2017 OKC Thunder Trade Discussion

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Re: 2017 OKC Thunder Trade Discussion 

Post#1921 » by ThunderBolt » Wed May 17, 2017 10:32 pm

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Knrstz wrote:There is no way to trade single players and upgrade our roster. Abrines alone wouldn't get us a good sf. He would have to be paired with a second player.


This is the problem. If you accept this truth then you must also accept that OKC can not improve the roster. That means you are accepting that OKC is capped out as a fringe playoff team. Very few fans can accept that reality. That is why most places you look you read Thunder fans talking about the greatness of Jerami Grant and his upside and how McDermott is going to be awesome and Kanter is a great center and that this team of young low ceiling players is going to emerge into greatness. I remember when Singler was a young player and how that worked out. Perry Jones and Jeremy Lamb were once young also and that worked great. Just 18 months ago it was Mitch McGary who was somehow going to turn into Blake Griffin. Semaj was supposed to be the second coming of Reggie Jackson.

I'm so glad all those young players worked out and OKC won a lot of playoff games with them as starters and key contributors.


If OKC can dump Kanter, make a good selection with # 21, possibly sign a guy like frank mason as a backup pg with a second round pick, and hope every single player gets a little better, that's their most realistic path to getting better. I'm not saying it's possible but it's more likely to me that happens than that we are able trade existing players for better players. I actually think Presti was being honest when he said that our path forward is with internal growth. It may not work but he knows that it's going to be unlikely we pull off great trades. The flip side of this is that there are always GM's that are in the hot seat that abandon their plans for a win-now move. Doubtful that happens but you never know.
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Re: 2017 OKC Thunder Trade Discussion 

Post#1922 » by Osirus89 » Wed May 17, 2017 11:59 pm

We should be able to poach guys on draft night from teams depending on what they select.
Boston will have way too many guards and Phoenix will have too many wings.

We get a backup pg and a decent wing, we can forget that McDermott and Semaj aren't very good.
We won't be able to afford Andre and taj so they have to choose one.
Get a nice player in the draft and send kanter packing. That wouldn't be the worst offseason.
There is no way to title contention unless we get really lucky, but there is no avenue to contention to all teams except GSW and Cleveland.

Raptors are debating keeping it together, so are the clippers. Jazz might lose Hayward and have to start over again with gobert.
Washington is flawed and Boston has no shot to win the title as long as Lebron is around. Memphis is aging.
Pacers WILL lose Paul George. How they lose him is up to them. We are dead even with Houston if our bench wasn't trash. All these teams are in the same limbo with Cavs and GSW running either conference.

Rebuilding would just cost the franchise money. Tanking teams only make good money in big markets. Even if teams aren't contenders, they still want to make money in the postseason. Its about money at the end of the day and the team makes more money now than they would if they tore it down and rebuilt. That is the definitive reason why Presti won't rebuild unless he has to.
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Post#1923 » by jambalaya » Fri May 19, 2017 4:47 am

Who might take Oladipo? NYK, maybe Nets... and probably nobody else.
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Post#1924 » by Dn4sty » Fri May 19, 2017 4:53 am

jambalaya wrote:Who might take Oladipo? NYK, maybe Nets... and probably nobody else.


Pacers
76ers
Dallas
Minnesota

But I wouldn't deal Dipo unless you could get Lavine Or obviously a super star (and I don't count Griffin as a super star)
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Post#1925 » by jambalaya » Fri May 19, 2017 5:05 am

I don't see Minny doing it right away. Sixers probably want to save cap room to retain guys or get a star. Dallas might do Matthews for Dipo but I doubt Presti would. Pacers? If the trade George maybe. If not, I doubt it.
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Post#1926 » by spearsy23 » Fri May 19, 2017 5:33 am

Lavine for dipo makes a ton of sense.
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
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Post#1927 » by Pillendreher » Fri May 19, 2017 10:02 am

Pickswap with Minny and Dipo for Lavine. You hear it here first.
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Post#1928 » by ThunderBolt » Fri May 19, 2017 10:38 am

Pillendreher wrote:Pickswap with Minny and Dipo for Lavine. You hear it here first.


I like that idea but do you really think Minnesota would go for that?
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Post#1929 » by spearsy23 » Fri May 19, 2017 10:58 am

Knrstz wrote:
Pillendreher wrote:Pickswap with Minny and Dipo for Lavine. You hear it here first.


I like that idea but do you really think Minnesota would go for that?

