Trade Ideas, AKA Please God Bring Us Shooters

Moderators: Dadouv47, retrobro90

User avatar
Osirus89
Starter
Posts: 2,148
And1: 2,017
Joined: Nov 23, 2016
   

Re: Trade Ideas, AKA Please God Bring Us Shooters 

Post#1781 » by Osirus89 » Wed Jan 30, 2019 3:14 am

Dn4sty wrote:
Osirus89 wrote:
ThunderBolt wrote:I guess the question I have is, is it possible to beat the warriors without adding another superstar. Even if we add some really nice role players for relatively cheap, how close does that get us? This is especially true as long as Russ keeps bricking jumpers.


If you want to take solace in something, this is the last year that GS will be in this form. Cousin and Durant will both be gone after this season. As long as the Lakers don't build a super team in their place, the bar for success to survive the West will be lowered a bit. If this team is able to figure out what to do at the backup center spot if Noel leaves, find a bench shooter, and pray Andre comes back and can be somewhat effective, the team won't really drop off much.

Getting a bench guy that will can be kept around on a modest contract should be the focus for Presti and the FO. They just need someone to occupy the Diallo and Abrines minutes for the rest of this season and going forward.


Cousins yes...KD not sure


I'm pretty sure he's leaving. The Draymond blow up thing. All the noise about his free agency. It feels like his last season in OKC. I don't have the foggiest what team he will go to (one of the LA teams or one of the NY teams), but there have been bread crumbs. I just hope NO doesn't cave to the Lakers and allow them to form a new super team.
Balkman32
Lead Assistant
Posts: 4,825
And1: 808
Joined: Jul 19, 2007
 

Re: Trade Ideas, AKA Please God Bring Us Shooters 

Post#1782 » by Balkman32 » Wed Jan 30, 2019 2:06 pm

slick_watts wrote:dennis schroder, terrance ferguson and hamidou diallo for tim hardaway jr.


No Thanks.
JustOneFix
Analyst
Posts: 3,366
And1: 408
Joined: Nov 07, 2006
Location: Eastern Europe
 

Re: Trade Ideas, AKA Please God Bring Us Shooters 

Post#1783 » by JustOneFix » Wed Jan 30, 2019 2:07 pm

Paterson, Abrines, 2nd's for Mirotic please.
Balkman32
Lead Assistant
Posts: 4,825
And1: 808
Joined: Jul 19, 2007
 

Re: Trade Ideas, AKA Please God Bring Us Shooters 

Post#1784 » by Balkman32 » Wed Jan 30, 2019 2:09 pm

Schroder and TLC for Terrence Ross and Jerian (Jerami's brother) Grant
Balkman32
Lead Assistant
Posts: 4,825
And1: 808
Joined: Jul 19, 2007
 

Re: Trade Ideas, AKA Please God Bring Us Shooters 

Post#1785 » by Balkman32 » Wed Jan 30, 2019 2:15 pm

Dadouv47 wrote:So what kind of package could be enough for the Pelicans to send us Mirotic? He will not be THAT cheap in my opinion (I imagine many teams are trying to get him, like the Rockets for example)


It would have to be something around Mirotic for Abrines, Patterson, and TLC. Unless they want Schroder.

But, the Pel's want picks not guys who wont be on their playoff roster in 2022. But, the Thunder would need to send out these salaries to get him. Maybe add the 2020 and/or 2021 second round pick. I feel that there will be a team that can beat that offer.

After a bad start of the season for Patterson he is hitting 43% from three in January. I am thinking in the difference in salaries that we would probably roll with Patterson, since you wouldn't get much on the defensive end from Mirotic.
User avatar
SecondTake
Veteran
Posts: 2,671
And1: 1,493
Joined: Jun 03, 2017

Re: Trade Ideas, AKA Please God Bring Us Shooters 

Post#1786 » by SecondTake » Wed Jan 30, 2019 3:22 pm

Osirus89 wrote:
ThunderBolt wrote:I guess the question I have is, is it possible to beat the warriors without adding another superstar. Even if we add some really nice role players for relatively cheap, how close does that get us? This is especially true as long as Russ keeps bricking jumpers.


