OKC Thunder Trades and Transaction Thread

[slick_watts]

so now that u can't really complain about our team u are already saying that Presti is going to mess up in the future. That's brillant. You can never be wrong using that methodology (except if somebody has a cristal ball here).

It amazes me that u seem to hate Presti more than I hate my mother in law which is something very hard to accomplish.

If you knew a jockey and they always came close, as in 2/3, but never won the race wouldn't it make sense to go to the track and bet on them to place? That's like Presti. He'll get close. He'll get you to where you can taste it. He'll never go for the win and will do something so stupid that leaves you wondering who was offering to give him all his kinks to do something so stupid that Helen Keller knew it was going to fail. I don't hate Presti. Never met him. Know people who have met him and they all say the same things about him. I have an opinion about Presti that has never been inaccurate and so I continue to let that guide my view about what he will do.

the salary outlays that sam presti has made to isaiah hartenstein and alex caruso over the summer and in december show that he has adapted his philosophy as those are moves he was not making during the first build of the team. i think everyone expected sam to take in bad salary with draft picks, and to hold onto josh giddey despite his obvious non-fit in the playoffs. but nope, he spent more money on external talent in one offseason than he probably has in the rest of his career combined.

your general opinion of sam presti might be accurate for when you first adopted those opinions. since then we've all seen you repeatedly make incorrect predictions about sam presti's actions based on those opinions, though.

[slick_watts]

i don't think anyone was moved at the deadline that could have helped us much. maybe dennis schroeder? our biggest hole is still reserve ball handler. i don't think ajay mitchell is the guy for that. it's a small hole but an exploitable one especially if chet isn't 100% by the playoffs. hand wringing about guys like cam johnson who not only were not traded- but there were zero credible reports of offers for- is just being mad for the sake of being mad. sam presti sat on his hands last year when obvious upgrades were flying all over the place, and he's done that before too (2016).

this year i don't think that happened.

[Big nick]

i don't think anyone was moved at the deadline that could have helped us much. maybe dennis schroeder? our biggest hole is still reserve ball handler. i don't think ajay mitchell is the guy for that. it's a small hole but an exploitable one especially if chet isn't 100% by the playoffs. hand wringing about guys like cam johnson who not only were not traded- but there were zero credible reports of offers for- is just being mad for the sake of being mad. sam presti sat on his hands last year when obvious upgrades were flying all over the place, and he's done that before too (2016).

this year i don't think that happened.

I disagree with you on aj I think he's going to be just what we need as a backup pg and he can flat out shoot.

[Devilanche]

Philly just can’t seems to win . And they don’t seems to be actively tanking.

[Kizz Fastfists]

Philly just can’t seems to win . And they don’t seems to be actively tanking.

Embiid can't stay healthy. PG13 is 34 and the injuries have taken a toll. They just aren't a good team. That pick could be really nice in 2026 if they don't find a fountain of youth and health.

[Devilanche]

Philly just can’t seems to win . And they don’t seems to be actively tanking.

Embiid can't stay healthy. PG13 is 34 and the injuries have taken a toll. They just aren't a good team. That pick could be really nice in 2026 if they don't find a fountain of youth and health.

They are like 1-9 in the last 10 games . Didn’t expect that bad . Was thinking anywhere between 3-4 wins from the 10.

[Devilanche]

Yabu would make such a nice MLE target this offseason.

[NYG]

How many picks would you add to Topic and Dort for Mikal Bridges?

[Kizz Fastfists]

How many picks would you add to Topic and Dort for Mikal Bridges?

I'd consider Bridges and 2 FRPs for Topic and Dort.

[Xatticus]

How many picks would you add to Topic and Dort for Mikal Bridges?

None. Not interested. Mikal only has one year left on his deal and we probably can't afford his next one.

[bbms]

thunder reportedly offered sga+6th for cade cunningham in 2021

how would you guys feel if presti oferred chet+pick swaps in 2026, 2028 and 2030 (or PHI pick if conveyed) for cooper flagg?

[Woerzboerg]

thunder reportedly offered sga+6th for cade cunningham in 2021

how would you guys feel if presti oferred chet+pick swaps in 2026, 2028 and 2030 (or PHI pick if conveyed) for cooper flagg?

Why should he?

[slick_watts]

thunder reportedly offered sga+6th for cade cunningham in 2021

how would you guys feel if presti oferred chet+pick swaps in 2026, 2028 and 2030 (or PHI pick if conveyed) for cooper flagg?

i don't think that would be enough to get flagg. i don't think jdub + chet would be enough.

[Kizz Fastfists]

thunder reportedly offered sga+6th for cade cunningham in 2021

how would you guys feel if presti oferred chet+pick swaps in 2026, 2028 and 2030 (or PHI pick if conveyed) for cooper flagg?

Why should he?