I don't.
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“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
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Re: 2017 OKC Thunder Trade Discussion 

Post#1930 » by ThunderBolt » Fri May 19, 2017 11:00 am

spearsy23 wrote:
Knrstz wrote:
Pillendreher wrote:Pickswap with Minny and Dipo for Lavine. You hear it here first.


I like that idea but do you really think Minnesota would go for that?

I don't.
Lavine/Jones/2018 2nd for vic


That's not horrible. Oladipo for number 7 would be nice too. The thread I'm seeing in the T&T board shows that Oladipo for #7 wouldn't be enough. If we got Isaac or Monk at 7 am would be pretty happy.
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Post#1931 » by Andre Roberstan » Fri May 19, 2017 3:34 pm

jambalaya wrote:Who might take Oladipo? NYK, maybe Nets... and probably nobody else.

Considering the money the Nets offered Clarkson and Bumpy Johnson last year, they'd trip over themselves for Dipo.
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Post#1932 » by Balkman32 » Fri May 19, 2017 4:19 pm

Highly doubt they deal Dipo. They just signed him he is 24 and is getting better. I think they give him a shot to make it happen here.
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Post#1933 » by Balkman32 » Fri May 19, 2017 4:47 pm

Would you deal Abrines, McDermott, Sabonis, Grant and #21 for PG13?
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Post#1934 » by NaturalThunder » Fri May 19, 2017 4:50 pm

Balkman32 wrote:Would you deal Abrines, McDermott, Sabonis, Grant and #21 for PG13?

Absolutely. Unfortunately, the Pacers would laugh in our faces if we tried to make that trade offer. That's two bad players, two young below average players with some promise but not a lot, and a late-ish 1st round pick.
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Post#1935 » by Balkman32 » Fri May 19, 2017 4:52 pm

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Balkman32 wrote:Would you deal Abrines, McDermott, Sabonis, Grant and #21 for PG13?

Absolutely. Unfortunately, the Pacers would laugh in our faces if we tried to make that trade offer. That's two bad players, two young below average players with some promise but not a lot, and a late-ish 1st round pick.


What do you think they can got for a guy whos looking to sign with the Lakers next off season.
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Post#1936 » by Andre Roberstan » Fri May 19, 2017 5:06 pm

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Post#1937 » by Rocket_Raccoon » Fri May 19, 2017 5:22 pm

Knicks fan coming in peace, just gauging trade interest for trade ideas (which I like conjuring up).

Do you guys have any interest in trading for Melo? If yes, what would you be willing to part with?

If no, carry on and have a nice day :)
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Post#1938 » by Dn4sty » Fri May 19, 2017 5:27 pm

Rocket_Raccoon wrote:Knicks fan coming in peace, just gauging trade interest for trade ideas (which I like conjuring up).

Do you guys have any interest in trading for Melo? If yes, what would you be willing to part with?

If no, carry on and have a nice day :)


Kanter and Singler for Melo :)
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Post#1939 » by Andre Roberstan » Fri May 19, 2017 5:29 pm

Rocket_Raccoon wrote:Knicks fan coming in peace, just gauging trade interest for trade ideas (which I like conjuring up).

Do you guys have any interest in trading for Melo? If yes, what would you be willing to part with?

If no, carry on and have a nice day :)


I think opinion is kind of split, but I would trade for Melo.

Wouldn't give up a ton, though. Phil has done his utmost to completely kill his trade value. Kanter/McDermott and add value as needed? Depending on draft/FA could give Abrines.
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Post#1940 » by Rocket_Raccoon » Fri May 19, 2017 5:41 pm

Andre Roberstan wrote:
Rocket_Raccoon wrote:Knicks fan coming in peace, just gauging trade interest for trade ideas (which I like conjuring up).

Do you guys have any interest in trading for Melo? If yes, what would you be willing to part with?

If no, carry on and have a nice day :)


I think opinion is kind of split, but I would trade for Melo.

Wouldn't give up a ton, though. Phil has done his utmost to completely kill his trade value. Kanter/McDermott and add value as needed? Depending on draft/FA could give Abrines.


I was thinking something centered around Kanter as well, with us flipping him to a 3rd team (maybe like Portland) for some assets.

I feel like Kanter would be close to getting it done value wise...but if we included O'Quinn would you guys be willing to include your pick? Obviously not saying O'Quinn is worth the pick, but it's more to make up for the small gap in value I feel is still missing for us. He's a good, relatively young big on a really good contract, but with us having Noah under contract along with KP and Hernangomez, I don't see him getting many minutes for us. I can't think of anything else we can include for that.

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