Why is Melo playing so poorly?

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Post#21 » by spearsy23 » Thu Dec 14, 2017 2:55 am

dakomish23 wrote:somebody has to the scapegoat.

Fitting that it's the guy providing the least impact though.
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
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Post#22 » by M2J » Thu Dec 14, 2017 2:55 am

dakomish23 wrote:somebody has to the scapegoat.



I mean seriously. What's wrong with Russ and PG? They're all struggling
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Re: Why is Melo playing so poorly? 

Post#23 » by RunOKC » Thu Dec 14, 2017 3:42 am

Melo is good for one thing: Spot up shooting

When he realizes that this team will get a little better.

Another way this team gets better is if we eliminate all post ups for anyone except Adams.
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Re: Why is Melo playing so poorly? 

Post#24 » by dakomish23 » Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:06 am

RunOKC wrote:Melo is good for one thing: Spot up shooting

When he realizes that this team will get a little better.

Another way this team gets better is if we eliminate all post ups for anyone except Adams.


Truth. I said something about it in the game thread. With all the driving these guys do he could get 15 FGA easily strictly on catch and shoots or what develops if someone closes out.
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Re: Why is Melo playing so poorly? 

Post#25 » by dakomish23 » Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:21 am

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dakomish23 wrote:somebody has to the scapegoat.

Fitting that it's the guy providing the least impact though.


Least impact? Right now? Sure. He’s been awful the last 5 games.

There were plenty of games where he was better than Russ and/or PG. But even then he was your scapegoat.

Fitting that a guy you clearly didn’t want on the team will always be your scapegoat.
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Re: Why is Melo playing so poorly? 

Post#26 » by dakomish23 » Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:26 am

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dakomish23 wrote:somebody has to the scapegoat.


I mean seriously. What's wrong with Russ and PG? They're all struggling


They’re trying to find the balance between being aggressive and letting other guys get in on the action. They need to stop and just do what made them great. Let the other guys fill in around them, including Melo.
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Re: Why is Melo playing so poorly? 

Post#27 » by spearsy23 » Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:32 am

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dakomish23 wrote:somebody has to the scapegoat.

Fitting that it's the guy providing the least impact though.


Least impact? Right now? Sure. He’s been awful the last 5 games.

There were plenty of games where he was better than Russ and/or PG. But even then he was your scapegoat.

Fitting that a guy you clearly didn’t want on the team will always be your scapegoat.

He's been worthless since day one. He's a low efficiency chucker who brings nothing else to the table. At least Russ can pass and rebound, and PG plays defense. Melo is worthless when he's not scoring, and he's never scoring anymore.

Also, I've defended Melo for the last few years. I didn't think NY was his fault and I was happy to have him. He's been so awful I'm rethinking the new York stance.
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
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Re: Why is Melo playing so poorly? 

Post#28 » by dakomish23 » Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:46 am

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dakomish23 wrote:
spearsy23 wrote:Fitting that it's the guy providing the least impact though.


Least impact? Right now? Sure. He’s been awful the last 5 games.

There were plenty of games where he was better than Russ and/or PG. But even then he was your scapegoat.

Fitting that a guy you clearly didn’t want on the team will always be your scapegoat.

He's been worthless since day one. He's a low efficiency chucker who brings nothing else to the table. At least Russ can pass and rebound, and PG plays defense. Melo is worthless when he's not scoring, and he's never scoring anymore.

Also, I've defended Melo for the last few years. I didn't think NY was his fault and I was happy to have him. He's been so awful I'm rethinking the new York stance.


You guys like stats. Why don’t you see if he was as bad in NY as he’s been so far in OKC?

Father Time is undefeated.

Worthless? Was he worthless in the first win against IND? What about at CHI? GSW? Oh wait that one they won in spite of him.


No one is confusing Melo for being something else than a scorer. He’s had a bad shooting stretch.
When he gets on a good shooting stretch, I bet it will still be his fault win or loss.
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Re: Why is Melo playing so poorly? 

