OKC Thunder Offseason 2017: The Reshapening

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Re: OKC Thunder Offseason 2017: The Reshapening 

Post#2101 » by Kizz Fastfists » Mon Jul 3, 2017 8:00 pm

Dadouv47 wrote:I think we are dreaming too big since PG :(


Yea. The lack of follow up is an issue. There are still players out there to be had and the roster isn't finished, but if Gay, Randolph and a few others come off the board adding PG isn't going to make up for the no depth. Russ, PG, Adams, maybe Roberson and a group of d-league quality players isn't going to get them very far.
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Re: OKC Thunder Offseason 2017: The Reshapening 

Post#2102 » by Old Man Game » Mon Jul 3, 2017 8:08 pm

We need something unlikely to happen to really capitalize on this George acquisition. Some player to come out of the blue (no pun intended) and develop or take a step we did not anticipate (Adams becomes Marc Gasol-like, Roberson gets a consistent jumper, Huestis becomes a serviceable rotation player, Dakari Johnson gets signed and becomes an impact player). Something like that. I'm just not convinced they can put together another trade out of nothing to get that missing piece.
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Post#2103 » by ThunderBolt » Mon Jul 3, 2017 8:16 pm

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Knrstz wrote:
And rightfully so


Right. But the reality is that we don't have cap space or assets, so we are not in a better situation than before the trade, at least short term. For the future we are in a way better situation that's for sure (more flexibility).

The only good aspect of the Paul George trade for the short term is that it could attract some free agents to play with us, but most of them wants $$$

I agree. I thought people overreacted to the trade a bit. One year of George and not a single decent power forward to be had all while we still have players like Semaj, Kyle Huestis, Doug, and Kanter soaking up salary. I don't think we end up THAT much better. And in a year we may be tanking.


We still need to make several moves to even be the second best team in the west but this was the biggest and most difficult part to do. I'm hopeful and that's more than I was at this time last week.
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Re: OKC Thunder Offseason 2017: The Reshapening 

Post#2104 » by spearsy23 » Mon Jul 3, 2017 8:30 pm

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Read on Twitter


EDIT: Interesting thing about this—think Thunder/Blue/SL team share a lot of the same playbook, and that looks like a set play. Wonder if they're working on some sets where the center passes from the top of the key.

Mentioned it last game. He brought the ball up after every made free throw. Almost certain the play they ran after is one of our inbound plays.
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Re: OKC Thunder Offseason 2017: The Reshapening 

Post#2105 » by Thunder Up » Mon Jul 3, 2017 9:10 pm

Tyreke Evans, anybody?
Can run the back-up unit, and play some 3 if he's playing well in late game situations (with PG at the 4)
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Re: OKC Thunder Offseason 2017: The Reshapening 

Post#2106 » by Andre Roberstan » Mon Jul 3, 2017 9:18 pm

Thunder Up wrote:Tyreke Evans, anybody?
Can run the back-up unit, and play some 3 if he's playing well in late game situations (with PG at the 4)

Hey, I heard a guy wrote about that.

https://16winsaring.com/oklahoma-city-thunder-5-free-agency-targets-732d362dbfcf

Tyreke Evans:
PG/SG/SF | SAC | 10.3 points | 3.4 rebounds | 3.1 assists | .9 steals | .2 blocks


Let’s start with the bad.
After a promising rookie year, Evans has slowly gone downhill since. He’s a capable passer, but a black hole on offense, as ball-dominant in his own way as the Westbrooks and Hardens of the world. He’s barely played 60 games in the last two years. His knees are made of cheesecloth and held together with duct tape and string.
That being said, the injuries and his reputation have driven his price down to the point where he could be in the Thunder’s range on a cheap “prove it” deal. Evans is a proven scorer and playmaker from the point guard, shooting guard and small forward spots, and over the last couple of years his once-awful outside shooting has progressed to the point where it’s workable. He’s most comfortable as a slasher, but at least has to be guarded from outside the arc.
The Thunder are craving positional versatility, particularly across the guard spots. Evans would give them that, and his playmaking and scoring would fill a need, particularly if Enes Kanter (a similar black hole at the center spot with less passing) were traded. He’s also playable next to Westbrook in short bursts if needed.
Evans isn’t an ideal player, but he might have a chance to angle for a better deal next year by anchoring the Thunder’s bench unit. He’s worth keeping an eye on.
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Re: OKC Thunder Offseason 2017: The Reshapening 

Post#2107 » by slick_watts » Mon Jul 3, 2017 9:31 pm

i'd take a shot on evans 1 year mle.
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Re: OKC Thunder Offseason 2017: The Reshapening 