If you want to take solace in something, this is the last year that GS will be in this form. Cousin and Durant will both be gone after this season. As long as the Lakers don't build a super team in their place, the bar for success to survive the West will be lowered a bit. If this team is able to figure out what to do at the backup center spot if Noel leaves, find a bench shooter, and pray Andre comes back and can be somewhat effective, the team won't really drop off much.

Getting a bench guy that will can be kept around on a modest contract should be the focus for Presti and the FO. They just need someone to occupy the Diallo and Abrines minutes for the rest of this season and going forward.


Any chance we keep Noel? He's been really solid as a backup center imo.
User avatar
SecondTake
Veteran
Posts: 2,671
And1: 1,493
Joined: Jun 03, 2017

Re: Trade Ideas, AKA Please God Bring Us Shooters 

Post#1787 » by SecondTake » Wed Jan 30, 2019 3:23 pm

Balkman32 wrote:Schroder and TLC for Terrence Ross and Jerian (Jerami's brother) Grant


Nah man, the Grants would start wielding too much power in the organization. We don't need a Lebron/Klutch combo in OKC.
User avatar
ThunderBolt
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 19,368
And1: 19,234
Joined: Dec 29, 2016
Location: Lynnwood, WA
   

Re: Trade Ideas, AKA Please God Bring Us Shooters 

Post#1788 » by ThunderBolt » Wed Jan 30, 2019 3:37 pm

SecondTake wrote:
Osirus89 wrote:
ThunderBolt wrote:I guess the question I have is, is it possible to beat the warriors without adding another superstar. Even if we add some really nice role players for relatively cheap, how close does that get us? This is especially true as long as Russ keeps bricking jumpers.


If you want to take solace in something, this is the last year that GS will be in this form. Cousin and Durant will both be gone after this season. As long as the Lakers don't build a super team in their place, the bar for success to survive the West will be lowered a bit. If this team is able to figure out what to do at the backup center spot if Noel leaves, find a bench shooter, and pray Andre comes back and can be somewhat effective, the team won't really drop off much.

Getting a bench guy that will can be kept around on a modest contract should be the focus for Presti and the FO. They just need someone to occupy the Diallo and Abrines minutes for the rest of this season and going forward.


Any chance we keep Noel? He's been really solid as a backup center imo.


No. We don't have his bird rights. Its similar to the Cousin's situation in that he was willing to take a one year pay cut to rebuild his value. He'll be looking for more money than we can pay him.
bisme37 wrote:If there were magnets in basketballs so strong they changed the path of the ball as it flew through the air, wouldn't the ball then stick magnetically to the rim when it got there?
Balkman32
Lead Assistant
Posts: 4,825
And1: 808
Joined: Jul 19, 2007
 

Re: Trade Ideas, AKA Please God Bring Us Shooters 

Post#1789 » by Balkman32 » Wed Jan 30, 2019 4:33 pm

ThunderBolt wrote:
SecondTake wrote:
Osirus89 wrote:
If you want to take solace in something, this is the last year that GS will be in this form. Cousin and Durant will both be gone after this season. As long as the Lakers don't build a super team in their place, the bar for success to survive the West will be lowered a bit. If this team is able to figure out what to do at the backup center spot if Noel leaves, find a bench shooter, and pray Andre comes back and can be somewhat effective, the team won't really drop off much.

Getting a bench guy that will can be kept around on a modest contract should be the focus for Presti and the FO. They just need someone to occupy the Diallo and Abrines minutes for the rest of this season and going forward.


Any chance we keep Noel? He's been really solid as a backup center imo.


No. We don't have his bird rights. Its similar to the Cousin's situation in that he was willing to take a one year pay cut to rebuild his value. He'll be looking for more money than we can pay him.


The Thunder could sign him to the tax payers mid level exception @ 3 years $17.7 million. But, that's the most the Thunder can pay him. While there were will be teams under the cap willing to pay more per year and go to a 4 year contract.

The Thunder will have to rebuild the bench unit next year because Patterson could opt out, Abrines will be an RFA, Noel and Felton are UFA's. But, it might have a good start of Schroder, Robinson & Diallo.
User avatar
SecondTake
Veteran
Posts: 2,671
And1: 1,493
Joined: Jun 03, 2017

Re: Trade Ideas, AKA Please God Bring Us Shooters 

Post#1790 » by SecondTake » Wed Jan 30, 2019 4:39 pm

Balkman32 wrote:
ThunderBolt wrote:
SecondTake wrote:
Any chance we keep Noel? He's been really solid as a backup center imo.


