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Post#21 » by Dadouv47 » Thu Nov 26, 2020 1:00 am

ThunderBolt wrote:So I was thinking about the teams that are our competition for Cade.


Orlando- drafted a pg in Anthony and will be in contention for playoffs as roster stands.
Charlotte- see above/Lamelo.
Chicago- they have enough young guys with experience they should be in playoff contention. I don’t think white is their future pg.
Cleveland- they’ll be bad but they had 2 point guards already on the roster with Garland and Sexton.
Detroit- they should be bad but it’s almost as of they think they won’t be, especially if Blake is healthy. Just drafted a pg, Killian Hayes.
NYK - they’ll be bad and a legitimate threat to draft Cade.
Memphis- have Morant and should be better than us
Sac- have fox and should be better than us, but maybe not by much.
Washington- if healthy they shouldn’t be in contention for Cade despite being bad last year.
New Orleans-they should be toogood for the top pick but would likely take Cade.
San Antonio- spurs have been rumored to be willing to move on for Murray but we know Popovich won’t tank.


My point isn’t that all of this is probable but some of it could be possible.

I do think a lot of these teams that would want to draft him will be better than us, so the lotto odds are in our favor.
I wouldn’t be surprised if some teams like Sacramento or Memphis would draft for fit and pass on Cade in favor of Green since they already have Fox and Morant. Others like Cleveland and Charlotte might do the same. For the pistons let’s hope Killian Hayes is really good and they join the group that drafts for fit.

Teams like the Bulls, Magic, and Pelicans should be better than us but I doubt they feel they have their point guards of the future with White, Anthony, Fultz and Ball. It doesn’t hurt us if those guys play really well this year.

The Knicks are probably the one team that I can’t find the silver lining that they’ll either be in playoff contention or might not want the best pg in the draft.


Good point about Memphis. Charlotte it will depend on how Lamelo plays next year. I don't think the Cavs will pass on Cade...Sexton and Garland are not that good so far.

The good thing is that there are several very good SG in the next draft (pretty rare in today's NBA) so maybe some teams would be willing to trade the first pick to take a good shooting guard. It will all depend to how those guys perform in the next months and who ends up with the first picks...
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Post#22 » by Dadouv47 » Thu Nov 26, 2020 1:03 am

Cade and SGA would be such a great combo, damn. Just improve the 3pt shooting and it's a perfect duo.
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Post#23 » by ThunderBolt » Thu Nov 26, 2020 1:06 am

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ThunderBolt wrote:So I was thinking about the teams that are our competition for Cade.


Orlando- drafted a pg in Anthony and will be in contention for playoffs as roster stands.
Charlotte- see above/Lamelo.
Chicago- they have enough young guys with experience they should be in playoff contention. I don’t think white is their future pg.
Cleveland- they’ll be bad but they had 2 point guards already on the roster with Garland and Sexton.
Detroit- they should be bad but it’s almost as of they think they won’t be, especially if Blake is healthy. Just drafted a pg, Killian Hayes.
NYK - they’ll be bad and a legitimate threat to draft Cade.
Memphis- have Morant and should be better than us
Sac- have fox and should be better than us, but maybe not by much.
Washington- if healthy they shouldn’t be in contention for Cade despite being bad last year.
New Orleans-they should be toogood for the top pick but would likely take Cade.
San Antonio- spurs have been rumored to be willing to move on for Murray but we know Popovich won’t tank.


My point isn’t that all of this is probable but some of it could be possible.

I do think a lot of these teams that would want to draft him will be better than us, so the lotto odds are in our favor.
I wouldn’t be surprised if some teams like Sacramento or Memphis would draft for fit and pass on Cade in favor of Green since they already have Fox and Morant. Others like Cleveland and Charlotte might do the same. For the pistons let’s hope Killian Hayes is really good and they join the group that drafts for fit.

Teams like the Bulls, Magic, and Pelicans should be better than us but I doubt they feel they have their point guards of the future with White, Anthony, Fultz and Ball. It doesn’t hurt us if those guys play really well this year.

The Knicks are probably the one team that I can’t find the silver lining that they’ll either be in playoff contention or might not want the best pg in the draft.


Good point on Memphis. Charlotte it will depend on how Lamelo plays next year. I don't think the Cavs will pass on Cade...Sexton and Garland are not THAT good so far.

The good thing is that there are several very good SG in the next draft (pretty rare in today's NBA) so maybe some teams would be willing to trade the first pick to take a good shooting guard. It will all depend to how those guys perform in the next months and who ends up with the first picks...


Cleveland is more likely to pass because they aren’t a well run organization than the fact sexton or garland is good.
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Post#24 » by Dadouv47 » Thu Nov 26, 2020 1:15 am

yeah but they are not that stupid. If Cade is still a lock at first, they will still go after the consensus number 1 prospect...
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Post#25 » by Old Man Game » Thu Nov 26, 2020 4:20 am

Did you catch that that another one of SGA's cousins is on the OSU roster, that Matthew-Alexander Moncrief kid? That family really had some athletes. 3 D1 scholarships and 2 first rounders.

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Post#26 » by ThunderBolt » Thu Nov 26, 2020 11:38 am

Evan Mobley looked really good. Post game, three ball, passing, putting the ball on the floor, rebounding and eltite athleticism. He looks like the total package for a modern day big.

