2020 NBA Draft Thread

[mr570]

Is this draft worth cashing in assets to move up to the late lottery, instead of paying extra to move up higher in the future?

What I mean is, with the down draft - it will cost less to get someone at 14, than it will to get someone similar at 5 next year?

In a word, no. For what we would have to give up to move in to the lottery, I don't think there is a prospect great enough to move up to get unless there is a player we love that slides and I think the players Presti would fall in love with are going earlier than that.

Now, if we happen to be able to keep 25, trade Paul and snag a late lottery pick, then absolutely I'd look hard at pulling the trigger depending on the rest of the deal. Depends who is there.

If they can get James Wiseman and trade Adams + 25 + one future Miami pick (just bc I don't think these will be as valuable as Houston's future picks) to GSW for 2nd overall would you do it? I would.

[ThunderBolt]

Is this draft worth cashing in assets to move up to the late lottery, instead of paying extra to move up higher in the future?

What I mean is, with the down draft - it will cost less to get someone at 14, than it will to get someone similar at 5 next year?

In a word, no. For what we would have to give up to move in to the lottery, I don't think there is a prospect great enough to move up to get unless there is a player we love that slides and I think the players Presti would fall in love with are going earlier than that.

Now, if we happen to be able to keep 25, trade Paul and snag a late lottery pick, then absolutely I'd look hard at pulling the trigger depending on the rest of the deal. Depends who is there.

If they can get James Wiseman and trade Adams + 25 + one future Miami pick (just bc I don't think these will be as valuable as Houston's future picks) to GSW for 2nd overall would you do it? I would.

I think most of us would do that but I don’t think it’s that easy. Who really wants Adams? He’s overpaid and has underperformed for a while. I don’t think most teams view him as a positive asset.

[mr570]

In a word, no. For what we would have to give up to move in to the lottery, I don't think there is a prospect great enough to move up to get unless there is a player we love that slides and I think the players Presti would fall in love with are going earlier than that.

Now, if we happen to be able to keep 25, trade Paul and snag a late lottery pick, then absolutely I'd look hard at pulling the trigger depending on the rest of the deal. Depends who is there.

If they can get James Wiseman and trade Adams + 25 + one future Miami pick (just bc I don't think these will be as valuable as Houston's future picks) to GSW for 2nd overall would you do it? I would.

I think most of us would do that but I don’t think it’s that easy. Who really wants Adams? He’s overpaid and has underperformed for a while. I don’t think most teams view him as a positive asset.

Was thinking something like this:

https://tradenba.com/trades/MBWuiewKY

[ThunderBolt]

If they can get James Wiseman and trade Adams + 25 + one future Miami pick (just bc I don't think these will be as valuable as Houston's future picks) to GSW for 2nd overall would you do it? I would.

I think most of us would do that but I don’t think it’s that easy. Who really wants Adams? He’s overpaid and has underperformed for a while. I don’t think most teams view him as a positive asset.

Was thinking something like this:

https://tradenba.com/trades/MBWuiewKY

If we are taking back wiggins, I’m not sending any assets to golden state. I don’t think Adams is special great but Wiggins is still owed over $90 million dollars. I also think Golden State would try to get back a better player than Adams.

[cjmcallist]

I think most of us would do that but I don’t think it’s that easy. Who really wants Adams? He’s overpaid and has underperformed for a while. I don’t think most teams view him as a positive asset.

Was thinking something like this:

https://tradenba.com/trades/MBWuiewKY

If we are taking back wiggins, I’m not sending any assets to golden state. I don’t think Adams is special great but Wiggins is still owed over $90 million dollars. I also think Golden State would try to get back a better player than Adams.

I agree. If GSW are sending Wiggins + 2, I would not send back any assets beyond #25 this year. There's too much upcoming talent in the next couple of years (2021 draft, 2022/23 double draft) to risk missing out.

I feel torn about adding Wiggins though. A month ago, I would've said no way in hell. But, after getrich brought up the salary floor, it changed my thinking a little bit.

I'm assuming two things: 1) we move CP3 this offseason/season, 2) we do not resign Gallo

If those are true, then with Adams and Schroeder expiring next offseason - we are going to be waaaaaaaaaaay below the salary floor. Right now, we only have $19m in salary for 2021/2022 season. We have to pay somebody. If we can get a #2 pick this year, or the MIN pick and take on Wiggins. I think I'd do it.

