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Post#2241 » by Big nick » Fri Feb 7, 2025 3:12 am

Sam believes we have the team to win it all. I believe we might but cam Johnson would have done that, but under the cba new contract would wreck out team. We have to have money for Chet jdub sga and a deep bench. I love our team but I worry about winning it all we do have flaws. If we can stay healthy we can could go all the way.
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Post#2242 » by Devilanche » Fri Feb 7, 2025 4:07 am

I think Sam issue is that he’s patient to a fault . Even if you believe in the top 10-11 players we have… you still do have gaps and sufficient asset that we can move for either trying to upgrade anywhere between the 8th-12th spot for our roster .

I’m not too sure why we are still high on Dieng ( but if we were we shouldn’t have drafted Dillon . That’s easily 3 spot in potential non contributor in Dieng , Dillon and topic .

I do admit he’s learning albeit slowly. His 2 ways now are more experienced players.
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Post#2244 » by cjmcallist » Fri Feb 7, 2025 4:15 pm

I think our deadline was fine! We didn't need to make a move and no one switched teams that I think we should have added.

- I don't think the top of the West changed significantly. If anything I think that the Mavs are less threatening.
- Long term the Spurs worry me. :/
- I liked the Hunter pick for the Cavs. If we get there, BOS and CLE will be tough in the Finals.

Anytime all-NBA players move, I feel the need to get involved (there's only ~20 of them!), but I don't know how realistic it really was for us this year.
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Post#2245 » by Dadouv47 » Fri Feb 7, 2025 5:08 pm

cjmcallist wrote:I think our deadline was fine! We didn't need to make a move and no one switched teams that I think we should have added.

- I don't think the top of the West changed significantly. If anything I think that the Mavs are less threatening.
- Long term the Spurs worry me. :/
- I liked the Hunter pick for the Cavs. If we get there, BOS and CLE will be tough in the Finals.

Anytime all-NBA players move, I feel the need to get involved (there's only ~20 of them!), but I don't know how realistic it really was for us this year.


yeah Spurs gonna be scary faster than most think. They gave up their worst assets for Fox. They might just add Trae Young this offseason and become real contenders (I don't love Trae but the fit in San Antonio with Wemby is scary).
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Post#2246 » by Woerzboerg » Fri Feb 7, 2025 6:34 pm

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cjmcallist wrote:I think our deadline was fine! We didn't need to make a move and no one switched teams that I think we should have added.

- I don't think the top of the West changed significantly. If anything I think that the Mavs are less threatening.
- Long term the Spurs worry me. :/
- I liked the Hunter pick for the Cavs. If we get there, BOS and CLE will be tough in the Finals.

Anytime all-NBA players move, I feel the need to get involved (there's only ~20 of them!), but I don't know how realistic it really was for us this year.


yeah Spurs gonna be scary faster than most think. They gave up their worst assets for Fox. They might just add Trae Young this offseason and become real contenders (I don't love Trae but the fit in San Antonio with Wemby is scary).


They will be yery good very fast. But I don't like the fit with Young and Fox. They better look to improve their depth and/or add a very good third piece.
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Post#2247 » by Clav » Fri Feb 7, 2025 7:27 pm

I think that Davion Mitchell was an option for buy-low... Jose Alvarado would fit in low minutes and is defensive too. Sexton couldn't have been too expensive. I'm not, well, super thrilled about either of those guys for their negative aspects as well, but still, there were options.

Coby White was probably not on the market, but we could've given Chicago an offer they couldn't resist.

[side note, we have decisions to make in the offseason with our roster and incoming picks]

I feel like a late 1st and the ATL 2nd could have done some work for us, but I will see how much improved Jdub can show because he was stifled at times last playoffs, we need to see him control the game when he has opportunities to do so.
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Post#2249 » by Big nick » Fri Feb 7, 2025 10:33 pm

It’s easy to set here and say that we should have made a trade because we have some holes but tell me what team is perfect. I am super excited with the team Sam has put together we will be good for along time and with salary problems we will have which most top teams have we can fill in with rookies with all the pick’s we have. Great time for thunder fans, how would you like to be a mavs fan now.
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Post#2250 » by Kizz Fastfists » Fri Feb 7, 2025 11:28 pm

Big nick wrote:It’s easy to set here and say that we should have made a trade because we have some holes but tell me what team is perfect. I am super excited with the team Sam has put together we will be good for along time and with salary problems we will have which most top teams have we can fill in with rookies with all the pick’s we have. Great time for thunder fans, how would you like to be a mavs fan now.



