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Post#1801 » by CROklahoma » Thu Jan 31, 2019 9:05 am

NYG wrote:Andre Roberson and Terrance Ferguson for E’Twaun Moore? Lots of financial gain.


What ?
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Post#1802 » by BlockCity » Thu Jan 31, 2019 11:58 am

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NYG wrote:Andre Roberson and Terrance Ferguson for E’Twaun Moore? Lots of financial gain.


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Post#1803 » by CROklahoma » Thu Jan 31, 2019 12:24 pm

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NYG wrote:Andre Roberson and Terrance Ferguson for E’Twaun Moore? Lots of financial gain.


What ?
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Post#1804 » by SecondTake » Thu Jan 31, 2019 2:24 pm

NYG wrote:Andre Roberson and Terrance Ferguson for E’Twaun Moore? Lots of financial gain.


Have you seen Ferguson play man?
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Post#1805 » by Pillendreher » Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:02 pm

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/25892346/new-orleans-pelicans-gm-dell-demps-returned-call-los-angeles-lakers-gm-anthony-davis

Demps is picking up his phone and returning calls -- just not from the Lakers, sources said. From Paul George to Leonard to Davis, the Lakers' front office is growing accustomed to icy receptions from teams enduring All-Star trade demands with a full year left on their contracts.


Demps for Executive Of The Year.

Davis' plan is to treat any trade destination as a one-year stop -- except, of course, the Lakers. Teams are learning that Davis' stated intention will be to play the season elsewhere if traded outside of the Lakers, but move to the Lakers as a free agent in 2020.


Yawn. Get out of here with this nonsense. Like Davis is willing to waste years of his prime.

Starting last Friday -- when Davis made his request to the Pelicans -- several teams told ESPN that Demps had made forwards Nikola Mirotic, Julius Randle, and guard E'Twaun Moore available in trade talks. The Pelicans are continuing to explore the market value of those players, sources said.


Moore please.
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Post#1806 » by ThunderBolt » Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:33 pm

Pillendreher wrote:http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/25892346/new-orleans-pelicans-gm-dell-demps-returned-call-los-angeles-lakers-gm-anthony-davis

Demps is picking up his phone and returning calls -- just not from the Lakers, sources said. From Paul George to Leonard to Davis, the Lakers' front office is growing accustomed to icy receptions from teams enduring All-Star trade demands with a full year left on their contracts.


Demps for Executive Of The Year.

Davis' plan is to treat any trade destination as a one-year stop -- except, of course, the Lakers. Teams are learning that Davis' stated intention will be to play the season elsewhere if traded outside of the Lakers, but move to the Lakers as a free agent in 2020.


Yawn. Get out of here with this nonsense. Like Davis is willing to waste years of his prime.

Starting last Friday -- when Davis made his request to the Pelicans -- several teams told ESPN that Demps had made forwards Nikola Mirotic, Julius Randle, and guard E'Twaun Moore available in trade talks. The Pelicans are continuing to explore the market value of those players, sources said.


Moore please.
The Lakers don’t deserve Davis because they have been incompetent the last few years and their talent is not the best deal out there.
Furthermore small market front offices need to stick it to them even more. Davis can go to the Lakers when he’s a free agent and hope he and 36 year old LeBron can stay healthy enough for a western conference finals appearance.
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Post#1807 » by ThunderBolt » Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:38 pm

We need to make a serious offer for Jrue. Getting jrue and keeping Adams makes us a much better team than trading Adams and getting Davis. I don’t know if either are possible but I’m willing to go for it this year and depending on the results, rebuild next year or the year after if ownership is sick of spending.
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Post#1808 » by Dadouv47 » Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:39 pm

Somehow I want AD to join the lakers now because I kind of like Lebron and I don't want cupcake to join him (and if he join them then it would be hilarious). I also think he's not the better superstar fit for the lakers so I won't mind him going there. The lakers (and probably the Clippers as well) are going to sign great players this offseason anyway.
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Post#1809 » by Dadouv47 » Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:41 pm

ThunderBolt wrote:We need to make a serious offer for Jrue. Getting jrue and keeping Adams makes us a much better team than trading Adams and getting Davis. I don’t know if either are possible but I’m willing to go for it this year and depending on the results, rebuild next year or the year after if ownership is sick of spending.


I would love to have Jrue but we don't have the assets and I don't think Presti is willing to go all in this year and start the rebuild next year (otherwise he wouldn't have signed PG13 and I think he will try to get the best of Westbrook until he shoots under 10% from the free throw line)
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Post#1810 » by Dadouv47 » Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:47 pm

Schroeder/Abrines/Ferguson/Diallo and a first for Jrue and Ian Clark works. we just lose our all bench and I think NOLA can have better offers.
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Post#1811 » by Pillendreher » Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:51 pm

ThunderBolt wrote:We need to make a serious offer for Jrue. Getting jrue and keeping Adams makes us a much better team than trading Adams and getting Davis. I don’t know if either are possible but I’m willing to go for it this year and depending on the results, rebuild next year or the year after if ownership is sick of spending.


How though? I seriously disagree with some of the hype about him, but he is still a good player. They won't trade him for just anybody. Matchin salaries alone might be difficult.
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Post#1812 » by spearsy23 » Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:58 pm

Trading Ferguson at this point would hurt. I'm not dead set against it or anything, but it would still suck.
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
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Post#1813 » by SecondTake » Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:58 pm

Dadouv47 wrote:Schroeder/Abrines/Ferguson/Diallo and a first for Jrue and Ian Clark works. we just lose our all bench and I think NOLA can have better offers.


