close call. When we played the Thunder in OKC, we moved him off of Westrbrook after two plays and he developed a bruised ego, eh I mean flu like symptoms. The Cavs then proceeded to have one of their better games of the year. I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall in the F.O. for that game. Kyrie's ability to create offense out of nothing is unique but IMO he doesn't care about any other aspect of the game.

Yeah reading the PC board thats the consensus it seems and I feel like hes plateaued and a big part of why Love is so underutilized.

[jbk1234]

Saw it on the trade board but do you think there's a legit shot Kyrie goes before Love? From the outside I don't follow it as much but he's been the problem all along IMO.

If I were the GM, it wouldn't even be a close call. When we played the Thunder in OKC, we moved him off of Westrbrook after two plays and he developed a bruised ego, eh I mean flu like symptoms. The Cavs then proceeded to have one of their better games of the year. I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall in the F.O. for that game. Kyrie's ability to create offense out of nothing is unique but IMO he doesn't care about any other aspect of the game.

Yeah reading the PC board thats the consensus it seems and I feel like hes plateaued and a big part of why Love is so underutilized.

In fairness to both Kyrie and Love, neither are a good third options. They're both limited defensively and you lose too much of what makes them special when you ask them to be the third banana on offense. If Kyrie's ego could handle it, you could use him as a Harden-lite super sub. But like Harden, I think he'd rather be the first option on a team of his own even if that team had a lower ceiling.

[bondom34]

If I were the GM, it wouldn't even be a close call. When we played the Thunder in OKC, we moved him off of Westrbrook after two plays and he developed a bruised ego, eh I mean flu like symptoms. The Cavs then proceeded to have one of their better games of the year. I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall in the F.O. for that game. Kyrie's ability to create offense out of nothing is unique but IMO he doesn't care about any other aspect of the game.

Yeah reading the PC board thats the consensus it seems and I feel like hes plateaued and a big part of why Love is so underutilized.

In fairness to both Kyrie and Love, neither are a good third options. They're both limited defensively and you lose too much of what makes them special when you ask them to be the third banana on offense. If Kyrie's ego could handle it, you could use him as a Harden-lite super sub. But like Harden, I think he'd rather be the first option on a team of his own even if that team had a lower ceiling.

I definitely agree there. He's never gonna fully defer, I can't imagine him w/ Dion too .

[jbk1234]

Yeah reading the PC board thats the consensus it seems and I feel like hes plateaued and a big part of why Love is so underutilized.

In fairness to both Kyrie and Love, neither are a good third options. They're both limited defensively and you lose too much of what makes them special when you ask them to be the third banana on offense. If Kyrie's ego could handle it, you could use him as a Harden-lite super sub. But like Harden, I think he'd rather be the first option on a team of his own even if that team had a lower ceiling.

I definitely agree there. He's never gonna fully defer, I can't imagine him w/ Dion too .

Add in Byron we-never-practiced-defense Scott and there was some quality basketball.

[bondom34]

In fairness to both Kyrie and Love, neither are a good third options. They're both limited defensively and you lose too much of what makes them special when you ask them to be the third banana on offense. If Kyrie's ego could handle it, you could use him as a Harden-lite super sub. But like Harden, I think he'd rather be the first option on a team of his own even if that team had a lower ceiling.

I definitely agree there. He's never gonna fully defer, I can't imagine him w/ Dion too .

Add in Byron we-never-practiced-defense Scott and there was some quality basketball.

Byron Scott, the coach who keeps getting teams top 3 picks.

[Andre Roberstan]

I definitely agree there. He's never gonna fully defer, I can't imagine him w/ Dion too .

Add in Byron we-never-practiced-defense Scott and there was some quality basketball.

Byron Scott, the coach who keeps getting teams top 3 picks.

It's a gift.

[Marcus50]

Adams is now 15th in DRPM at 3.15. Kanter is 400th overall. Although Kanter is almost neutral at -0.6

RPM is not a good (fair) indicator to compare two players. RPM takes into account teammates, if the teammates are good, RPM is likely good. Adams plays with Roberson, Ibaka, KD and Russ. Wheres Kanter plays mostly with Dion, Singler, Foye and Payne.

Last year Adams played mostly with the second unit, his DRPM was 1.54, ORPM was -2.72.

This year, his numbers are better because his teammates are offensively and defensively better, so his RPM. His contract year is this year, management plays him with the starters.

Tonight if starters do not play, we will see how much his RPM falls, to get an idea how much really he is good.

Adams has made huge improvements this year. The DRPM numbers only confirm which is blatantly obvious when you just watch the game. Today he was excellent against SAS. Note he was marking Aldridge not Duncan when Aldridge was on court. He is our best defender. It is not even close.