We've been here before and seen this. A great young team that is going to be great and go to the Finals over and over and then Presti happened. I'm just waiting to see who is going to be Harden 2.0. Is Presti going to trade JDub or Chet?
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Post#2251 » by Dadouv47 » Fri Feb 7, 2025 11:44 pm

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Big nick wrote:It’s easy to set here and say that we should have made a trade because we have some holes but tell me what team is perfect. I am super excited with the team Sam has put together we will be good for along time and with salary problems we will have which most top teams have we can fill in with rookies with all the pick’s we have. Great time for thunder fans, how would you like to be a mavs fan now.



We've been here before and seen this. A great young team that is going to be great and go to the Finals over and over and then Presti happened. I'm just waiting to see who is going to be Harden 2.0. Is Presti going to trade JDub or Chet?


so now that u can't really complain about our team u are already saying that Presti is going to mess up in the future. That's brillant. You can never be wrong using that methodology (except if somebody has a cristal ball here).

It amazes me that u seem to hate Presti more than I hate my mother in law which is something very hard to accomplish.
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Post#2252 » by Dadouv47 » Fri Feb 7, 2025 11:46 pm

More important: Chet is coming back and that's the most exciting moment to me since the Boston game. I think it will take some time for him to play as well as he did early this season but I hope he's gonna have a great impact and look forward to see if Hartenstein/Chet can coexist and be a viable option against good teams.
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Post#2253 » by Kizz Fastfists » Sat Feb 8, 2025 12:13 am

Dadouv47 wrote:so now that u can't really complain about our team u are already saying that Presti is going to mess up in the future. That's brillant. You can never be wrong using that methodology (except if somebody has a cristal ball here).

It amazes me that u seem to hate Presti more than I hate my mother in law which is something very hard to accomplish.


If you knew a jockey and they always came close, as in 2/3, but never won the race wouldn't it make sense to go to the track and bet on them to place? That's like Presti. He'll get close. He'll get you to where you can taste it. He'll never go for the win and will do something so stupid that leaves you wondering who was offering to give him all his kinks to do something so stupid that Helen Keller knew it was going to fail. I don't hate Presti. Never met him. Know people who have met him and they all say the same things about him. I have an opinion about Presti that has never been inaccurate and so I continue to let that guide my view about what he will do.
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Post#2254 » by Big nick » Sat Feb 8, 2025 12:18 am

Kizz is just never happy because of his hatred for Sam. Best team we have ever put on the court by far, yes maybe we never win a chip but sometimes stuff happens. I had a bad thing happen to me last week ruptured a artery in my calf two hard surgery’s back home now going to be a long 8 weeks recovery so looking in the rear view mirror things happen. I am just excited to watch our thunder and take one day at a time without losing my leg prayer’s work.
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Post#2255 » by Xatticus » Sat Feb 8, 2025 1:10 am

Dadouv47 wrote:Makes no sense if Dieng is still in OKC after today's deadline.


I don't really see the issue. We look at him as a bust because we drafted Jalen with him back-to-back and because we have come to expect immediate contributions from our youngsters, but he is still young and he still has a good length/athleticism combination.

He looks a lot like a second-contract type, but that he hasn't taken off yet should make his second contract rather modest and if the front office believes there is still a player there, then I don't mind waiting. If we were really pressed for roster spots, then I'd agree, but that isn't the case right now. He doesn't have to become a world beater to become useful to us due to his versatility.
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Post#2256 » by Xatticus » Sat Feb 8, 2025 1:19 am

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cjmcallist wrote:I think our deadline was fine! We didn't need to make a move and no one switched teams that I think we should have added.

- I don't think the top of the West changed significantly. If anything I think that the Mavs are less threatening.
- Long term the Spurs worry me. :/
- I liked the Hunter pick for the Cavs. If we get there, BOS and CLE will be tough in the Finals.

Anytime all-NBA players move, I feel the need to get involved (there's only ~20 of them!), but I don't know how realistic it really was for us this year.


yeah Spurs gonna be scary faster than most think. They gave up their worst assets for Fox. They might just add Trae Young this offseason and become real contenders (I don't love Trae but the fit in San Antonio with Wemby is scary).