I'm also starting to really look at that Wall contract. hehehe

[ThunderBolt]

I have a hard time seeing Adams being the piece golden state wants. He would definitely help but if I’m the warriors, I would rather try to find a better player, even if it means adding the Minnesota pick to the deal.

[Roddy B for 3]

OKC is in the clock on the current NBA draft subforum. Please come vote!

[ThunderBolt]

A guy who seems like a really nice option of still available is Jalen Smith. A guy that intrigues me if we trade up is
Kira Lewis Jr. Those of you who know more about the than me, thoughts on those two?

[getrichordie]

A guy who seems like a really nice option of still available is Jalen Smith. A guy that intrigues me if we trade up is
Kira Lewis Jr. Those of you who know more about the than me, thoughts on those two?

Long story short, Jalen Smith will probably be selected before Lewis Jr., IMO. I could be wrong, though. I think if Jalen Smith falls to 25, that's a dream come true for Presti. If Lewis Jr. falls to 25, I think we have to take him even if we have Shai. Lewis Jr. is just a guy who is going to add positive value at the next level, IMO. Both will probably be gone, though.

A lot of draft nerds (including myself) love Kira Lewis Jr. In my mind, he's already a better shooter than De'Aaron Fox who he gets compared to all the time because of his lightning speed (though he's not as quick as Fox but it's close). He literally can blow by almost anyone if he wants. He's already shown flashes of playmaking at a high level, but he needs to improve and I think he will. He has trouble finishing at the rim, but has shown he's not afraid of contact but he needs to get stronger. He's really light (165) which also affects his on-ball defense and overall defensive versatility. On the other hand, his speed allows him to intercept passing lanes for pick 6s when he's defending off-ball.

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Draft nerds underrate Smith, IMO. I, on the other hand love, love, love Jalen Smith. Strong 6'10 F/C w/ 7-2 wingspan who plays excellent team defense but needs to work on his perimeter footwork and on-ball defense and getting his legs stronger. He's great at protecting the rim and he can also step out and hit the 3 and has even shown flashes of shooting the 3 coming off screens. He has potential to be a really good pick and pop 4 or 5. He's also flashed the ability to put the ball on the floor 1-2x and get to the rim going right.

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[getrichordie]

Just learned some pretty big draft news. The Thunder have interviewed Immanuel Quickley twice.

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If we are interested in Quickley it could signal that Presti is now placing a premium on shooting.

[ThunderBolt]

We've drafted decent shooters in the second round before, like Hall and Abrines. I don't think it necessarily signals a philosophical shift. Ultimately it only matters if they are good enough to get on the floor.

[Balkman32]

If they can get James Wiseman and trade Adams + 25 + one future Miami pick (just bc I don't think these will be as valuable as Houston's future picks) to GSW for 2nd overall would you do it? I would.

I think most of us would do that but I don’t think it’s that easy. Who really wants Adams? He’s overpaid and has underperformed for a while. I don’t think most teams view him as a positive asset.

Was thinking something like this:

https://tradenba.com/trades/MBWuiewKY

You don't trade future FRP's for Wiggins and the #2 pick in this years draft. Wiggins is a negative asset.

[getrichordie]

We've drafted decent shooters in the second round before, like Hall and Abrines. I don't think it necessarily signals a philosophical shift. Ultimately it only matters if they are good enough to get on the floor.

Difference is we might take Quickley with #25. He's an undersized guy who can shoot, but he does more than shoot as well. Decent passer. Really quick getting to the rim. Killer floater game. Has nice playmaking upside, too. He could be our 6th man that replaces Schroder.

[ThunderBolt]

We've drafted decent shooters in the second round before, like Hall and Abrines. I don't think it necessarily signals a philosophical shift. Ultimately it only matters if they are good enough to get on the floor.

Difference is we might take Quickley with #25. He's an undersized guy who can shoot, but he does more than shoot as well. Decent passer. Really quick getting to the rim. Killer floater game. Has nice playmaking upside, too. He could be our 6th man that replaces Schroder.

He may be great but I just hate the idea of picking a guy like that early if we only have one pick based upon where we are right now as a franchise.

[retrobro90]

We've drafted decent shooters in the second round before, like Hall and Abrines. I don't think it necessarily signals a philosophical shift. Ultimately it only matters if they are good enough to get on the floor.

Difference is we might take Quickley with #25. He's an undersized guy who can shoot, but he does more than shoot as well. Decent passer. Really quick getting to the rim. Killer floater game. Has nice playmaking upside, too. He could be our 6th man that replaces Schroder.

He may be great but I just hate the idea of picking a guy like that early if we only have one pick based upon where we are right now as a franchise.

