2017 OKC Thunder Trade Discussion

[Balkman32]

Yeah there are teams that have 5 players better than the 2nd best player on the Thunder. You can't just snap your fingers and add all star players. They have to grow the team organically.

Dipo was not the cause for this lost series. But, he also was not the solution. If the Thunder trade him, with a young player and get a star sure pull the trigger. But, I don't see that happening.

The Thunder have a nice group off the bench having McDermott, Abrines, and Grant on the bench all having some experience with the Team and in the playoffs.

The way the Thunder handle Roberson will be interesting this year. I assume they will match just about any offer sheet if it goes that way. He really needs to take 100 FT a day

[Bergmaniac]

Even if Oladipo gains confidence in the future in the playoffs and plays the way he can, his top level isn't that impressive. He would be a nice 3rd option on a top 8 team or 4th option on a championship team. He just don't have the handles and the driving ability to be more than that on offense and hasn't improved in this area since his sophomore year. That's even more clear in the playoffs when the defenses tighten up and more contact is allowed. His passing and vision remain average at best. And while he's improving his outside shooting slightly every year, it still doesn't seem likely he'd become a great shooter any time soon. He plays solid D and is really good as a partner of Russ in the fast breaks, but that's not enough to be a major contributor in the playoffs outside of a fluke game here or there where he gets hot from outside.

[ThunderBolt]

Yeah there are teams that have 5 players better than the 2nd best player on the Thunder. You can't just snap your fingers and add all star players. They have to grow the team organically.

Dipo was not the cause for this lost series. But, he also was not the solution. If the Thunder trade him, with a young player and get a star sure pull the trigger. But, I don't see that happening.

The Thunder have a nice group off the bench having McDermott, Abrines, and Grant on the bench all having some experience with the Team and in the playoffs.

The way the Thunder handle Roberson will be interesting this year. I assume they will match just about any offer sheet if it goes that way. He really needs to take 100 FT a day

I have no problem with that philosophy. The problem is that we paid some guys that haven't developed yet. The older they get, tbe slower and less probable that developement becomes.

As far as robes, those close to the team say he practices. I bet he takes more than 100 free throws a day. It doesn't seem to matter.

[Howard Cosell]

Twolves fan here:

Deing + Dunn +MN 2017 1st RD Pick (6th overall)
For
Adams + Sabonis +OKC 2017 1st RD Pick (21st overall)


What say you?

Why would you want Adams?

Adams at Center
Towns at PF
Wiggins at SF

Would be the Core I believe Thibs might want to run with for the next 4 years.

If not Dunn...how about LaVine?

Deing + LaVine + 6th pick overall

For

Adams + Sabonis + 21st pick overall


LaVine is injured but is expected to make full recovery. LaVine will give you a better scorer next to Westbrook than Oladipo. The Athleticism of Westbrook/LaVine Combo would be untouch in all of the NBA.

Something to think about. I do believe Thibs will ask Thunder Front Office about Adams.

[bondom34]

Twolves fan here:

Deing + Dunn +MN 2017 1st RD Pick (6th overall)
For
Adams + Sabonis +OKC 2017 1st RD Pick (21st overall)


What say you?

Why would you want Adams?

Adams at Center
Towns at PF
Wiggins at SF

Would be the Core I believe Thibs might want to run with for the next 4 years.

If not Dunn...how about LaVine?

Deing + LaVine + 6th pick overall

For

Adams + Sabonis + 21st pick overall


LaVine is injured but is expected to make full recovery. LaVine will give you a better scorer next to Westbrook than Oladipo. The Athleticism of Westbrook/LaVine Combo would be untouch in all of the NBA.

Something to think about. I do believe Thibs will ask Thunder Front Office about Adams.

I'd really doubt he's available honestly even after this season. Dipo I could see, but not him.

[ThunderBolt]

Twolves fan here:

Deing + Dunn +MN 2017 1st RD Pick (6th overall)
For
Adams + Sabonis +OKC 2017 1st RD Pick (21st overall)


What say you?

Why would you want Adams?

Adams at Center
Towns at PF
Wiggins at SF

Would be the Core I believe Thibs might want to run with for the next 4 years.

If not Dunn...how about LaVine?

Deing + LaVine + 6th pick overall

For

Adams + Sabonis + 21st pick overall


LaVine is injured but is expected to make full recovery. LaVine will give you a better scorer next to Westbrook than Oladipo. The Athleticism of Westbrook/LaVine Combo would be untouch in all of the NBA.

Something to think about. I do believe Thibs will ask Thunder Front Office about Adams.

He is what people should think about. Suppose we do that trade.
Dieng is cheaper than Adams. He's not horrible and maybe he's eventually moved again.

Dunn for sabonis is unknown. We are trading one unproven asset for another.

