2018-2019 OKC Thunder Regular Season Pt 1: A Renewed Hope

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Post#1801 » by getrichordie » Wed Dec 19, 2018 1:06 am

It seems like anytime someone has a logical criticism of Westbrook, everyone is up in arms about it.

You can still support your favorite player and recognize that he’s worse in some areas this year.

It can’t be that hard, can it?


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Post#1802 » by bondom34 » Wed Dec 19, 2018 1:09 am

He's not turning the ball over more.
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Post#1803 » by getrichordie » Wed Dec 19, 2018 2:57 am

Westbrook is certainly turning the ball over more relative to his usage. That’s what TOV% is.


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Post#1804 » by bondom34 » Wed Dec 19, 2018 3:07 am

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Post#1805 » by getrichordie » Wed Dec 19, 2018 3:14 am

Turnover Percentage (available since the 1977-78 season in the NBA); the formula is 100 * TOV / (FGA + 0.44 * FTA + TOV). Turnover percentage is an estimate of turnovers per 100 plays.


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Post#1806 » by bondom34 » Wed Dec 19, 2018 3:21 am

Gonna be one of those things where I can't click to view posts anymore because it's too funny.
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Post#1807 » by wco81 » Wed Dec 19, 2018 4:00 am

WB looked pretty springy in the highlights for the game against the Bulls.

Though of course they're not the best defense so he may have had several running starts at the rim.
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Post#1808 » by getrichordie » Wed Dec 19, 2018 5:15 am

Not sure why some feel the need to stoop to condescension when disagreeing with others’ opinions. It’s quite childish.


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Post#1809 » by bondom34 » Wed Dec 19, 2018 5:18 am

Like quoting definitions of something you just learned :wink:. Bye now
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Post#1810 » by bondom34 » Wed Dec 19, 2018 7:53 am

Unrelated but never realized Darnell's old hate of Russ wasn't just a Thunder media thing. Dude really seriously does NOT like him at all.
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Post#1811 » by spearsy23 » Wed Dec 19, 2018 9:43 am

bondom34 wrote:Unrelated but never realized Darnell's old hate of Russ wasn't just a Thunder media thing. Dude really seriously does NOT like him at all.

Trying to frame that dust up as his fault AND a good thing for the bulls was hilarious. Yeah, they totally showed toughness in that game, except in ever single area where it matters.
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
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Post#1812 » by getrichordie » Wed Dec 19, 2018 10:05 am

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bondom34 wrote:Unrelated but never realized Darnell's old hate of Russ wasn't just a Thunder media thing. Dude really seriously does NOT like him at all.

Trying to frame that dust up as his fault AND a good thing for the bulls was hilarious. Yeah, they totally showed toughness in that game, except in ever single area where it matters.


I’m just going to ask a simple question.

Did Westbrook shove Dunn?


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Post#1813 » by spearsy23 » Wed Dec 19, 2018 10:23 am

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bondom34 wrote:Unrelated but never realized Darnell's old hate of Russ wasn't just a Thunder media thing. Dude really seriously does NOT like him at all.

Trying to frame that dust up as his fault AND a good thing for the bulls was hilarious. Yeah, they totally showed toughness in that game, except in ever single area where it matters.


I’m just going to ask a simple question.

Did Westbrook shove Dunn?


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Westbrook shoved him to get separation from him like happens hundreds of times per night in NBA games across the country. Then Dunn overreacted, and rolo just went nuts.
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Post#1814 » by getrichordie » Wed Dec 19, 2018 10:30 am

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spearsy23 wrote:Trying to frame that dust up as his fault AND a good thing for the bulls was hilarious. Yeah, they totally showed toughness in that game, except in ever single area where it matters.


I’m just going to ask a simple question.

Did Westbrook shove Dunn?


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Westbrook shoved him to get separation from him like happens hundreds of times per night in NBA games across the country. Then Dunn overreacted, and rolo just went nuts.


I feel like these “shove-offs” are a little more nuanced than that. Not agreeing or disagreeing either way. Just making an observation. There seems to be other examples of players getting annoyed or frustrated with an excessive amount of shoving.

I’ve had that same thing happen to me in on the court, albeit not an NBA court. From my own personal experience, I can tell you that some “shove-offs” are more provoking than others.

Just playing a little Devil’s advocate.


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Post#1815 » by slick_watts » Wed Dec 19, 2018 1:34 pm

getrichordie wrote:Not sure why some feel the need to stoop to condescension when disagreeing with others’ opinions. It’s quite childish.


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you should check out the glossary on bbr for the other stuff. you get a sense for what the statistics are actually measuring. whether or not you agree with bondom, i don't think it's appropriate for anyone to shame another person for learning anything. it's not like the definition of tov% is contingent one whether or not you learned it today or five years ago.

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Post#1816 » by bondom34 » Wed Dec 19, 2018 2:53 pm

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getrichordie wrote:
spearsy23 wrote:Trying to frame that dust up as his fault AND a good thing for the bulls was hilarious. Yeah, they totally showed toughness in that game, except in ever single area where it matters.


I’m just going to ask a simple question.

Did Westbrook shove Dunn?


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Westbrook shoved him to get separation from him like happens hundreds of times per night in NBA games across the country. Then Dunn overreacted, and rolo just went nuts.

He "dashed across the court" to shove Dunn.


Then he started swearing at him in the comments section, at which point I really started to question him. And that they embedded the video of it on the page when he's saying this.
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Post#1817 » by ThunderBolt » Wed Dec 19, 2018 7:45 pm

On the radio Royce was commenting about Russ’ ft shooting and said “it’s not a confidences issue but...”. Basically he said Russ is in his own head but wouldn’t say that the phrase “confidence issue”. I’m paraphrasing.
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Post#1818 » by Pillendreher » Wed Dec 19, 2018 10:08 pm

So we get hit with the double technical bull after Lopez loses his mind and now this:

Read on Twitter


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"I don't know of any player that, when the shot goes up, he doesn't want it to go in," Donovan said
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Post#1819 » by ThunderBolt » Wed Dec 19, 2018 10:19 pm

Seems strange that they are said to have left the bench area when the altercation happened on the bench.
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Post#1820 » by Pillendreher » Wed Dec 19, 2018 10:36 pm

Read on Twitter


Lightyears.
"I don't know of any player that, when the shot goes up, he doesn't want it to go in," Donovan said

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