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Re: Don't look now but...Jeremy Lamb! 

Post#21 » by Dadouv47 » Wed Nov 1, 2017 5:26 pm

The only time I felt we failed with Lamb was during cupcake MVP season. He was playing great first part of the season (even Perry Jones wasn't that bad) then for some reason Scott Brooks decided to let the young guys on the bench.
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Re: Don't look now but...Jeremy Lamb! 

Post#22 » by sleestak33 » Thu Nov 2, 2017 12:21 pm

getrichordie wrote:To be honest, I don’t think it was a HUGE mistake to trade Lamb, but at the time, I was a fan of Lamb and I thought we should have kept him. I think at times, we get a little impatient as fans.

Scott Brooks was pretty impatient with players when he was here.. and often went with veterans over developing younger players.

It takes minutes for some players to develop. Players learn differently. Not every player can just develop through practice or watching film, they have to be able to execute what they are practicing in an actual game and what they are seeing on film, etc., etc.

A lot of people don’t think highly of Jerami Grant, but the dude is just 23. He did some amazing things in Philly when he was 20-21 when he could get more minutes.

And Lamb just turned 23 when we traded him and he didn’t see a ton of minutes in OKC.

Now watch Ferguson flame out after he gets dejected from never getting minutes on a stacked OKC team. And then we will all be saying he sucks and we should trade him and another team will give him minutes and develop him.

OKC wasn’t patient enough with Waiters, honestly. I really thought we should have re-signed him. It was easy to see towards the end of the year that he was figuring it out and learning from Donovan. He even spoke about it. Now this is a kid who went from a really bad team to a really good team and had some adjustment issues playing an different role. Normal. Give it time. Continuity and real game experience can do a lot for a player.


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Lamb was benched by Brooks in favor of Caron Butler who completely fell apart in the playoffs. That whole thing completely ruined Lamb's confidence and I didn't understand it because he was playing really good before Butler got there. I can only imagine how good Lamb would be right now if they had stuck with him and put him in the starting role Roberson has had. OKC would have a really solid two way player at the shooting guard position which is a glaring need right now. I just don't understand the love that Presti has for defensive one way players that completely suck on offense. I'll take an offensive player every single time.
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Re: Don't look now but...Jeremy Lamb! 

Post#23 » by bondom34 » Thu Nov 2, 2017 1:48 pm

Lamb is a two way player?
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Re: Don't look now but...Jeremy Lamb! 

Post#24 » by slick_watts » Thu Nov 2, 2017 2:48 pm

caron butler was awful but he was promised minutes when he signed here.
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Re: Don't look now but...Jeremy Lamb! 

Post#25 » by Andre Roberstan » Thu Nov 2, 2017 2:59 pm

bondom34 wrote:Lamb is a two way player?


Lamb made it to passable on the defensive end.
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Re: Don't look now but...Jeremy Lamb! 

Post#26 » by bondom34 » Thu Nov 2, 2017 3:00 pm

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bondom34 wrote:Lamb is a two way player?


Lamb made it to passable on the defensive end.

Does passable really count as two way? Because I've never really thought of guys like Curry or Gobert as two way and they're passable on both ends.
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Re: Don't look now but...Jeremy Lamb! 

Post#27 » by sleestak33 » Thu Nov 2, 2017 3:02 pm

bondom34 wrote:Lamb is a two way player?


Would he be starting if he wasn't? It's almost unfathomable that Presti went with Roberson and after 4 years in the NBA he is somehow worse now offensively than he was 4 years ago. He is airballing free throws, missing layups and is 3-18 on 3 pointers this year (17%). If they had stuck with Lamb and continued to work with him defensively and grooming his overall game we would clearly have a ridiculously better all around player than Roberson. Lamb is anyway but had he stayed in OKC and they stuck with him he would be even better.
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Re: Don't look now but...Jeremy Lamb! 

Post#28 » by bondom34 » Thu Nov 2, 2017 3:04 pm

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bondom34 wrote:Lamb is a two way player?