No. We don't have his bird rights. Its similar to the Cousin's situation in that he was willing to take a one year pay cut to rebuild his value. He'll be looking for more money than we can pay him.


The Thunder could sign him to the tax payers mid level exception @ 3 years $17.7 million. But, that's the most the Thunder can pay him. While there were will be teams under the cap willing to pay more per year and go to a 4 year contract.

The Thunder will have to rebuild the bench unit next year because Patterson could opt out, Abrines will be an RFA, Noel and Felton are UFA's. But, it might have a good start of Schroder, Robinson & Diallo.


Anyone going to offer him 4 years at that kind of money with his history?
Balkman32
Lead Assistant
Posts: 4,825
And1: 808
Joined: Jul 19, 2007
 

Re: Trade Ideas, AKA Please God Bring Us Shooters 

Post#1791 » by Balkman32 » Wed Jan 30, 2019 4:57 pm

SecondTake wrote:
Balkman32 wrote:
ThunderBolt wrote:
No. We don't have his bird rights. Its similar to the Cousin's situation in that he was willing to take a one year pay cut to rebuild his value. He'll be looking for more money than we can pay him.


The Thunder could sign him to the tax payers mid level exception @ 3 years $17.7 million. But, that's the most the Thunder can pay him. While there were will be teams under the cap willing to pay more per year and go to a 4 year contract.

The Thunder will have to rebuild the bench unit next year because Patterson could opt out, Abrines will be an RFA, Noel and Felton are UFA's. But, it might have a good start of Schroder, Robinson & Diallo.


Anyone going to offer him 4 years at that kind of money with his history?


He is a 25 year old that can protect the rim. I am sure ATL would like to pair him with Collins. Washington could use a 5 that can protect the rim. Golden State could use him to replace Boogie. I think he has shown in his half year here that he can be counted on as a starting center in this league. I think he will get around $5 million a year. Maybe the Thunder could keep him at the mid-level. But, I am sure he would want a chance to start and that's just not happening here.
Dadouv47
Forum Mod - Thunder
Forum Mod - Thunder
Posts: 13,427
And1: 7,563
Joined: Mar 22, 2015
   

Re: Trade Ideas, AKA Please God Bring Us Shooters 

Post#1792 » by Dadouv47 » Wed Jan 30, 2019 5:15 pm

Balkman32 wrote:
SecondTake wrote:
Balkman32 wrote:
The Thunder could sign him to the tax payers mid level exception @ 3 years $17.7 million. But, that's the most the Thunder can pay him. While there were will be teams under the cap willing to pay more per year and go to a 4 year contract.

The Thunder will have to rebuild the bench unit next year because Patterson could opt out, Abrines will be an RFA, Noel and Felton are UFA's. But, it might have a good start of Schroder, Robinson & Diallo.


Anyone going to offer him 4 years at that kind of money with his history?


He is a 25 year old that can protect the rim. I am sure ATL would like to pair him with Collins. Washington could use a 5 that can protect the rim. Golden State could use him to replace Boogie. I think he has shown in his half year here that he can be counted on as a starting center in this league. I think he will get around $5 million a year. Maybe the Thunder could keep him at the mid-level. But, I am sure he would want a chance to start and that's just not happening here.


Money is indeed the biggest issue to keep him. I think he's happy in OKC but he passed on a 70 million dollars deal so he will definitely take the best deal he can get
Balkman32
Lead Assistant
Posts: 4,825
And1: 808
Joined: Jul 19, 2007
 

Re: Trade Ideas, AKA Please God Bring Us Shooters 

Post#1793 » by Balkman32 » Wed Jan 30, 2019 6:42 pm

Dadouv47 wrote:
Balkman32 wrote:
SecondTake wrote:
Anyone going to offer him 4 years at that kind of money with his history?


He is a 25 year old that can protect the rim. I am sure ATL would like to pair him with Collins. Washington could use a 5 that can protect the rim. Golden State could use him to replace Boogie. I think he has shown in his half year here that he can be counted on as a starting center in this league. I think he will get around $5 million a year. Maybe the Thunder could keep him at the mid-level. But, I am sure he would want a chance to start and that's just not happening here.