[Marcus50]

Adams is now 15th in DRPM at 3.15. Kanter is 400th overall. Although Kanter is almost neutral at -0.6

RPM is not a good (fair) indicator to compare two players. RPM takes into account teammates, if the teammates are good, RPM is likely good. Adams plays with Roberson, Ibaka, KD and Russ. Wheres Kanter plays mostly with Dion, Singler, Foye and Payne.

Last year Adams played mostly with the second unit, his DRPM was 1.54, ORPM was -2.72.

This year, his numbers are better because his teammates are offensively and defensively better, so his RPM. His contract year is this year, management plays him with the starters.

Tonight if starters do not play, we will see how much his RPM falls, to get an idea how much really he is good.

Adams has made huge improvements this year. The DRPM numbers only confirm which is blatantly obvious when you just watch the game. Today he was excellent against SAS. Note he was marking Aldridge not Duncan when Aldridge was on court. He is our best defender. It is not even close.

[eyedoc]

Adams is now 15th in DRPM at 3.15. Kanter is 400th overall. Although Kanter is almost neutral at -0.6

RPM is not a good (fair) indicator to compare two players. RPM takes into account teammates, if the teammates are good, RPM is likely good. Adams plays with Roberson, Ibaka, KD and Russ. Wheres Kanter plays mostly with Dion, Singler, Foye and Payne.

Last year Adams played mostly with the second unit, his DRPM was 1.54, ORPM was -2.72.

This year, his numbers are better because his teammates are offensively and defensively better, so his RPM. His contract year is this year, management plays him with the starters.

Tonight if starters do not play, we will see how much his RPM falls, to get an idea how much really he is good.

The most objective comment. Congraculations.

[bondom34]

Adams is now 15th in DRPM at 3.15. Kanter is 400th overall. Although Kanter is almost neutral at -0.6

RPM is not a good (fair) indicator to compare two players. RPM takes into account teammates, if the teammates are good, RPM is likely good. Adams plays with Roberson, Ibaka, KD and Russ. Wheres Kanter plays mostly with Dion, Singler, Foye and Payne.

Last year Adams played mostly with the second unit, his DRPM was 1.54, ORPM was -2.72.

This year, his numbers are better because his teammates are offensively and defensively better, so his RPM. His contract year is this year, management plays him with the starters.

Tonight if starters do not play, we will see how much his RPM falls, to get an idea how much really he is good.

The most objective comment. Congraculations.

That's not what RPM does...I would really recommend understanding it first.

[Bergmaniac]

Seems like you'd be facing Dallas in the playoffs. Carlisle vs Donovan could be the most one-sided coach match-up in the playoffs in a while.

[Pillendreher]

Also, note this game whenever people talk about the bench being the worst in the league. Remember it.

If there's one thing that game has shown, it's that there's a decent bench lineup out there. It's up to Donovan to find it.

If Payne still won't get minutes, somebody should slap some sense into Billy. Clearly, CLEARLY our best floor general next to Russ.

Seems like you'd be facing Dallas in the playoffs. Carlisle vs Donovan could be the most one-sided coach match-up in the playoffs in a while.

We'll sweep them.

[bondom34]

Also, note this game whenever people talk about the bench being the worst in the league. Remember it.

If there's one thing that game has shown, it's that there's a decent bench lineup out there. It's up to Donovan to find it.

If Payne still won't get minutes, somebody should slap some sense into Billy. Clearly, CLEARLY our best floor general next to Russ.

Seems like you'd be facing Dallas in the playoffs. Carlisle vs Donovan could be the most one-sided coach match-up in the playoffs in a while.

We'll sweep them.

Agree, I just remember a lot of hearing about how awful the bench is, when its really the coach.

I think Dallas at least takes a game at their place though, the only team in the west who gets swept at this point to me is maybe Memphis.

[NaturalThunder]

So I guess it's looking like we're going to get the Mavs in the 1st round. I know they don't have Parsons, but for whatever reason that matchup still bothers me a lot more than the Grizzlies. Obviously the Grizzlies not having Gasol or Conley (or is Conley supposed to come back for the playoffs?) means that series would be a pretty easy 4-0 sweep. We should beat the Mavs, but I still seeing it being a 5 or even 6 game series where a couple of our wins are nailbiters.

[Pillendreher]

The Mavs have been massively overperforming these last few games. The only way they win a game is by Dirk turning back the clock 5 years. We have the 4th highest NetRtG against them; 2nd best ORtG, 12th best DRtG, 3rd highest TRB%. Our bigs have been killing them (36/22/3 on 62,5 TS%) and our Defense should improve come Playoffs time (just because Durant and Westbrook will give way more effort).