Would he be starting if he wasn't? It's almost unfathomable that Presti went with Roberson and after 4 years in the NBA he is somehow worse now offensively than he was 4 years ago. He is airballing free throws, missing layups and is 3-18 on 3 pointers this year (17%). If they had stuck with Lamb and continued to work with him defensively and grooming his overall game we would clearly have a ridiculously better all around player than Roberson. Lamb is anyway but had he stayed in OKC and they stuck with him he would be even better.

He's starting because Batum and MKG are injured...

There is a reason he wasn't starting before.
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Re: Don't look now but...Jeremy Lamb! 

Post#29 » by Andre Roberstan » Thu Nov 2, 2017 3:14 pm

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bondom34 wrote:Lamb is a two way player?


Would he be starting if he wasn't? It's almost unfathomable that Presti went with Roberson and after 4 years in the NBA he is somehow worse now offensively than he was 4 years ago. He is airballing free throws, missing layups and is 3-18 on 3 pointers this year (17%). If they had stuck with Lamb and continued to work with him defensively and grooming his overall game we would clearly have a ridiculously better all around player than Roberson. Lamb is anyway but had he stayed in OKC and they stuck with him he would be even better.


There are plenty of one-way players that start in the NBA.
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Re: Don't look now but...Jeremy Lamb! 

Post#30 » by Dadouv47 » Thu Nov 2, 2017 4:38 pm

I prefer a passable player on both ends than a great player on one hand and huge liability on the other.
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Post#31 » by Andre Roberstan » Thu Nov 2, 2017 4:57 pm

Dadouv47 wrote:I prefer a passable player on both ends than a great player on one hand and huge liability on the other.


We should start Felton then
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Re: Don't look now but...Jeremy Lamb! 

Post#32 » by getrichordie » Thu Nov 2, 2017 6:19 pm

Andre Roberstan wrote:
Dadouv47 wrote:I prefer a passable player on both ends than a great player on one hand and huge liability on the other.


We should start Felton then


Yeah, it’s all about impact and fit rather than being an all-around solid player. You need those all-around solid players (PG13) but you fill those rotational players out with what you can get. It’s a balance. Right now with this team, we need a floor spacer at the 2.

For example, I think that Lamb’s floor-spacing ability and decency on defense helps open the offense up enough to where the offense is helped so much that losing a Roberson wouldn’t hurt more than it would help.


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Re: Don't look now but...Jeremy Lamb! 

Post#33 » by Dadouv47 » Thu Nov 2, 2017 6:42 pm

Andre Roberstan wrote:
Dadouv47 wrote:I prefer a passable player on both ends than a great player on one hand and huge liability on the other.


We should start Felton then


Felton in OKC = superstar talent on both ends.
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Re: Don't look now but...Jeremy Lamb! 

Post#34 » by sleestak33 » Fri Nov 3, 2017 10:37 am

bondom34 wrote:
sleestak33 wrote:
bondom34 wrote:Lamb is a two way player?


Would he be starting if he wasn't? It's almost unfathomable that Presti went with Roberson and after 4 years in the NBA he is somehow worse now offensively than he was 4 years ago. He is airballing free throws, missing layups and is 3-18 on 3 pointers this year (17%). If they had stuck with Lamb and continued to work with him defensively and grooming his overall game we would clearly have a ridiculously better all around player than Roberson. Lamb is anyway but had he stayed in OKC and they stuck with him he would be even better.

He's starting because Batum and MKG are injured...

There is a reason he wasn't starting before.


Here's the bottom line with this post...Lamb is a far superior all around player than Roberson and had the Thunder stuck with him the team would be much better off. If you disagree with this then you simply don't know basketball and there's nothing I can do for you.
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Re: Don't look now but...Jeremy Lamb! 

Post#35 » by ThunderBolt » Fri Nov 3, 2017 11:16 am

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bondom34 wrote:
sleestak33 wrote:
Would he be starting if he wasn't? It's almost unfathomable that Presti went with Roberson and after 4 years in the NBA he is somehow worse now offensively than he was 4 years ago. He is airballing free throws, missing layups and is 3-18 on 3 pointers this year (17%). If they had stuck with Lamb and continued to work with him defensively and grooming his overall game we would clearly have a ridiculously better all around player than Roberson. Lamb is anyway but had he stayed in OKC and they stuck with him he would be even better.

