OKC Thunder Offseason 2017: The Reshapening

[Andre Roberstan]

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And we're back to Sam Presti being trash.

Relax, it's a patient game we play

I of course know that it's just day two of the new season. But I hate this line of thinking so much:'Hey, let's act like our trash isn't trash'. No!

Royce is talking like he always does. If you think that's Presti's thinking I have some oceanfront property on I-35 I want to sell you.

[bondom34]

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That's good at least.

[Pillendreher]

Relax, it's a patient game we play

I of course know that it's just day two of the new season. But I hate this line of thinking so much:'Hey, let's act like our trash isn't trash'. No!

Royce is talking like he always does. If you think that's Presti's thinking I have some oceanfront property on I-35 I want to sell you.

Meh. We held onto Sabonis for too long last season too. Wouldn't be the first time we enter a season with an unsolved positional problem.

I could totally see this. Royce even wrote about it yesterday, saying the Thunder were excited about the George-Grant pairing.

[slick_watts]

royce is less than 24 hours removed from telling us presti 'wasn't done yet', less than 12 hours removed from 'rudy gay being close', less than 2 hours removed from proposing an impossible sign and trade taj gibson scenario, etc.

he's just reacting to the same news we are and pushing out content. it's his job.

[slick_watts]

I could totally see this. Royce even wrote about it yesterday, saying the Thunder were excited about the George-Grant pairing.

was he 97% sure of that?

[slick_watts]

this is how the thunder local media reacts to everything. when there are reports of thunder interest in a player- talk about all the possible ways it can happen, talk about how the thunder are 'interested' and where that player would fit, etc. etc. when the player leaves and the reactionary optimism peters out start talking about how it was all so unrealistic anyway, include all the reasons it'd be difficult, etc.

they really don't know what they are talking about. fred katz just tweeted something about whether or not the thunder could 'convince' rudy gay to take the mle or less. this is hours after woj expressed the difficulty the thunder had arranging a sign and trade with the kings. so which one is it?

i put zero stock into katz or royce or any of them reporting on meetings or who or what the thunder are interested in / their motivations.

[ThunderBolt]

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And we're back to Sam Presti being trash.

Relax, it's a patient game we play

I of course know that it's just day two of the new season. But I hate this line of thinking so much:'Hey, let's act like our trash isn't trash'. No!

I don't know how much Royce is really in the know. Or possibly how much Royce withholds. I wouldn't get too worked up over what he says.

[Old Man Game]

this is how the thunder local media reacts to everything. when there are reports of thunder interest in a player- talk about all the possible ways it can happen, talk about how the thunder are 'interested' and where that player would fit, etc. etc. when the player leaves and the reactionary optimism peters out start talking about how it was all so unrealistic anyway, include all the reasons it'd be difficult, etc.

they really don't know what they are talking about. fred katz just tweeted something about whether or not the thunder could 'convince' rudy gay to take the mle or less. this is hours after woj expressed the difficulty the thunder had arranging a sign and trade with the kings. so which one is it?

i put zero stock into katz or royce or any of them reporting on meetings or who or what the thunder are interested in / their motivations.

Fred is a lot more level headed about it than Royce.

[Dadouv47]

I like Taj a lot and will miss him, but clearly by winning 14 millions / year, we couldn't afford it. Even if we had the cap space, I wouldn't want to give him that much money.

Going to be very difficult to find a solution at the 4 now

[ThunderBolt]

What would it take to get favors from Utah? They offer that guy in every trade on the T&T board.

[Old Man Game]

The thought of starting Grant at PF is pretty frightening. Relying on Doug even more so.

[Kizz Fastfists]

What would it take to get favors from Utah? They offer that guy in every trade on the T&T board.

Favors makes $12M. We know they wouldn't be interested in Adams or Kanter. I don't think Singler, Abrines and McDermott gets it done. I don't think Abrines, McDermott, Grant and Huestis works. So something involving Russ or George, which also doesn't work.

[bondom34]

Call me gullible but I don't buy they're not up to something. I don't see them rolling into the year with the PF rotation as some mixup of Grant/McDermott/Gay.

[retrobro90]

I think we add a 4 but I wouldn't be surprised if it's someone deep on the margins. Hard to see us clearing the cap and getting someone like Jamychal Green. Maybe we get an overseas dude or someone on the buyout market like Tolliver etc. Would much prefer that anyway and with Dre and PG on the wings we can definitely get away with a smaller stretch 4 like mcbuckets

[jambalaya]

PG for year hasn't "saved" Westbrook yet but it does raise the question: what if Presti had done something big 2-3 years ago? Was Durant saveable? Maybe, maybe not. But would probably would have increased chances.

[Thunder Up]

PG for year hasn't "saved" Westbrook yet but it does raise the question: what if Presti had done something big 2-3 years ago? Was Durant saveable? Maybe, maybe not. But would probably would have increased chances.

Durant not choking in the WCF (and the whole playoffs for that matter on wide open 3p attempts) would have saved Durant.

[NaturalThunder]

If we enter the season with the plan of starting Grant at PF and Semaj Christon as our backup PG, then the Paul George trade will be all for naught. We're still worse than the Warriors, Spurs, Rockets, and Jazz (if they retain Hayward) if we don't address our gaping hole at PF and backup PG.

[ThunderBolt]

Is everyone really ok with Abrines being our starting shooting guard?

[Old Man Game]

Is everyone really ok with Abrines being our starting shooting guard?

I actually really like him. But I think Robes starts.

[bondom34]

Yeah I think it's Russ/Robes/PG/X/Adams.