I would have been far more concerned if they added Luka. They should become a very good defensive team, but I think they are capped offensively with the Wemby/Fox duo.
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Post#2257 » by Xatticus » Sat Feb 8, 2025 1:21 am

Clav wrote:I think that Davion Mitchell was an option for buy-low... Jose Alvarado would fit in low minutes and is defensive too. Sexton couldn't have been too expensive. I'm not, well, super thrilled about either of those guys for their negative aspects as well, but still, there were options.

Coby White was probably not on the market, but we could've given Chicago an offer they couldn't resist.

[side note, we have decisions to make in the offseason with our roster and incoming picks]

I feel like a late 1st and the ATL 2nd could have done some work for us, but I will see how much improved Jdub can show because he was stifled at times last playoffs, we need to see him control the game when he has opportunities to do so.


I think Mitchell would've been redundant with Wallace. Mitchell is just a defensive stopper and we don't really need that. I also think we have some untapped playmaking potential already on the roster. You can see Wiggins' confidence growing with the ball in his hands and Wallace has always looked like a comfortable decision-maker. He just doesn't impose himself on the game, but I expect that to come with time.
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Post#2258 » by Big nick » Sat Feb 8, 2025 1:50 am

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Dadouv47 wrote:Makes no sense if Dieng is still in OKC after today's deadline.


I don't really see the issue. We look at him as a bust because we drafted Jalen with him back-to-back and because we have come to expect immediate contributions from our youngsters, but he is still young and he still has a good length/athleticism combination.

He looks a lot like a second-contract type, but that he hasn't taken off yet should make his second contract rather modest and if the front office believes there is still a player there, then I don't mind waiting. If we were really pressed for roster spots, then I'd agree, but that isn't the case right now. He doesn't have to become a world beater to become useful to us due to his versatility.

I agree with but he is very slow to make any jump, I guess my biggest problem with dieng is he seems to have no motor maybe drive. He is playing well lately but he needs to continue to make strides, he has the physical tools length size but to me no motor.
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Post#2259 » by Dadouv47 » Sat Feb 8, 2025 10:24 am

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Dadouv47 wrote:Makes no sense if Dieng is still in OKC after today's deadline.


I don't really see the issue. We look at him as a bust because we drafted Jalen with him back-to-back and because we have come to expect immediate contributions from our youngsters, but he is still young and he still has a good length/athleticism combination.

He looks a lot like a second-contract type, but that he hasn't taken off yet should make his second contract rather modest and if the front office believes there is still a player there, then I don't mind waiting. If we were really pressed for roster spots, then I'd agree, but that isn't the case right now. He doesn't have to become a world beater to become useful to us due to his versatility.


I don't totally agree with you but it's fair to say that Dieng got unlucky to get drafted by a team that became so good so fast and because of that he didn't have enough playing time. I can see the talent in him but the lack of physicality despite his size is such a red flag that I don't think I could see him becoming a rotation player to us even in the next 2 years.

Feels like it makes more sense for him to go elsewhere to try to become the best player he can be and I hope he wasn't traded before so he could be moved this offseason in a bigger package.
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Post#2260 » by Xatticus » Sat Feb 8, 2025 1:43 pm

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Dadouv47 wrote:Makes no sense if Dieng is still in OKC after today's deadline.


I don't really see the issue. We look at him as a bust because we drafted Jalen with him back-to-back and because we have come to expect immediate contributions from our youngsters, but he is still young and he still has a good length/athleticism combination.

He looks a lot like a second-contract type, but that he hasn't taken off yet should make his second contract rather modest and if the front office believes there is still a player there, then I don't mind waiting. If we were really pressed for roster spots, then I'd agree, but that isn't the case right now. He doesn't have to become a world beater to become useful to us due to his versatility.


I don't totally agree with you but it's fair to say that Dieng got unlucky to get drafted by a team that became so good so fast and because of that he didn't have enough playing time. I can see the talent in him but the lack of physicality despite his size is such a red flag that I don't think I could see him becoming a rotation player to us even in the next 2 years.

Feels like it makes more sense for him to go elsewhere to try to become the best player he can be and I hope he wasn't traded before so he could be moved this offseason in a bigger package.


It certainly could be true that it would be best for Dieng to move on and I agree that the lack of physicality is an obstacle for him. There have certainly been times over the last few years where we needed more size and he just didn't fit the bill. I'm cautious to write guys off completely though as I've seen many success stories over the years for guys that got off to very slow starts in their NBA careers.
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