The key is the 6th pick. Could that pick be traded after it's drafted along with Oladipo or something to move to pursue a second option?

[ThunderBolt]

Why would you want Adams?

Adams at Center
Towns at PF
Wiggins at SF

Would be the Core I believe Thibs might want to run with for the next 4 years.

If not Dunn...how about LaVine?

Deing + LaVine + 6th pick overall

For

Adams + Sabonis + 21st pick overall


LaVine is injured but is expected to make full recovery. LaVine will give you a better scorer next to Westbrook than Oladipo. The Athleticism of Westbrook/LaVine Combo would be untouch in all of the NBA.

Something to think about. I do believe Thibs will ask Thunder Front Office about Adams.

I'd really doubt he's available honestly even after this season. Dipo I could see, but not him.

Probably right.

[Howard Cosell]

Why would you want Adams?

Adams at Center
Towns at PF
Wiggins at SF

Would be the Core I believe Thibs might want to run with for the next 4 years.

If not Dunn...how about LaVine?

Deing + LaVine + 6th pick overall

For

Adams + Sabonis + 21st pick overall


LaVine is injured but is expected to make full recovery. LaVine will give you a better scorer next to Westbrook than Oladipo. The Athleticism of Westbrook/LaVine Combo would be untouch in all of the NBA.

Something to think about. I do believe Thibs will ask Thunder Front Office about Adams.

I'd really doubt he's available honestly even after this season. Dipo I could see, but not him.

With Dipo's extension I just don't see him as a valuable piece to get something back in return. But will see..and no doubt Thunder fans would want to see if they could get something for Dipo before using Adams in a trade.

[bondom34]

Adams at Center
Towns at PF
Wiggins at SF

Would be the Core I believe Thibs might want to run with for the next 4 years.

If not Dunn...how about LaVine?

Deing + LaVine + 6th pick overall

For

Adams + Sabonis + 21st pick overall


LaVine is injured but is expected to make full recovery. LaVine will give you a better scorer next to Westbrook than Oladipo. The Athleticism of Westbrook/LaVine Combo would be untouch in all of the NBA.

Something to think about. I do believe Thibs will ask Thunder Front Office about Adams.

I'd really doubt he's available honestly even after this season. Dipo I could see, but not him.

With Dipo's extension I just don't see him as a valuable piece to get something back in return. But will see..and no doubt Thunder fans would want to see if they could get something for Dipo before using Adams in a trade.

It was also something Presti mentioned shortly ago. Adams and Russ are the core essentially. The rest weren't mentioned.

[Andre Roberstan]

I'd really doubt he's available honestly even after this season. Dipo I could see, but not him.

With Dipo's extension I just don't see him as a valuable piece to get something back in return. But will see..and no doubt Thunder fans would want to see if they could get something for Dipo before using Adams in a trade.

It was also something Presti mentioned shortly ago. Adams and Russ are the core essentially. The rest weren't mentioned.

Also what Royce has been saying. I think Katz and Horne too.

[tleikheen]

Here's a good trade .....Carmelo Anthony for Enes Kanter & Oladipo

Melo can be a big 3 with Westbrook and Adams,keep Sabonis at PF and slide Roberson to SG

Kanter could pair up with Porzingis and Oladipo helps NY get younger

[Thundershock88]

Adams and Oladipo just committed to this franchise. I honestly don't see Presti moving either one. I think we trade Kanter, and lose Roberson and Taj. We move Dakari up and draft a small forward.

[hardenASG13]

Yeah there are teams that have 5 players better than the 2nd best player on the Thunder. You can't just snap your fingers and add all star players. They have to grow the team organically.

Dipo was not the cause for this lost series. But, he also was not the solution. If the Thunder trade him, with a young player and get a star sure pull the trigger. But, I don't see that happening.

The Thunder have a nice group off the bench having McDermott, Abrines, and Grant on the bench all having some experience with the Team and in the playoffs.

The way the Thunder handle Roberson will be interesting this year. I assume they will match just about any offer sheet if it goes that way. He really needs to take 100 FT a day

I have no problem with that philosophy. The problem is that we paid some guys that haven't developed yet. The older they get, tbe slower and less probable that developement becomes.

As far as robes, those close to the team say he practices. I bet he takes more than 100 free throws a day. It doesn't seem to matter.

Yea I don't see why anyone would give a star for any combination of thunder players not involving Westbrook. Would Indiana want to commit 180 mill over the next 4 years for oladipo and adams for Paul george?no way, same for every other available star.

As for Roberson, I find it funny that people think he, or other players, can fix their ft shooting with practice. Of course he practices them, and his other shots. It's mental when you are below 50% at the line, even at the high school varsity level. In the NBA it's a joke. He doesn't have confidence to shoot a foul shot or attempt a pull up jumper. NBA players practice and play basketball all the time, it's their job.