Post#29 » by Ten2376 » Thu Dec 14, 2017 6:21 am

One guarantee you can expect from melo in the upcoming weeks/ months if his struggles continue is this. He will come out and blame his poor season performance on a shoulder / knee / or ankle injury that has just plagued him since training camp. He will claim that he just needs "time" and he will be back to being one of the best players in the league. He did it when struggling in Denver, did it in new york,and does it every time the pressure builds up. I don't now how many times i have heard this excuse pop out of this guys mouth when things are not looking good for him.
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Post#30 » by Thundershock88 » Thu Dec 14, 2017 7:14 am

Post should be titled..."Why is everyone playing so poorly?"
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Post#31 » by ozwizard8 » Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:14 am

Ten2376 wrote:One guarantee you can expect from melo in the upcoming weeks/ months if his struggles continue is this. He will come out and blame his poor season performance on a shoulder / knee / or ankle injury that has just plagued him since training camp. He will claim that he just needs "time" and he will be back to being one of the best players in the league. He did it when struggling in Denver, did it in new york,and does it every time the pressure builds up. I don't now how many times i have heard this excuse pop out of this guys mouth when things are not looking good for him.

He lost much athleticism in short time.
I dont remember any major knee issues with him. But he certainly looks like 35-36 years old on the court.

I dont know if its mental or physical issue.
Playing with Allen Iverson didnt help him I guess. Melo probably dont like talking about practice either.
Melo's game should've survived those years but he doesnt seem to work hard enough.
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Re: Why is Melo playing so poorly? 

Post#32 » by hardenASG13 » Thu Dec 14, 2017 12:17 pm

Hes been in the league 15 years, as a featured guy. He can't jump anymore. Bigs have easily been blocking him at the rim. He could be a great catch and shoot guy though. Donovan gotta tell him like it is. Point to wade in Cleveland. It's gotta be about winning.
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Post#33 » by M2J » Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:01 pm

Melo barely had lift the year he won the scoring title. His issues at the rim occurred before leaving Denver.. My point is, I don't think 40% shooting is his new normal any more than I think it is for Russell or PG
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Re: Why is Melo playing so poorly? 

Post#34 » by Pillendreher » Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:42 pm

Among the 69 guys with at least 800 minutes played, Melo is now 68th in BPM.

Something's gotta change. He's not this bad.
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Re: Why is Melo playing so poorly? 

Post#35 » by dakomish23 » Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:05 pm

Ten2376 wrote:One guarantee you can expect from melo in the upcoming weeks/ months if his struggles continue is this. He will come out and blame his poor season performance on a shoulder / knee / or ankle injury that has just plagued him since training camp. He will claim that he just needs "time" and he will be back to being one of the best players in the league. He did it when struggling in Denver, did it in new york,and does it every time the pressure builds up. I don't now how many times i have heard this excuse pop out of this guys mouth when things are not looking good for him.


Proof he did this in NY? B/C he actually played through pain multiple years in NY instead of sitting out or using it as an excuse.
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Re: Why is Melo playing so poorly? 

Post#36 » by Reign23 » Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:36 pm

I think his struggles on the offensive end could be because he is playing too many minutes. he will be 34 in may and really shouldn't be playing 33 minutes a game as he currently does. but anyway I think at some point his open shots will fall again.
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Re: Why is Melo playing so poorly? 

Post#37 » by Melo98PHOF » Sat Dec 16, 2017 11:41 am

Viewing these sour NYK, St Johns, Seton Hall, and Rutgers Melo haters mad because Carmelo led New York's team Syracuse to the National Championship in 2003.

According to basketball-reference.com Carmelo Anthony has a 98.2% chance to make the NBA Hall of Fame.

Here are a list of achievements by the 3 time Olympic Gold Medalist 4 time Medal winner

NBA achievements
First player in NBA history to have a 20-20 game as a small forward
Only player in NBA history to score 50+ points with no points in the paint.
Only player in NBA history to record 62+ points and 0 turnovers in a game.
Only player in NBA history to score 62+ points in Madison Square Garden.
Only player in NBA history to record 62+ points with 10 free throw attempts or less in a game.
Only player in NBA history to record 42+ points, 17+ rebounds, and 6+ assists in a playoff game.