Money is indeed the biggest issue to keep him. I think he's happy in OKC but he passed on a 70 million dollars deal so he will definitely take the best deal he can get


I can't believe he turned down 4 years $70 million. and Signed a one year deal for the vet min. This has to be the worst rejected contract offer of all time. Right?
Thunder Up
Senior
Posts: 616
And1: 197
Joined: Jun 26, 2017
 

Re: Trade Ideas, AKA Please God Bring Us Shooters 

Post#1794 » by Thunder Up » Wed Jan 30, 2019 7:04 pm

Nerlens will be back with the team for the MLE
Balkman32
Lead Assistant
Posts: 4,825
And1: 808
Joined: Jul 19, 2007
 

Re: Trade Ideas, AKA Please God Bring Us Shooters 

Post#1795 » by Balkman32 » Wed Jan 30, 2019 8:53 pm

Thunder Up wrote:Nerlens will be back with the team for the MLE


He is an option. But, I wouldn't put money on it. You can find some good value in players at the center position. While getting a shooters should be prioritized in using the MLE.
Mattv
Junior
Posts: 322
And1: 33
Joined: Oct 31, 2018
         

Re: Trade Ideas, AKA Please God Bring Us Shooters 

Post#1796 » by Mattv » Thu Jan 31, 2019 12:46 am

Does anyone think something like this could work?

Okc Dallas NO

Okc AD , Solomon Hill and E.Payton

Dallas Jrue Holiday, Abrines, Okafor and Diallo.

No Adam's, H.Barnes, W. Matthews, D.Smith jr and TLC and a 1st from Okc?

Sent from my SM-G930T using RealGM mobile app
Dadouv47
Forum Mod - Thunder
Forum Mod - Thunder
Posts: 13,427
And1: 7,563
Joined: Mar 22, 2015
   

Re: Trade Ideas, AKA Please God Bring Us Shooters 

Post#1797 » by Dadouv47 » Thu Jan 31, 2019 1:26 am

Mattv wrote:Does anyone think something like this could work?

Okc Dallas NO

Okc AD , Solomon Hill and E.Payton

Dallas Jrue Holiday, Abrines, Okafor and Diallo.

No Adam's, H.Barnes, W. Matthews, D.Smith jr and TLC and a 1st from Okc?

Sent from my SM-G930T using RealGM mobile app


Never. Harrison Barnes has a 25 millions dollars option for next year, Matthews will be free agent and it would be a late 1st pick.
Dadouv47
Forum Mod - Thunder
Forum Mod - Thunder
Posts: 13,427
And1: 7,563
Joined: Mar 22, 2015
   

Re: Trade Ideas, AKA Please God Bring Us Shooters 

Post#1798 » by Dadouv47 » Thu Jan 31, 2019 1:28 am

Dadouv47 wrote:
Mattv wrote:Does anyone think something like this could work?

Okc Dallas NO

Okc AD , Solomon Hill and E.Payton

Dallas Jrue Holiday, Abrines, Okafor and Diallo.

No Adam's, H.Barnes, W. Matthews, D.Smith jr and TLC and a 1st from Okc?

Sent from my SM-G930T using RealGM mobile app


Never. Harrison Barnes has a 25 millions dollars option for next year, Matthews will be free agent and it would be a late 1st pick.


It would be better for NOLA to trade AD for Adams than doing this trade.
NYG
RealGM
Posts: 15,070
And1: 3,000
Joined: Aug 09, 2017

Re: Trade Ideas, AKA Please God Bring Us Shooters 

Post#1799 » by NYG » Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:56 am

Andre Roberson and Terrance Ferguson for E’Twaun Moore? Lots of financial gain.
Dn4sty
Analyst
Posts: 3,477
And1: 1,929
Joined: Apr 11, 2017

Re: Trade Ideas, AKA Please God Bring Us Shooters 

Post#1800 » by Dn4sty » Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:45 am

NYG wrote:Andre Roberson and Terrance Ferguson for E’Twaun Moore? Lots of financial gain.


Not close. Ferguson has been hitting 3s at a crazy high rate the last month-ish. He’s also not getting credit for the defense he plays.

I’d bank on Roberson returning to form, and he future of Ferguson rather than saving money.

Even if Roberson doesn’t return to pre injury form, Ferguson is FAR too valuable

Return to Oklahoma City Thunder