[Andre Roberstan]

Here's a good trade .....Carmelo Anthony for Enes Kanter & Oladipo

Melo can be a big 3 with Westbrook and Adams,keep Sabonis at PF and slide Roberson to SG

Kanter could pair up with Porzingis and Oladipo helps NY get younger

Melo isn't waiving his no-trade clause to play in OKC.

[ThunderBolt]

8-) Adams and Oladipo just committed to this franchise. I honestly don't see Presti moving either one. I think we trade Kanter, and lose Roberson and Taj. We move Dakari up and draft a small forward.

Oladipo committing isn't the same as okc committing to him. I could see Adams doing better if there were a player how gave enough spacing for PNR. That was actually effective and the beginning of the season and disappeared.

The problem is I see everyone saying we are committed to Adams. Probably need to re-sign robes. Will have to move Kanter to keep Dre. Taj likely won't be back. Can't get anything good for dipo...if all that's true we will have the same team minus Taj and Kanter. Bye bye playoffs.

[Thundershock88]

8-) Adams and Oladipo just committed to this franchise. I honestly don't see Presti moving either one. I think we trade Kanter, and lose Roberson and Taj. We move Dakari up and draft a small forward.

Oladipo committing isn't the same as okc committing to him. I could see Adams doing better if there were a player how gave enough spacing for PNR. That was actually effective and the beginning of the season and disappeared.

The problem is I see everyone saying we are committed to Adams. Probably need to re-sign robes. Will have to move Kanter to keep Dre. Taj likely won't be back. Can't get anything good for dipo...if all that's true we will have the same team minus Taj and Kanter. Bye bye playoffs.

Unfortunately, I think that's the most likely scenario. There's not a quick fix for this.

[ThunderBolt]

I'm beyond frustrated and sick when I think about running the same team back next year except all of these guys will be getting paid.
On a positive note, I like what I saw from Grant as the series played out. He made his share of mistakes but showed me that me might be a solid rotational player.

[spearsy23]

I'm beyond frustrated and sick when I think about running the same team back next year except all of these guys will be getting paid.
On a positive note, I like what I saw from Grant as the series played out. He made his share of mistakes but showed me that me might be a solid rotational player.

For the first time all year I feel good about grant. Still would've rather had ilyasova though.

[Balkman32]

Here's a good trade .....Carmelo Anthony for Enes Kanter & Oladipo

Melo can be a big 3 with Westbrook and Adams,keep Sabonis at PF and slide Roberson to SG

Kanter could pair up with Porzingis and Oladipo helps NY get younger

Melo isn't waiving his no-trade clause to play in OKC.

He can get a stripper preggers in OKC. It actually makes some sense, but the Thunder are not trying to bring in a 32 year old. They need to get guys around Westbrook's age.

[Funcrusher]

So, uh, yeah, does anyone still think Oladipo/McDermott for any combination of a Covington, McConnell, Holmes is a bad idea? I still think it's possible if Presti actually pursues the issue, which he probably won't. I agree with Kizz, I think OKC, as improbable as it may be, should clear space and reconstruct the roster, even if that means initially getting worse returns, so they can pursue a star free agent.

Honestly, I think Russ is a player designed to have another ball dominant playmaker #2 option. All the attention paid to TWO unstoppable offensive forces would suddenly make it easier for role players to get open looks, play to their strengths. That was basically the blueprint with KD and Russ, though I think that failed because at a certain point, it wasn't clear who should dominate the offense in crunch time minutes, and also the role players were still mostly defense oriented.

It's clear now that Russ should be the #1 option on a championship team, and presti needs to construct a roster that would complement a Russ/Blake, or Russ/Millsap, or Russ/George tandem, these just being a few examples. That starts with a solid backup pg, a solid wing player that gives you, at the very least, 3&D, and an at least passable backup center. We have none of those things, and even the last few years KD was here we haven't had that. If we don't end up getting a Blake, Millsap or George, getting rid of an Oladipo, and most definitely Kanter, for pieces that better fit our ideal offense would still be a win in my eyes.

For those that say trading Oladipo for a different position would fix one hole, and create a new one at SG, I'd counter and say that, on the positive spectrum, it would provide Abrines, who has a higher upside than VO IMO, the opportunity to play in the starting rotation and continue to develop his game. Any way you slice it, this roster needs some serious retooling, and inevitably not every move will bring immediate returns, but inactivity this offseason is not an option. If Presti doesn't attempt to fix the problems with this team now, given the nature of the contracts he has given guys like Adams/Oladipo/Kanter, we will most likely be stuck in purgatory for a long time, with or without Russ deciding to leave down the road.