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Post#27 » by ThunderBolt » Thu Nov 26, 2020 11:38 am

Old Man Game wrote:Did you catch that that another one of SGA's cousins is on the OSU roster, that Matthew-Alexander Moncrief kid? That family really had some athletes. 3 D1 scholarships and 2 first rounders.

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I heard the name but didn’t make the connection. Now that you say that I remember hearing that a while back.
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Post#28 » by namlede » Thu Nov 26, 2020 10:40 pm

Something to keep an eye on during the 2021 NBA draft. Terrance Clarke is from Boston, MA and grew up in the New England area. We know Sam loves his MA front office guys, I wonder if he is salavating of the thought of a player from there?

Clarke is a good player too, I'm not sure I'd use a top 10 pick on him in this draft but If he falls into the teens? Houston pick?

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Post#29 » by namlede » Thu Nov 26, 2020 10:49 pm

Suggs looked really good today. Very athletic, nice passer, seems in control, poised.

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Post#30 » by retrobro90 » Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:59 am

namlede wrote:Suggs looked really good today. Very athletic, nice passer, seems in control, poised.

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His J looked really compact and quick too. One motion shooter. Besides his two early fouls from forcing the issue at the rim I thought he basically played a perfect game. Wide variety of pass reads. Can't wait to keep watching him and that stacked Gonzaga roster.
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Post#31 » by getrichordie » Fri Nov 27, 2020 1:16 pm

Don't just pay attention to the big names in this draft. Guys like Jeremiah Robinson-Earl and Aamir Sims are looking like super nice stretch 4s who have defensive versatility thus far.
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Post#32 » by namlede » Fri Nov 27, 2020 2:58 pm

I like Scottie Lewis. He really struggled early last year but got a little better. His athleticism is like 99% and if he can become a decent shooter he is someone I can see Presti grabbing with our pick swap with Houston or Miami.
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Post#33 » by retrobro90 » Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:26 pm

getrichordie wrote:Don't just pay attention to the big names in this draft. Guys like Jeremiah Robinson-Earl and Aamir Sims are looking like super nice stretch 4s who have defensive versatility thus far.


JRE just had his best game of his career yesterday. I like his versatility on D. Don't see him as a shot creator probably ever. Nova's offense was a lot of attacking the zone by giving him the ball at the nail and letting him shoot over the top. Not really a play he'll get at the NBA level. He doesn't take a ton of 3s and he kinda shoots on the way down. Haven't watched Sims yet.
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Post#34 » by ThunderBolt » Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:30 pm

namlede wrote:I like Scottie Lewis. He really struggled early last year but got a little better. His athleticism is like 99% and if he can become a decent shooter he is someone I can see Presti grabbing with our pick swap with Houston or Miami.
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He did improve. He’s a bit of an older sophomore. By the time the draft comes around, he’ll be 21. For a guy like him, I would like to see a lot of consistency this year before I would take him.
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Post#35 » by ThunderBolt » Sat Nov 28, 2020 1:46 pm

Jalen Green might be the best player in this draft but every video of him I watch is just a dunk compilation many of which look like he is cherry picking. I'm not saying he isn't or won't be great, but the film I've seen on him is really lacking and may not get better.
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Post#36 » by ThunderBolt » Sat Nov 28, 2020 2:06 pm

Jonathan Kuminga is a guy I wasn't super excited about reading his scouting report. After watching his videos, I really like him. Vecenie said there are about 7 players in this draft that would have gone number one in this years draft. It's such a good year to tank.
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Post#37 » by Dadouv47 » Sat Nov 28, 2020 2:10 pm

ThunderBolt wrote:Jonathan Kuminga is a guy I wasn't super excited about reading his scouting report. After watching his videos, I really like him. Vecenie said there are about 7 players in this draft that would have gone number one in this years draft. It's such a good year to tank.


Wish we had more picks :lol:

...and would be nice if Houston trades Harden
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Post#38 » by ThunderBolt » Sat Nov 28, 2020 2:15 pm

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Dadouv47 wrote:
ThunderBolt wrote:Jonathan Kuminga is a guy I wasn't super excited about reading his scouting report. After watching his videos, I really like him. Vecenie said there are about 7 players in this draft that would have gone number one in this years draft. It's such a good year to tank.


Wish we had more picks :lol:

...and would be nice if Houston trades Harden


If we get a true number one option from this draft even if its not the best player, its not a failure. This kid's body already looks NBA ready.
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Post#39 » by Old Man Game » Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:56 pm

ThunderBolt wrote:Jalen Green might be the best player in this draft but every video of him I watch is just a dunk compilation many of which look like he is cherry picking. I'm not saying he isn't or won't be great, but the film I've seen on him is really lacking and may not get better.
This is pretty legit.

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Post#40 » by ThunderBolt » Sat Nov 28, 2020 7:44 pm

Old Man Game wrote:
ThunderBolt wrote:Jalen Green might be the best player in this draft but every video of him I watch is just a dunk compilation many of which look like he is cherry picking. I'm not saying he isn't or won't be great, but the film I've seen on him is really lacking and may not get better.
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Oh I agree that the kid is a highlight reel. But with this class you can hold the top guys to a ridiculous standard when trying to make sure their game is complete. Depending on what happens with the g league, the film on Green and Kuminga could be very little.
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