OKC Thunder Offseason 2017: The Reshapening

[Thunder Up]

Honestly I think OKC are the third best team in the West right now, and we know there are more moves pending

[Osirus89]

Honestly I think OKC are the third best team in the West right now, and we know there are more moves pending

Speaking of which:
So.....
Can anyone present a realistic scenario where T-Ferguson isn't getting traded as soon as July 7 hits.
I'm trying to think of reasons he isn't playing summer league and an unsigned contract should not be one of them.
If that is the price of moving kanter, then singler better be going with them.

[Old Man Game]

Honestly I think OKC are the third best team in the West right now, and we know there are more moves pending

Speaking of which:
So.....
Can anyone present a realistic scenario where T-Ferguson isn't getting traded as soon as July 7 hits.
I'm trying to think of reasons he isn't playing summer league and an unsigned contract should not be one of them.
If that is the price of moving kanter, then singler better be going with them.

Supposedly it's FIBA clearance bull ****. Just reported.
http://www.normantranscript.com/oklahoma/terrance-ferguson-still-needs-fiba-clearance/article_25063cc0-6052-11e7-84a8-cf985d4b4a38.html

[bondom34]

Just saw the box but looks like Dakari, Huestis, and Brown were all pretty solid.

[Dn4sty]

Just saw the box but looks like Dakari, Huestis, and Brown were all pretty solid.

I've always been a fan of brown. He seems a little Tony Allen-ish (maybe it's just because they both played at OSU). I think he definitely has a place in the league

[Old Man Game]

I wish that I could say that brown looks like an NBA player, but I just don't really think he does. He just can't do enough with the dribble to get to the rim, and he isn't really all that consistent as a jump shooter either spotting up or off the dribble. He doesn't really make plays for others, he isn't an elite Defender. He really just can't do much at an NBA level. And I say that as a huge OSU fan who would like nothing more than for Markel Brown to be an incredible player in this league.

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[ThunderBolt]

If Hayward signs in Boston, could we go after Smart or Bradley? Also, is the problem with trading Kanter that Presti isn't willing to attatch someone like Ferguson to him or Ferguson isn't enough?

Avery Bradley is one of the best 2 guards and perimeter defenders in the NBA.. we have nothing to offer them for him (aside from PG and RW)

He's basically an expiring contract. Teams just aren't giving up as much in real life as fans expect.

[ThunderBolt]

Rudy Gay is scheduled to meet with Clippers tomorrow. We are going to mess around and not have a power forward.

[InTheSabonus]

Rudy Gay is scheduled to meet with Clippers tomorrow. We are going to mess around and not have a power forward.

It probably all depends on how difficult it is to get rid of Kanter. Teams are probably asking for Abrines. I guess we'll have to see how desperate Presti is to do it.

[slick_watts]

Rudy Gay is scheduled to meet with Clippers tomorrow. We are going to mess around and not have a power forward.

i think you're stressing too much over rudy gay. gay is coming off a torn achilles and isn't even that great to begin with. i dunno why presti is chasing him at all unless it's a ploy to dump kanter or he thinks he can get him cheap. or maybe it's a way to impress westbrook.

there are less expensive options that wouldn't compromise our cap flexibility as much, who might not be much worse in terms of impact.

i'd rather have luc mbah a moute at BAE than rudy gay at three times the price.

[ThunderBolt]

Rudy Gay is scheduled to meet with Clippers tomorrow. We are going to mess around and not have a power forward.

i think you're stressing too much over rudy gay. gay is coming off a torn achilles and isn't even that great to begin with. i dunno why presti is chasing him at all unless it's a ploy to dump kanter or he thinks he can get him cheap. or maybe it's a way to impress westbrook.

there are less expensive options that wouldn't compromise our cap flexibility as much, who might not be much worse in terms of impact.

i'd rather have luc mbah a moute at BAE than rudy gay at three times the price.

Not so much Gay specifically. I just hate seeing players come off the table when we need a PF. I'm hopeful that grant can be a 3 and D guy but I would feel better if he weren't our starter. Patterson is a guy I would be interested in as well. Denver has 26 power forwards too.

[Old Man Game]

Durant essentially giving Joe Jacob almost ten million bucks is something.

Could be he thought the team might move on from Iggy and other key role players.

Or he could be looking for Lacob to hook him up with the VCs.

He pretty clearly couldn't do it himself.

This will sound petty but I'll say it anyway, I wouldn't be surprised if the thought of having to once again carry a roster without an overwhelming talent differential is marginally terrifying to him.

[Old Man Game]

Rudy Gay is scheduled to meet with Clippers tomorrow. We are going to mess around and not have a power forward.

i think you're stressing too much over rudy gay. gay is coming off a torn achilles and isn't even that great to begin with. i dunno why presti is chasing him at all unless it's a ploy to dump kanter or he thinks he can get him cheap. or maybe it's a way to impress westbrook.

there are less expensive options that wouldn't compromise our cap flexibility as much, who might not be much worse in terms of impact.

i'd rather have luc mbah a moute at BAE than rudy gay at three times the price.

This Rudy Gay thing just reminds me of that scene in Moneyball where all the old scouts are sitting around talking players for some reason. Like if they were basketball scouts those guys would make Rudy Gay one of their top priorities.

[Kizz Fastfists]

I'm not worried about missing on Gay. I think Gay was their best chance at dumping Kanter without having to give up serious value because Sacramento wants/needs to spend money and they could be dumb enough to think Kanter is good. It could still happen after Washington matches Porter's contract and then Sacramento misses on KCP and whoever else they are going to throw max offer sheets at.

