11/20 - POSTGAME | Oklahoma City Thunder (107) - (114) New Orleans Pelicans

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Player(s) of the Game

Paul George | 26 PTS (9-17 FG. 6-10 3P), 5 REB, 4 AST 5 STL
6
40%
Carmelo Anthony | 16 PTS (6-18 FG), 9 REB, 4 STL
0
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Steven Adams | 13 PTS (6-7 FG)
5
33%
Russell Westbrook | 22 PTS (6-18 FG), 16 REB, 11 AST
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13%
Jerami Grant | 10 PTS (4-7 FG)
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7%
Other (specify below)
1
7%
 
Total votes: 15

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Re: 11/20 - POSTGAME | Oklahoma City Thunder (107) - (114) New Orleans Pelicans 

Post#21 » by oken » Tue Nov 21, 2017 4:24 am

Thundershock88 wrote:Watching this team is like banging your head against a brick wall. It's not going to get any better. Hope we can tank, so we can get a nice rookie that we can't integrate properly into an actual system.

Don't hope, just witness it. We are tied with Miami and Charlotte for nr.10 spot in lottery.

If Kyrie was not in god mode even Mavs could be back in contention a bit. Milwaukee is shaky but possibly they won't be a lottery team. Heat has Dion Waiters to win them meaningless games to increase win record. Things can change and maybe with a PG to Cavs swap mid-season we can find ourselves with 2 top 10 picks this year!
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Post#22 » by Old Man Game » Tue Nov 21, 2017 5:02 am

God, we suck. I just don't know what to say at this point. 19 point lead evaporates inside the first quarter. WTF?
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Post#23 » by Old Man Game » Tue Nov 21, 2017 5:07 am

Actually I do have something else. I think our team Doctor should get Westbrook evaluated by a psychiatrist. I'd lay even money that the guy would test positive for ADHD and could be prescribed Adderall. I've never seen a player fall asleep so much on defense. Like he can't focus on his man for more than about 1.5-3 seconds.
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Post#24 » by The KnicksFix » Tue Nov 21, 2017 5:16 am

the problem isnt donovan, its melo... his game is not conducive to team ball, i want westbrook to succeed, but melo wont change his game for him to do so
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Post#25 » by Thundershock88 » Tue Nov 21, 2017 5:45 am

The Uknickorn wrote:the problem isnt donovan, its melo... his game is not conducive to team ball, i want westbrook to succeed, but melo wont change his game for him to do so


Why? Melo is doing literally what everyone else is. Matter of fact, it's the same thing we have been doing the last 9 years.
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Post#26 » by xxSnEaKyPxx » Tue Nov 21, 2017 6:14 am

Knrstz wrote: I’m trying to figure out which team to be a secondary bandwagon fan of this season.

Indiana

Come to the dark side. :nod:
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Post#27 » by DoubleJ13 » Tue Nov 21, 2017 6:22 am

Billy Donovan has more trust & faith in Jerami Grant than I have ever had in anything in my life.

Maybe should have had Adams not be out so long in the 3rd/4th while Davis is just having a field day. I know Davis is great & you aren't going to stop him, but an attempt at anything to just slow him down a bit would have been helpful. Probably.
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Post#28 » by Limark » Tue Nov 21, 2017 6:29 am

DoubleJ13 wrote:Billy Donovan has more trust & faith in Jerami Grant than I have ever had in anything in my life.

Maybe should have had Adams not be out so long in the 3rd/4th while Davis is just having a field day. I know Davis is great & you aren't going to stop him, but an attempt at anything to just slow him down a bit would have been helpful. Probably.


I have a huge amount of faith in Grant, Donovan is just misusing him he should have never played the 5 against Davis/Cousins especially when Adams only had 2 fouls and played 17 minutes in the 4th quarter.

But Grant at the 5 could work really well against some lineups, this was just Donovan being an idiot
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Post#29 » by bondom34 » Tue Nov 21, 2017 6:31 am

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Knrstz wrote: I’m trying to figure out which team to be a secondary bandwagon fan of this season.

Indiana

Come to the dark side. :nod:

Formal request being made before Wednesday.

Thabo Sefolosha, could you set us with a game thread for Indy's game Wednesday? The Dubs game is gonna be a slaughter.
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Post#30 » by Dadouv47 » Tue Nov 21, 2017 9:55 am

Well, cupcake was right. We are playing like cats and have a dumb coach :(
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Post#31 » by Pillendreher » Tue Nov 21, 2017 11:14 am

Since the Milwaukee game:

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That's 9 games/432 minutes played.

NetRtG by quarter:

1st: +31
2nd: -2
3rd: -15
4th: -17
"I don't know of any player that, when the shot goes up, he doesn't want it to go in," Donovan said
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Post#32 » by Pillendreher » Tue Nov 21, 2017 11:20 am

USG% againt the Pelics:

1st: Russ 27.3 % on 47 TS%
2nd: Melo 26.8 % on 46 TS%
3rd: Grant 24.2 % on 57 TS%
4th: George 23.4 % on 74 TS%
"I don't know of any player that, when the shot goes up, he doesn't want it to go in," Donovan said
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Post#33 » by Pillendreher » Tue Nov 21, 2017 11:27 am

Pillendreher wrote:Since the Milwaukee game:

Image

That's 9 games/432 minutes played.