NBA records

Most consecutive points scored in a game: 26 (on December 10, 2008 vs. Minnesota Timberwolves)

Only player in NBA history to start first 1000 games (accomplished December 9th at Memphis Grizzlies)

Only player to win all 6 rookie of the month awards


Other Achievements

10X NBA All Star
6x All-NBA selection



Now watch Carmelo Anthony drop 101 points vs the Knicks Sat Dec 16 2017 at the Garden, stay tuned for more future achievements in 2018!
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Re: Why is Melo playing so poorly? 

Post#38 » by spearsy23 » Sat Dec 16, 2017 6:36 pm

Melo98PHOF wrote:Viewing these sour NYK, St Johns, Seton Hall, and Rutgers Melo haters mad because Carmelo led New York's team Syracuse to the National Championship in 2003.

According to basketball-reference.com Carmelo Anthony has a 98.2% chance to make the NBA Hall of Fame.

Here are a list of achievements by the 3 time Olympic Gold Medalist 4 time Medal winner

NBA achievements
First player in NBA history to have a 20-20 game as a small forward
Only player in NBA history to score 50+ points with no points in the paint.
Only player in NBA history to record 62+ points and 0 turnovers in a game.
Only player in NBA history to score 62+ points in Madison Square Garden.
Only player in NBA history to record 62+ points with 10 free throw attempts or less in a game.
Only player in NBA history to record 42+ points, 17+ rebounds, and 6+ assists in a playoff game.

NBA records

Most consecutive points scored in a game: 26 (on December 10, 2008 vs. Minnesota Timberwolves)

Only player in NBA history to start first 1000 games (accomplished December 9th at Memphis Grizzlies)

Only player to win all 6 rookie of the month awards


Other Achievements

10X NBA All Star
6x All-NBA selection



Now watch Carmelo Anthony drop 101 points vs the Knicks Sat Dec 16 2017 at the Garden, stay tuned for more future achievements in 2018!

Melo is now old, and because he's old he is no longer good. His impressive career couldn't last forever.
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
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Re: Why is Melo playing so poorly? 

Post#39 » by KnickFan33 » Sat Dec 16, 2017 6:55 pm

Melo98PHOF wrote:Viewing these sour NYK, St Johns, Seton Hall, and Rutgers Melo haters mad because Carmelo led New York's team Syracuse to the National Championship in 2003.

According to basketball-reference.com Carmelo Anthony has a 98.2% chance to make the NBA Hall of Fame.

Here are a list of achievements by the 3 time Olympic Gold Medalist 4 time Medal winner

NBA achievements
First player in NBA history to have a 20-20 game as a small forward
Only player in NBA history to score 50+ points with no points in the paint.
Only player in NBA history to record 62+ points and 0 turnovers in a game.
Only player in NBA history to score 62+ points in Madison Square Garden.
Only player in NBA history to record 62+ points with 10 free throw attempts or less in a game.
Only player in NBA history to record 42+ points, 17+ rebounds, and 6+ assists in a playoff game.

NBA records

Most consecutive points scored in a game: 26 (on December 10, 2008 vs. Minnesota Timberwolves)

Only player in NBA history to start first 1000 games (accomplished December 9th at Memphis Grizzlies)

Only player to win all 6 rookie of the month awards


Other Achievements

10X NBA All Star
6x All-NBA selection



Now watch Carmelo Anthony drop 101 points vs the Knicks Sat Dec 16 2017 at the Garden, stay tuned for more future achievements in 2018!


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Did you happen to create an account just to post this hyperbole?
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Re: Why is Melo playing so poorly? 

Post#40 » by Pillendreher » Sat Dec 16, 2017 7:03 pm

Melo IN, Russ OUT:

118 minutes, 110.7 ORtG, 100.0 DRtG

Melo needs to get some run with the bench. I know I wanted it to be George, but that clearly hasn't been working.

We went with Melo+bench for the first 10 games. 102.0 overall ORtG, 100.4 ORtG/90.0 DRtG with Russ on the bench.
Afterwards, we went with George+bench. 102.2 overall ORtG, 94.5 ORtG/108.5 DRtG with Russ on the bench.

Melo needs to shoot for him to be a positive on the floor. Let him cook opposing scrubs.
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