Gotta keep Ferg
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Post#1814 » by ThunderBolt » Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:58 pm

Dadouv47 wrote:
ThunderBolt wrote:We need to make a serious offer for Jrue. Getting jrue and keeping Adams makes us a much better team than trading Adams and getting Davis. I don’t know if either are possible but I’m willing to go for it this year and depending on the results, rebuild next year or the year after if ownership is sick of spending.


I would love to have Jrue but we don't have the assets and I don't think Presti is willing to go all in this year and start the rebuild next year (otherwise he wouldn't have signed PG13 and I think he will try to get the best of Westbrook until he shoots under 10% from the free throw line)



Most of these stats have been traded for two assets and change. Jrue has quite a bit left on his deal but he’s not as good as George, butler and Kawhi. I think Ferguson has really improved his value. It just depends on what new Orleans thinks of Diallo or a frp in 15 years. Let’s not forget how bad dipo played in the Houston series and I don’t think Sabonis was really part of the rotation. Is it likely? No but it’s not impossible.

We may never do a full tanking rebuild but we’ve got some tough decisions to make this summer. I say go for it if we can.. Jrue could play alongside Russ and play backup pg.
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Post#1815 » by ThunderBolt » Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:59 pm

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ThunderBolt wrote:We need to make a serious offer for Jrue. Getting jrue and keeping Adams makes us a much better team than trading Adams and getting Davis. I don’t know if either are possible but I’m willing to go for it this year and depending on the results, rebuild next year or the year after if ownership is sick of spending.


How though? I seriously disagree with some of the hype about him, but he is still a good player. They won't trade him for just anybody. Matchin salaries alone might be difficult.


It’s tough. We probably need a third team.
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Post#1816 » by ThunderBolt » Thu Jan 31, 2019 7:07 pm

If we think the Ferguson of the last few games is the player we have moving forward the rest of the year then we don’t trade him. He’s still crazy young and will likely still have some ups and downs. He has a bright future but I’m not sure if he’s completely arrived yet.
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Post#1817 » by Dn4sty » Thu Jan 31, 2019 7:11 pm

spearsy23 wrote:Trading Ferguson at this point would hurt. I'm not dead set against it or anything, but it would still suck.


I’m not necessarily opposed to it either, but does Ferg actually have real value around the league.

We obviously have a pretty decent price on him now, but does the rest of the NBA share this valuation?
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Post#1818 » by SecondTake » Thu Jan 31, 2019 7:37 pm

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spearsy23 wrote:Trading Ferguson at this point would hurt. I'm not dead set against it or anything, but it would still suck.


I’m not necessarily opposed to it either, but does Ferg actually have real value around the league.

We obviously have a pretty decent price on him now, but does the rest of the NBA share this valuation?


Doesn't matter because we're keeping him. He's going to take the torch once Wb and PG's stars begin to fade.
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Post#1819 » by Dadouv47 » Thu Jan 31, 2019 7:39 pm

ThunderBolt wrote:
Dadouv47 wrote:
ThunderBolt wrote:We need to make a serious offer for Jrue. Getting jrue and keeping Adams makes us a much better team than trading Adams and getting Davis. I don’t know if either are possible but I’m willing to go for it this year and depending on the results, rebuild next year or the year after if ownership is sick of spending.


I would love to have Jrue but we don't have the assets and I don't think Presti is willing to go all in this year and start the rebuild next year (otherwise he wouldn't have signed PG13 and I think he will try to get the best of Westbrook until he shoots under 10% from the free throw line)



Most of these stats have been traded for two assets and change. Jrue has quite a bit left on his deal but he’s not as good as George, butler and Kawhi. I think Ferguson has really improved his value. It just depends on what new Orleans thinks of Diallo or a frp in 15 years. Let’s not forget how bad dipo played in the Houston series and I don’t think Sabonis was really part of the rotation. Is it likely? No but it’s not impossible.

We may never do a full tanking rebuild but we’ve got some tough decisions to make this summer. I say go for it if we can.. Jrue could play alongside Russ and play backup pg.


I think players like Jrue or Bradley beal with 3 years left on their contracts have more value than PG13 with one year left.

Maybe we can get him but our only asset is Ferguson so it's a though decision and I'm not sure others GMs are so high on him.
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Post#1820 » by ThunderBolt » Thu Jan 31, 2019 7:43 pm

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spearsy23 wrote:Trading Ferguson at this point would hurt. I'm not dead set against it or anything, but it would still suck.


I’m not necessarily opposed to it either, but does Ferg actually have real value around the league.

We obviously have a pretty decent price on him now, but does the rest of the NBA share this valuation?

If gms base their opinions on RealGM general board than probably not. If they have scouting departments that pay attention to players then they should absolutely be taking notice.

He’s hitting his threes, playing good defense so he’s clearly not a stupid player. Couple that with his athleticism and that’s a pretty good asset. If he can do those things then it’s not unreasonable to think it shouldn’t be an issue to improve his other weaknesses. I’m not saying he’s Tatum but I don’t think I’m being a homer. I am still a little skeptical of his shooting.
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