NetRtG by quarter:

1st: +31
2nd: -2
3rd: -15
4th: -17


Andre Roberson's minutes per quarter over that 9 game stretch:

1st Q: 8.1 (72.5 DRtG with him on the floor)
2nd Q: 5.7 (106.8 DRtG with him on the floor)
3rd Q: 8.8 (106.8 DRtG with him on the floor)
4th Q: 4.5 (106.8 DRtG with him on the floor)

And no, that's no an error. It really is 106.8 from the 2nd to the 4th quarter.

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Melo USG% per quarter in those 9 games (8 for him):

1st Q: 27.2 % on 58.6 TS%
2nd Q: 22.5 % on 46.2 TS%
3rd Q: 25.6 % on 51.8 TS%
4th Q: 28.8 % on 41.9 TS%

Russ USG%/TS% per quarter in those 9 games:

1st Q: 30.8 % on 45.0 TS%
2nd Q: 35.6 % on 60.5 TS%
3rd Q: 30.8 % on 38.2 TS%
4th Q: 31.8 % on 37.6 TS%

George USG%/TS% per quarter in those 9 games:

1st Q: 21.5 % on 70.2 TS%
2nd Q: 23.7 % on 46.8 TS%
3rd Q: 31.1 % on 50.7 TS%
4th Q: 26.6 % on 67.6 TS%
"I don't know of any player that, when the shot goes up, he doesn't want it to go in," Donovan said
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Post#34 » by ThunderBolt » Tue Nov 21, 2017 11:38 am

“You can talk. Talking don't do anything at this point,” Westbrook said. “You got to go out and play. You can talk as much as you want to, but guys got to take personal pride and understand how important it is to go out and compete and not take it for granted. I think as players, you go out on the floor and sometimes you take it for granted and don't realize how important it is and embracing the moment. Each individual guy has to do that every night.”

These kind of comments make me wonder if anyone has ever approached Russ and told him that his defense sucks. I wouldn’t be surprised if the coaching staff has never had the guts to mention it.
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Post#35 » by Pillendreher » Tue Nov 21, 2017 11:57 am

Regarding the game, I especially liked switching Point Guards on Davis. It worked out really well. Great gameplan.
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Post#36 » by dakomish23 » Tue Nov 21, 2017 1:06 pm

Old Man Game wrote:Actually I do have something else. I think our team Doctor should get Westbrook evaluated by a psychiatrist. I'd lay even money that the guy would test positive for ADHD and could be prescribed Adderall. I've never seen a player fall asleep so much on defense. Like he can't focus on his man for more than about 1.5-3 seconds.


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Post#37 » by dakomish23 » Tue Nov 21, 2017 1:10 pm

They have to do something drastic. Can’t get these games back. 20% of the season is gone. This team should at least be 10-6.
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Post#38 » by Old Man Game » Tue Nov 21, 2017 1:12 pm

dakomish23 wrote:
Old Man Game wrote:Actually I do have something else. I think our team Doctor should get Westbrook evaluated by a psychiatrist. I'd lay even money that the guy would test positive for ADHD and could be prescribed Adderall. I've never seen a player fall asleep so much on defense. Like he can't focus on his man for more than about 1.5-3 seconds.


This was tough to watch

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I literally could have defended that as well as Westbrook did. He offered essentially no resistance at all.
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Post#39 » by Old Man Game » Tue Nov 21, 2017 1:16 pm

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“You can talk. Talking don't do anything at this point,” Westbrook said. “You got to go out and play. You can talk as much as you want to, but guys got to take personal pride and understand how important it is to go out and compete and not take it for granted. I think as players, you go out on the floor and sometimes you take it for granted and don't realize how important it is and embracing the moment. Each individual guy has to do that every night.”

These kind of comments make me wonder if anyone has ever approached Russ and told him that his defense sucks. I wouldn’t be surprised if the coaching staff has never had the guts to mention it.


I wonder sometimes what would have happened in Garnett had ever played with this guy. I like to think Garnett would have just stuffed him in a locker at some point and refused to open the door until Russ admitted that he was most of the problem with our defense.
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Post#40 » by Jstock12 » Tue Nov 21, 2017 1:17 pm

Old Man Game wrote:
dakomish23 wrote:
Old Man Game wrote:Actually I do have something else. I think our team Doctor should get Westbrook evaluated by a psychiatrist. I'd lay even money that the guy would test positive for ADHD and could be prescribed Adderall. I've never seen a player fall asleep so much on defense. Like he can't focus on his man for more than about 1.5-3 seconds.


This was tough to watch

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I literally could have defended that as well as Westbrook did. He offered essentially no resistance at all.


Why defend Rondo so closely? Make him beat you by shooting jumpshots.

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