There's no way they take Quickley at 25. If they really like him they can trade down because no one is taking him that early. They have pick 53 which is way more likely. Thunder have also been linked to Pokusevski via KOC which is a way more likely pick at 25. There's just a lot of better upside plays at that spot outside of Quickley.

[ThunderBolt]

Difference is we might take Quickley with #25. He's an undersized guy who can shoot, but he does more than shoot as well. Decent passer. Really quick getting to the rim. Killer floater game. Has nice playmaking upside, too. He could be our 6th man that replaces Schroder.

He may be great but I just hate the idea of picking a guy like that early if we only have one pick based upon where we are right now as a franchise.

There's no way they take Quickley at 25. If they really like him they can trade down because no one is taking him that early. They have pick 53 which is way more likely. Thunder have also been linked to Pokusevski via KOC which is a way more likely pick at 25. There's just a lot of better upside plays at that spot outside of Quickley.

Pokusevski is a very interesting prospect. I would be ok taking him if he falls to us. I do wish his three point shooting had been a bit better but he's so young that I don't think any of his weaknesses are to engrained. Do you know any details on the knee injury he had? I couldn't find much other than he missed 3 months. That's a bit concerning for a guy built like a thinner Thon Maker.

[retrobro90]

He may be great but I just hate the idea of picking a guy like that early if we only have one pick based upon where we are right now as a franchise.

There's no way they take Quickley at 25. If they really like him they can trade down because no one is taking him that early. They have pick 53 which is way more likely. Thunder have also been linked to Pokusevski via KOC which is a way more likely pick at 25. There's just a lot of better upside plays at that spot outside of Quickley.

Pokusevski is a very interesting prospect. I would be ok taking him if he falls to us. I do wish his three point shooting had been a bit better but he's so young that I don't think any of his weaknesses are to engrained. Do you know any details on the knee injury he had? I couldn't find much other than he missed 3 months. That's a bit concerning for a guy built like a thinner Thon Maker.

This is honestly the first I'm hearing about him having a knee injury. He's probably not who I'd choose at 25 but most mocked in that range are either a total crap shoot or an older Grant Riller type.

[ThunderBolt]

There's no way they take Quickley at 25. If they really like him they can trade down because no one is taking him that early. They have pick 53 which is way more likely. Thunder have also been linked to Pokusevski via KOC which is a way more likely pick at 25. There's just a lot of better upside plays at that spot outside of Quickley.

Pokusevski is a very interesting prospect. I would be ok taking him if he falls to us. I do wish his three point shooting had been a bit better but he's so young that I don't think any of his weaknesses are to engrained. Do you know any details on the knee injury he had? I couldn't find much other than he missed 3 months. That's a bit concerning for a guy built like a thinner Thon Maker.

This is honestly the first I'm hearing about him having a knee injury. He's probably not who I'd choose at 25 but most mocked in that range are either a total crap shoot or an older Grant Riller type.

Who knows? We were also linked to Rawle Alkins two years ago and ended up with Diallo.

[retrobro90]

Pokusevski is a very interesting prospect. I would be ok taking him if he falls to us. I do wish his three point shooting had been a bit better but he's so young that I don't think any of his weaknesses are to engrained. Do you know any details on the knee injury he had? I couldn't find much other than he missed 3 months. That's a bit concerning for a guy built like a thinner Thon Maker.

This is honestly the first I'm hearing about him having a knee injury. He's probably not who I'd choose at 25 but most mocked in that range are either a total crap shoot or an older Grant Riller type.

Who knows? We were also linked to Rawle Alkins two years ago and ended up with Diallo.

Yeah this "linking" is really just workouts. I guess they mean a little more this year because of the finite amount of prospects teams can get in their facilities due to covid but with a draft like this who knows.

[getrichordie]

Difference is we might take Quickley with #25. He's an undersized guy who can shoot, but he does more than shoot as well. Decent passer. Really quick getting to the rim. Killer floater game. Has nice playmaking upside, too. He could be our 6th man that replaces Schroder.

He may be great but I just hate the idea of picking a guy like that early if we only have one pick based upon where we are right now as a franchise.

There's no way they take Quickley at 25. If they really like him they can trade down because no one is taking him that early. They have pick 53 which is way more likely. Thunder have also been linked to Pokusevski via KOC which is a way more likely pick at 25. There's just a lot of better upside plays at that spot outside of Quickley.

I would not be shocked if we did. Quickley is a very skilled player who could fit in nicely next to SGA.

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