2018-2019 OKC Thunder Regular Season Pt 1: A Renewed Hope

[getrichordie]

Why do you think Schroder is out there in these lineups, slick?


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uh. because he was promised a role. that was the point of the .gif.

Why would we promise Schroder a role? To keep him happy, I suppose? What’s the evidence for this?


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[slick_watts]

Why do you think Schroder is out there in these lineups, slick?


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uh. because he was promised a role. that was the point of the .gif.

Why would we promise Schroder a role? To keep him happy, I suppose? What’s the evidence for this?


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he said it over the summer during a german national team game. that he doesn't know if he's going to start but he will get starters minutes and will close games.

[getrichordie]

uh. because he was promised a role. that was the point of the .gif.

Why would we promise Schroder a role? To keep him happy, I suppose? What’s the evidence for this?


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he said it over the summer during a german national team game. that he doesn't know if he's going to start but he will get starters minutes and will close games.

Oh, yeah! I remember hearing about that now. What would Presti’s motivation be for promising him that?


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[Pillendreher]

Why would we promise Schroder a role? To keep him happy, I suppose? What’s the evidence for this?


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he said it over the summer during a german national team game. that he doesn't know if he's going to start but he will get starters minutes and will close games.

Oh, yeah! I remember hearing about that now. What would Presti’s motivation be for promising him that?


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I'd suspect because that way he'd be less of an issue chemistry wise. Schröder isn't exactly known for being a self-aware guy. There's bound to be trouble if you take a guy that thinks he's better than he actually is and then give him Raymond Felton's minutes.

[getrichordie]

he said it over the summer during a german national team game. that he doesn't know if he's going to start but he will get starters minutes and will close games.

Oh, yeah! I remember hearing about that now. What would Presti’s motivation be for promising him that?


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I'd suspect because that way he'd be less of an issue chemistry wise. Schröder isn't exactly known for being a self-aware guy. There's bound to be trouble if you take a guy that thinks he's better than he actually is and then give him Raymond Felton's minutes.

That’s a good point. It’s ironic because the same could very well be said of Westbrook.

Confidence is a double-edged sword. We all want to believe that we are better than what we are. This has definitely been a trend in some of the best competitors across different industries and different “mediums,” for lack of a better word.

I think every true competitor has a little bit or a lot of bit of Kanye in them. I find that most people who hate Kanye, really hate the fact that they don’t have that level of supreme confidence. It’s a hard truth to face so many don’t so they express their inner vulnerabilities as outward hate.

And that is getrichordie’s psychological analysis for the day, lol.

So, self-awareness is a spectrum. You can be closer to being self aware and further away.

If we rank the most “self-aware” players on the team to the least, how would you rank OKC?

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[spearsy23]

It’s ironic because the same could very well be said of Westbrook.

Can you please explain how that is ironic in any way?

[slick_watts]

It’s ironic because the same could very well be said of Westbrook.

Can you please explain how that is ironic in any way?

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[getrichordie]

It’s ironic because the same could very well be said of Westbrook.

Can you please explain how that is ironic in any way?

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You guys would focus and point out that one thing and point it out, lol.

It’s ironic how some of the Russ apologists of the board are the same ones that disparage and sometimes even vilify, Schroder.




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[slick_watts]

It’s ironic how some of the Russ apologists of the board are the same ones that disparage and sometimes even vilify, Schroder.

i don't think so. westbrook's performance is completely at odds with most people's realistic expectations-- so much so that it's reasonable to think that something is wrong that could correct itself as time goes on, as it did last season. that might end up right or wrong but it's still an open question.

schroder was a toxic contract traded to us for dead salary. it's not surprising when he sucks. there isn't the same kind of realistic hope for him like there is for westbrook.

[getrichordie]

It’s ironic how some of the Russ apologists of the board are the same ones that disparage and sometimes even vilify, Schroder.

i don't think so. westbrook's performance is completely at odds with most people's realistic expectations-- so much so that it's reasonable to think that something is wrong that could correct itself as time goes on, as it did last season. that might end up right or wrong but it's still an open question.

schroder was a toxic contract traded to us for dead salary. it's not surprising when he sucks. there isn't the same kind of realistic hope for him like there is for westbrook.

And I would argue that most think Schroder sucks because he’s stuck playing in a role that very few players would succeed at in a way that fans would say he does not suck.

Let’s play a game.

What players could we realistically acquire that would be better than Schroder in this role as a third ball-handler/playmaker?

We would need someone on the wing who can run the second unit and play alongside George and Westbrook in the first unit. Who does this better than Schroder that we can realistically acquire?


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[Pillendreher]

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That means we'd be going 30-19 over the remaining 49 games.

538 currently has us 3 wins higher, going 33-16 over the remaining games.

[Woerzboerg]

We just should get out of Golden States part of the playoff-tree.

[spearsy23]

We just should get out of Golden States part of the playoff-tree.

Like move to Europe?

[Old Man Game]

I find myself more annoyed at that Houston loss than the T Wolves loss for some reason. I guess I'm just always personally a lot more apt to excuse losing a back to back than I am to excuse losing the 3rd in 4 nights thing.

[Old Man Game]

And by the way, if this organization was dumb enough to trade for a malcontent, paid 15 million a year, AND promise the guy minutes that's a total face palm.

[ThunderBolt]

And by the way, if this organization was dumb enough to trade for a malcontent, paid 15 million a year, AND promise the guy minutes that's a total face palm.

Presti is an enigma to me.

[spearsy23]

And by the way, if this organization was dumb enough to trade for a malcontent, paid 15 million a year, AND promise the guy minutes that's a total face palm.

Remember when they did that for a guy making 30 million?

[slick_watts]

And by the way, if this organization was dumb enough to trade for a malcontent, paid 15 million a year, AND promise the guy minutes that's a total face palm.

Remember when they did that for a guy making 30 million?

at least there was some possible subtext there, like convincing george or stay or westbrook to re-sign.

i can't think of any reason to guarantee schroder anything considering his status at the time of the trade both on and off the court. except to possibly salvage as much value in him as possible for a future trade.

[Pillendreher]

Fun fact of the day for you: Per stats.nba.com, Abrines is shooting 57 % from 3 on Patterson passes and Patterson is shooting 60 % from 3 on Abrines passes. We've been going about this all wrong: We need to let them pass to each other, not have somebody else set them up.

[getrichordie]

And by the way, if this organization was dumb enough to trade for a malcontent, paid 15 million a year, AND promise the guy minutes that's a total face palm.

Remember when they did that for a guy making 30 million?

at least there was some possible subtext there, like convincing george or stay or westbrook to re-sign.

i can't think of any reason to guarantee schroder anything considering his status at the time of the trade both on and off the court. except to possibly salvage as much value in him as possible for a future trade.

Presti probably promised Schroder this so he would actually give a **** about the game and not just leave his talent sitting there doing nothing on the bench and being a $45M salary commitment that would be a complete waste.

As promising as Ferguson and Diallo has looked, Schroder is just flat out better. Period. He provides more value to this team than everyone outside of the starting 5 not named Ferguson (who is only a starter in name).

It is a plan that has worked for Presti.

The Melo situation was different. Presti knew he had to appease Melo’s ego for a number of reasons, mostly to accomplish the big picture goal of George re-signing.

Just sit back and imagine for a second what an OKC locker room and an OKC media frenzy would look like if Melo was made to come off the bench. We got a little taste of it in Houston this year.


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