10/19 - 7PM CST | G1: New York Knicks at Oklahoma City Thunder

[Rotten Apple]

Melo had a pretty terrible game offensively, so I don't know why this is even a discussion. He did play solid defensively outside the first quarter, but his defense was not the difference in a twenty point game.

Another thing about the first quarter to look at. He was 1-6 in the first and then 7-14 the rest of the game. Could be he was over excitied for the start of the game then settled down and played better on both ends of the floor. It happens.

Don't know why you go out of the way to blast a new player without even giving him a chance. All the stuff he did on other teams doesn't matter or doesn't mean he will do the same things on your team. Just strange but there are always a few in every fanbase that hate certain moves certain players no matter what they do.

Bottom line Melo make The Thunder a more dangerous team.

I think he started 1/7 actually(3 of the misses being getting blocked, a dunk that popped out and half court heave to end the 1st)

He found his rhythm after that and played good defense all game(2 steals, 2 blocks show he was active)

I agree that I do wish they'd let him and others settle in a bit before blasting him after game 1 but it's Melo and he draws this kind of heat for whatever reason.

Billy D should make sure majority of his shots come from pick n pops, flex screens for post ups, pin downs, trailing 3s and maybe let him handle the ball in the pick n roll some. Isolate him and others(PG/Russ) as you see fit, especially if there's a speed or size advantage.

[spearsy23]

Melo had a pretty terrible game offensively, so I don't know why this is even a discussion. He did play solid defensively outside the first quarter, but his defense was not the difference in a twenty point game.

Another thing about the first quarter to look at. He was 1-6 in the first and then 7-14 the rest of the game. Could be he was over excitied for the start of the game then settled down and played better on both ends of the floor. It happens.

Don't know why you go out of the way to blast a new player without even giving him a chance. All the stuff he did on other teams doesn't matter or doesn't mean he will do the same things on your team. Just strange but there are always a few in every fanbase that hate certain moves certain players no matter what they do.

Bottom line Melo make The Thunder a more dangerous team.

I would ask why people are going out of the way to praise Melo after a game where he shot 40/30/60 with 1 rebound and 1 assist. If Melo had been his average self even then whatever, but specifically coming here to praise him after a bad game maker it look like obvious stanning.

[spearsy23]

Melo had a pretty terrible game offensively, so I don't know why this is even a discussion. He did play solid defensively outside the first quarter, but his defense was not the difference in a twenty point game.

Because he still generated 20+pts. That's the point. Patterson couldn't do that. As long as you don't twist my words again, I'm happy to end the discussion

22 points while using 22 possessions is not a positive. There's a reason he was +2 in a 20 point win, mostly due to that awful first quarter. Get off his dick and let his play do some talking, he's a good player, you don't have to stan for him on his bad nights to let everyone know.

[Rotten Apple]

Melo had a pretty terrible game offensively, so I don't know why this is even a discussion. He did play solid defensively outside the first quarter, but his defense was not the difference in a twenty point game.

Because he still generated 20+pts. That's the point. Patterson couldn't do that. As long as you don't twist my words again, I'm happy to end the discussion

22 points while using 22 possessions is not a positive. There's a reason he was +2 in a 20 point win, mostly due to that awful first quarter. Get off his dick and let his play do some talking, he's a good player, you don't have to stan for him on his bad nights to let everyone know.

It wasn't a bad night tho, I think that's the issue at hand with your analysis.

[spearsy23]

Because he still generated 20+pts. That's the point. Patterson couldn't do that. As long as you don't twist my words again, I'm happy to end the discussion

22 points while using 22 possessions is not a positive. There's a reason he was +2 in a 20 point win, mostly due to that awful first quarter. Get off his dick and let his play do some talking, he's a good player, you don't have to stan for him on his bad nights to let everyone know.

It wasn't a bad night tho, I think that's the issue at hand with your analysis.

22 points, 20 shots, 49.5 ts, 1 rebound, 1 assist, 2 turnovers, +1 in a 20 point win. He played good defense after the first quarter. He was so ridiculously bad in the first quarter that his 2nd half didn't make up for it.

[Rotten Apple]

22 points while using 22 possessions is not a positive. There's a reason he was +2 in a 20 point win, mostly due to that awful first quarter. Get off his dick and let his play do some talking, he's a good player, you don't have to stan for him on his bad nights to let everyone know.

It wasn't a bad night tho, I think that's the issue at hand with your analysis.

22 points, 20 shots, 49.5 ts, 1 rebound, 1 assist, 2 turnovers, +1 in a 20 point win. He played good defense after the first quarter. He was so ridiculously bad in the first quarter that his 2nd half didn't make up for it.

2 blocks, 2 steals, finished 7/13 after a 1/7 start.

You kinda see where I'm going with this.

A rough start can make a game look worse than what it was. He played a good game, no more no less.

If he makes that dunk, doesn't shoot that half court shot and hits 1 of his 2 missed free throws whats his TS%? 59%.

So while he was clearly capable of shooting better, the ball just didn't bounce his way a couple times. As for rebounds and assists, Russ was flying in taking some and what is he supposed to do when his teammate misses a shot he creates for them?