Post#2108 » by Kizz Fastfists » Mon Jul 3, 2017 9:42 pm

I go back and forth on Tyreke. He'd be a good guy off the bench, but he's got to stay healthy. It really depends on his price. If you can get him for them money MCW signed for, $2.7M, you take a shot on him. If he's going to get the MLE I don't see it happening.
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Re: OKC Thunder Offseason 2017: The Reshapening 

Post#2109 » by Thunder Up » Mon Jul 3, 2017 9:43 pm

Tyreke is a stud, just needs to be in the right situation, and I think that is here as the back-up PG with that versatility you talked about to play the 2 or the 3 in situations
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Re: OKC Thunder Offseason 2017: The Reshapening 

Post#2110 » by spearsy23 » Mon Jul 3, 2017 9:51 pm

I'd hold out for Patterson/gay then start looking at guys like Evans. Get the best player possible first then start the gambling.
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Re: OKC Thunder Offseason 2017: The Reshapening 

Post#2111 » by slick_watts » Mon Jul 3, 2017 9:56 pm

Kizz Fastfists wrote:I go back and forth on Tyreke. He'd be a good guy off the bench, but he's got to stay healthy. It really depends on his price. If you can get him for them money MCW signed for, $2.7M, you take a shot on him. If he's going to get the MLE I don't see it happening.


this is pushing the boundaries of value. maybe mle is pushing it a little bit but i think he's worth a flyer at more than bae. he's a rotation player when he's healthy. mcw is a scrub.
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Re: OKC Thunder Offseason 2017: The Reshapening 

Post#2112 » by ThunderBolt » Mon Jul 3, 2017 9:58 pm

If Hayward signs in Boston, could we go after Smart or Bradley? Also, is the problem with trading Kanter that Presti isn't willing to attatch someone like Ferguson to him or Ferguson isn't enough?
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Re: OKC Thunder Offseason 2017: The Reshapening 

Post#2113 » by Thunder Up » Mon Jul 3, 2017 10:06 pm

Knrstz wrote:If Hayward signs in Boston, could we go after Smart or Bradley? Also, is the problem with trading Kanter that Presti isn't willing to attatch someone like Ferguson to him or Ferguson isn't enough?


Avery Bradley is one of the best 2 guards and perimeter defenders in the NBA.. we have nothing to offer them for him (aside from PG and RW)
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Re: OKC Thunder Offseason 2017: The Reshapening 

Post#2114 » by Thunder Up » Mon Jul 3, 2017 10:14 pm

Honestly I would be extremely happy and have WCF expectations if we signed two players from the following along with bringing back Roberson for a seven figure per year deal

Pick One:
Sergio Rodriguez
Tyreke Evans
Darren Collison
Ty Lawson

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Rudy Gay
Michael Beasley
Patrick Patterson
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Re: OKC Thunder Offseason 2017: The Reshapening 

Post#2115 » by Old Man Game » Mon Jul 3, 2017 11:09 pm

Durant essentially giving Joe Jacob almost ten million bucks is something.
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Re: OKC Thunder Offseason 2017: The Reshapening 

Post#2116 » by Andre Roberstan » Mon Jul 3, 2017 11:17 pm

Old Man Game wrote:Durant essentially giving Joe Jacob almost term million bucks is something.


I have feelings on this :evil:
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Re: OKC Thunder Offseason 2017: The Reshapening 

Post#2117 » by Old Man Game » Mon Jul 3, 2017 11:37 pm

Andre Roberstan wrote:
Old Man Game wrote:Durant essentially giving Joe Jacob almost ten million bucks is something.


I have feelings on this :evil:

He knows he has to win like five or six championships and he's doing everything he can to secure plenty of help.
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Re: OKC Thunder Offseason 2017: The Reshapening 

Post#2118 » by wco81 » Tue Jul 4, 2017 12:47 am

Old Man Game wrote:Durant essentially giving Joe Jacob almost ten million bucks is something.


Could be he thought the team might move on from Iggy and other key role players.

Or he could be looking for Lacob to hook him up with the VCs.
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Re: OKC Thunder Offseason 2017: The Reshapening 

Post#2119 » by bondom34 » Tue Jul 4, 2017 1:04 am

wco81 wrote:
Old Man Game wrote:Durant essentially giving Joe Jacob almost ten million bucks is something.


Could be he thought the team might move on from Iggy and other key role players.

Or he could be looking for Lacob to hook him up with the VCs.

He pretty clearly couldn't do it himself.
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Re: OKC Thunder Offseason 2017: The Reshapening 

Post#2120 » by bondom34 » Tue Jul 4, 2017 1:05 am

Should have drafted Horford in 07
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