He's starting because Batum and MKG are injured...

There is a reason he wasn't starting before.


Here's the bottom line with this post...Lamb is a far superior all around player than Roberson and had the Thunder stuck with him the team would be much better off. If you disagree with this then you simply don't know basketball and there's nothing I can do for you.


How about a silent protest?
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Re: Don't look now but...Jeremy Lamb! 

Post#36 » by bondom34 » Fri Nov 3, 2017 1:34 pm

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bondom34 wrote:
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Would he be starting if he wasn't? It's almost unfathomable that Presti went with Roberson and after 4 years in the NBA he is somehow worse now offensively than he was 4 years ago. He is airballing free throws, missing layups and is 3-18 on 3 pointers this year (17%). If they had stuck with Lamb and continued to work with him defensively and grooming his overall game we would clearly have a ridiculously better all around player than Roberson. Lamb is anyway but had he stayed in OKC and they stuck with him he would be even better.

He's starting because Batum and MKG are injured...

There is a reason he wasn't starting before.


Here's the bottom line with this post...Lamb is a far superior all around player than Roberson and had the Thunder stuck with him the team would be much better off. If you disagree with this then you simply don't know basketball and there's nothing I can do for you.

I mean...

1. You were wrong.

2. You're literally wrong about everything. He's a mediocre bench player spot starting on a team with its best two wings out and you were clueless of this simlle fact. You then tell me I don't know. I don't know whats more baffling given your entire history. I'd say you don't know basketball but honestly at this point that's painfully obvious to even local reporters who deal with your incessant trolling . If you'd like to learn about basketball you should probably at least be correct on the basic parts of what you say.
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Re: Don't look now but...Jeremy Lamb! 

Post#37 » by jambalaya » Sat Nov 4, 2017 12:25 am

Agree to disagree?
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Re: Don't look now but...Jeremy Lamb! 

Post#38 » by bondom34 » Sat Nov 4, 2017 12:40 am

jambalaya wrote:Agree to disagree?

Ah, you don't know sleestak from everywhere else :D.
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Re: Don't look now but...Jeremy Lamb! 

Post#39 » by sleestak33 » Sun Nov 5, 2017 11:33 am

bondom34 wrote:
sleestak33 wrote:
bondom34 wrote:He's starting because Batum and MKG are injured...

There is a reason he wasn't starting before.


Here's the bottom line with this post...Lamb is a far superior all around player than Roberson and had the Thunder stuck with him the team would be much better off. If you disagree with this then you simply don't know basketball and there's nothing I can do for you.

I mean...

1. You were wrong.

2. You're literally wrong about everything. He's a mediocre bench player spot starting on a team with its best two wings out and you were clueless of this simlle fact. You then tell me I don't know. I don't know whats more baffling given your entire history. I'd say you don't know basketball but honestly at this point that's painfully obvious to even local reporters who deal with your incessant trolling . If you'd like to learn about basketball you should probably at least be correct on the basic parts of what you say.


Lamb 18.1 pts. 5.1 rbds. 3.1 asts. this year 48% 44% on 3s 78% free throws I'm 100% right about Lamb and I always was. I said when they got rid of him that it was ridiculous and that all he needed was game minutes to continue to develop. His per 36 minute numbers last year were 19 points and 8 rebounds. He simply wasn't getting time on the court. The only reason he's been a "mediocre" bench player is because coaches haven't played him enough. At least he hasn't been the worst offensive wing player in NBA history like Roberson. Lamb is a far superior all around player than Roberson and it's not even remotely close.
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Re: Don't look now but...Jeremy Lamb! 

Post#40 » by bondom34 » Sun Nov 5, 2017 7:08 pm

Hes a mediocre bench player because... Well thats exactly what he is. And no he still us just that and Roberson has a bigger impact. Your takes still lack substance.
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