[spearsy23]

Rudy Gay is scheduled to meet with Clippers tomorrow. We are going to mess around and not have a power forward.

i think you're stressing too much over rudy gay. gay is coming off a torn achilles and isn't even that great to begin with. i dunno why presti is chasing him at all unless it's a ploy to dump kanter or he thinks he can get him cheap. or maybe it's a way to impress westbrook.

there are less expensive options that wouldn't compromise our cap flexibility as much, who might not be much worse in terms of impact.

i'd rather have luc mbah a moute at BAE than rudy gay at three times the price.

We can't start Adams, Roberson, and LRMAM. It barely worked with ibaka and a significantly better version of Paul George.

[slick_watts]

Rudy Gay is scheduled to meet with Clippers tomorrow. We are going to mess around and not have a power forward.

i think you're stressing too much over rudy gay. gay is coming off a torn achilles and isn't even that great to begin with. i dunno why presti is chasing him at all unless it's a ploy to dump kanter or he thinks he can get him cheap. or maybe it's a way to impress westbrook.

there are less expensive options that wouldn't compromise our cap flexibility as much, who might not be much worse in terms of impact.

i'd rather have luc mbah a moute at BAE than rudy gay at three times the price.

We can't start Adams, Roberson, and LRMAM. It barely worked with ibaka and a significantly better version of Paul George.

do you think taj gibson last year was significantly better than LRMAM on offensive impact?

'barely worked' with ibaka? those starting units were like +20pp100 lol.

[spearsy23]

At this point I honestly think we could miss the playoffs if we don't hit on a significant free agent. A healthy gay as a third option would ensure playoffs, Patterson probably does too, anybody else I think you're hoping to take a chance and need two risks to pay off ie Evans being healthy and huestis surpassing expectations while someone like Anthony tolliver just keeps the position warm enough to not be a complete liability.

[Osirus89]

Honestly I think OKC are the third best team in the West right now, and we know there are more moves pending

Speaking of which:
So.....
Can anyone present a realistic scenario where T-Ferguson isn't getting traded as soon as July 7 hits.
I'm trying to think of reasons he isn't playing summer league and an unsigned contract should not be one of them.
If that is the price of moving kanter, then singler better be going with them.

Supposedly it's FIBA clearance bull ****. Just reported.
http://www.normantranscript.com/oklahoma/terrance-ferguson-still-needs-fiba-clearance/article_25063cc0-6052-11e7-84a8-cf985d4b4a38.html

Ah. Thanks for that.

Rudy Gay is scheduled to meet with Clippers tomorrow. We are going to mess around and not have a power forward.

I don't think the clippers are that attractive of a destination. I wouldn't put a ton of stock into it. They lost chris paul and are still over the cap. They can't offer him any more money than we can on a worse team. Unless they trade some of the few good players they have left.

Sac only has about 38 million committed at the moment if the hoopshype salaries are correct, so even if they snag Porter away from Washington somehow, they will still have plenty of cap room to absorb Kanter and another salary.

I would much rather have gallinari tbh, but he has his injury concerns as well, so its kind of a toss up.

[spearsy23]

i think you're stressing too much over rudy gay. gay is coming off a torn achilles and isn't even that great to begin with. i dunno why presti is chasing him at all unless it's a ploy to dump kanter or he thinks he can get him cheap. or maybe it's a way to impress westbrook.

there are less expensive options that wouldn't compromise our cap flexibility as much, who might not be much worse in terms of impact.

i'd rather have luc mbah a moute at BAE than rudy gay at three times the price.

We can't start Adams, Roberson, and LRMAM. It barely worked with ibaka and a significantly better version of Paul George.

do you think taj gibson last year was significantly better than LRMAM on offensive impact?

'barely worked' with ibaka? those starting units were like +20pp100 lol.

For us? Absolutely. For Chicago? No clue. But he is definitely a better offensive player on his own than mbah a moute.

And by barely worked I was talking about the process, not the results. Ibaka gave us just enough spacing, and cupcake could score on anyone at will, so it worked. George isn't that caliber and we won't survive this conference without a third player to put pressure on defenses.

[spearsy23]

Speaking of which:
So.....
Can anyone present a realistic scenario where T-Ferguson isn't getting traded as soon as July 7 hits.
I'm trying to think of reasons he isn't playing summer league and an unsigned contract should not be one of them.
If that is the price of moving kanter, then singler better be going with them.

Supposedly it's FIBA clearance bull ****. Just reported.
http://www.normantranscript.com/oklahoma/terrance-ferguson-still-needs-fiba-clearance/article_25063cc0-6052-11e7-84a8-cf985d4b4a38.html

Ah. Thanks for that.

Rudy Gay is scheduled to meet with Clippers tomorrow. We are going to mess around and not have a power forward.

I don't think the clippers are that attractive of a destination. I wouldn't put a ton of stock into it. They lost chris paul and are still over the cap. They can't offer him any more money than we can on a worse team. Unless they trade some of the few good players they have left.

Sac only has about 38 million committed at the moment if the hoopshype salaries are correct, so even if they snag Porter away from Washington somehow, they will still have plenty of cap room to absorb Kanter and another salary.

I would much rather have gallinari tbh, but he has his injury concerns as well, so its kind of a toss up.

I'd love gallo, but there's zero chance of getting him. We have no space and nothing to offer Denver in a sign and trade.