You've already said you've never been a fan so I get it but damn.

[spearsy23]

If he makes that dunk, doesn't shoot that half court shot and hits 1 of his 2 missed free throws whats his TS%? 59%.

If my grandmother had wheels she'd be a bike.

[bondom34]

Melo wasn't good.

And no, if your grandmother had wheels she'd be a grandmother on wheels.

[Rotten Apple]

If my grandmother had wheels she'd be a bike.

Thanks.

[spearsy23]

Melo wasn't good.

And no, if your grandmother had wheels she'd be a grandmother on wheels.

Not as much as she gets ridden.


she's actually dead

[Rotten Apple]

Melo wasn't good.

Because why?

[bondom34]

Melo wasn't good.

Because why?

Defense was average, took a lot of bad shots when he just dribbled around and/or never looked for teammates, middling efficiency and didn't really bring much else.

I don't have anything against him, but of everyone on the team who doesn't actually suck he was not good.

[bondom34]

Melo wasn't good.

And no, if your grandmother had wheels she'd be a grandmother on wheels.

Not as much as she gets ridden.


she's actually dead

Well this is awkward.

[Rotten Apple]

Melo wasn't good.

Because why?

Defense was average, took a lot of bad shots when he just dribbled around and/or never looked for teammates, middling efficiency and didn't really bring much else.

I don't have anything against him, but of everyone on the team who doesn't actually suck he was not good.

Defense was average how exactly? I only recall 2 bad shots the entire night(the 3 that barely hit the rim and an iso against O'Quinn in the 3rd I wanna say. He found teammates for 8 potential assists and only Abrines converted. Add in the 2 steals and 2 blocks and his rotations were on point almost all night.

He started slow but found his rhythm after the shaky start.

[bondom34]

Yeah not doing this, spearsy already did.

[slick_watts]

can i ask what the rationale is for dismissing carmelo's 1-7 start? we're appraising his performance and this game, that 1-7 start is part of the game. are the other 14 shots have more relative value than the first 7?

melo had 22 points on 28 usage and scored below the mendoza line. it was not a good game from him.

[RalphSampsonJr]

I think people are still being blinded by excitement now hes on the thunder and can do no wrong.
He was inefficient and did take bad shots..
i didnt think his defense was bad though, i have been pleasantly surprised with his effort on that end.

[ThunderBolt]

can i ask what the rationale is for dismissing carmelo's 1-7 start? we're appraising his performance and this game, that 1-7 start is part of the game. are the other 14 shots have more relative value than the first 7?

melo had 22 points on 28 usage and scored below the mendoza line. it was not a good game from him.

I think the hope is that it was a result of being too amped for the game against the Knicks. If I see similar shot selection against Utah then I’ll be much more concerned.

[M2J]

His shot selection wasn't that bad. . . no worse than Paul's. . .the problem was the open shots and dunks they both missed. They got open jumpers & weren't executing well. I never said he played great and neither did anyone else here at all, nor, was anyone "stanning". Another attempt to change the subject in order to promote this HeManMeloHaters Club specifically Spearsy and Bondom, which is dumb based on the fact that any hopes this team has is based off of all of them playing their games and contributing and it's a campaign that no one of relevance agrees with or cares about as will be illustrated at the end of the season when he gets what he wants.

So to clarify this topic came about from me saying how big of a deal it was and easy it makes it to have 3 guys that can take over at times of each game. . .then referenced an idiotic conversation where the before mentioned stated that OKC would be better off without Melo and with Patterson taking these shots. Of course showcasing a clear lack of knowledge...because Patterson or Robeson together aren't capable of getting off 20 decent quality shots unless left wide open. Maybe the majority of players aren't on a regular basis capable of that, without taking quick transition jumpers. Then of course instead of staying on topic, and owning up to this foolishness, it becomes about a bad early start and rare mention of the strong finish on both ends and I'll let you continue that

[spearsy23]

His shot selection wasn't that bad. . . no worse than Paul's. . .the problem was the open shots and dunks they both missed. They got open jumpers & weren't executing well. I never said he played great and neither did anyone else here at all, nor, was anyone "stanning". Another attempt to change the subject in order to promote this HeManMeloHaters Club specifically Spearsy and Bondom, which is dumb based on the fact that any hopes this team has is based off of all of them playing their games and contributing and it's a campaign that no one of relevance agrees with or cares about as will be illustrated at the end of the season when he gets what he wants.

So to clarify this topic came about from me saying how big of a deal it was and easy it makes it to have 3 guys that can take over at times of each game. . .then referenced an idiotic conversation where the before mentioned stated that OKC would be better off without Melo and with Patterson taking these shots. Of course showcasing a clear lack of knowledge...because Patterson or Robeson together aren't capable of getting off 20 decent quality shots unless left wide open. Maybe the majority of players aren't on a regular basis capable of that, without taking quick transition jumpers. Then of course instead of staying on topic, and owning up to this foolishness, it becomes about a bad early start and rare mention of the strong finish on both ends and I'll let you continue that

Your boy played a bad game and you claimed it was the reason for the easy win. It's all still there for everyone to read.

Edit: And literally nobody on this board has said they're better off without Melo.