Health concerns with Chet. That is the best potential argument I can come up with. That argument is dependent on a belief that Chet is going to have issues going forward staying healthy and you don't want to be in an Embiid type of situation. If you believe Chet is going to be fine, from a health standpoint then your argument could be resetting the rookie contract so it is a financial decision. I'm not going to make either of those arguments. If you look at the Cade trade rumor offer it was at a time when OKC was really just starting their rebuild so it would have changed the team from having SGA as the first building block to Cade. SGA hadn't shown he was going to be a superstar at that point and Cade was considered a can't miss future top 5 player.

Chet has shown he can do everything the Thunder need. I'm expect Flagg to be a great player, but I don't know if you want to move Chet for a rookie, even a great one, when you are a contender and your goal should be championships. I don't like replacing Chet with Flagg due to the loss on shot blocking and the impact on the defensive end. The only argument I really think one could take seriously for doing it is that Chet has the injury history and that players with his height/weight have had some issues with health through the history of the NBA. The foot costing him what would have been his rookie season hasn't seemed to have shown any issues. His hip injury was a fluke. I'm not concerned about Chet's health at this point. If Presti did move Chet and made a comment that it was due to medical information I'm not going to scream about it being the worst thing he could do, although I wouldn't like it depending on the follow up move(s). Keep in mind that long ago there was the rumor he passed on Tyson Chandler due to medical concerns that never came to fruition and instead traded for Kendrick Perkins who's ACL tear ended up being more of a negative to him going forward than anyone anticipated.

If you want to make the argument that Flagg is better at basketball than Chet then I'm not sure I'm going to buy that. Flagg is arguably a better scorer and ballhandler, but there is also a significant difference in being a 6'9 ballhandler and a 7'3 ballhandler. OKC has Topic, who should be a great ballhandler, and was arguably the best pick and roll ballhandling prospect in NBA history. You are not going to convince me that they need to move Chet for someone with better ballhandling because OKC lacks ballhandling and that is more important than Chet's presence on the defensive end and his rebounding.

[Devilanche]

thunder reportedly offered sga+6th for cade cunningham in 2021

how would you guys feel if presti oferred chet+pick swaps in 2026, 2028 and 2030 (or PHI pick if conveyed) for cooper flagg?

Why should he?

Health concerns with Chet. That is the best potential argument I can come up with. That argument is dependent on a belief that Chet is going to have issues going forward staying healthy and you don't want to be in an Embiid type of situation. If you believe Chet is going to be fine, from a health standpoint then your argument could be resetting the rookie contract so it is a financial decision. I'm not going to make either of those arguments. If you look at the Cade trade rumor offer it was at a time when OKC was really just starting their rebuild so it would have changed the team from having SGA as the first building block to Cade. SGA hadn't shown he was going to be a superstar at that point and Cade was considered a can't miss future top 5 player.

Chet has shown he can do everything the Thunder need. I'm expect Flagg to be a great player, but I don't know if you want to move Chet for a rookie, even a great one, when you are a contender and your goal should be championships. I don't like replacing Chet with Flagg due to the loss on shot blocking and the impact on the defensive end. The only argument I really think one could take seriously for doing it is that Chet has the injury history and that players with his height/weight have had some issues with health through the history of the NBA. The foot costing him what would have been his rookie season hasn't seemed to have shown any issues. His hip injury was a fluke. I'm not concerned about Chet's health at this point. If Presti did move Chet and made a comment that it was due to medical information I'm not going to scream about it being the worst thing he could do, although I wouldn't like it depending on the follow up move(s). Keep in mind that long ago there was the rumor he passed on Tyson Chandler due to medical concerns that never came to fruition and instead traded for Kendrick Perkins who's ACL tear ended up being more of a negative to him going forward than anyone anticipated.

If you want to make the argument that Flagg is better at basketball than Chet then I'm not sure I'm going to buy that. Flagg is arguably a better scorer and ballhandler, but there is also a significant difference in being a 6'9 ballhandler and a 7'3 ballhandler. OKC has Topic, who should be a great ballhandler, and was arguably the best pick and roll ballhandling prospect in NBA history. You are not going to convince me that they need to move Chet for someone with better ballhandling because OKC lacks ballhandling and that is more important than Chet's presence on the defensive end and his rebounding.

I think that health argument won’t work. The same reason we want to trade him is the same reason holder of pick #1 won’t …

The reset of contract is intriguing … but given we will either be real close or hopefully win the title, I think we retool around the edges instead. Some small contract for Toppin ? Go in for an MLE guy ? Something like that rather than tweak our top 6 guys.

Yea archtype wise I think we need more of Chet skillset then Flagg , even if Flagg is immediately effective to a title contender in 2026.

[bbms]

i'm just entertaining the idea because bill simmons sparked the debate whether the thunder should throw the war chest of picks for flagg

and there's logic behind it because flagg would be cost controlled for so long and on a rookie deal

and i don't think that would be enough, i think we would need to throw either chet or jdub in

if slick is correct and the thunder would need to throw both jdub and chet it's a nono

i agree with kizz that i don't buy that flagg is better than chet (probably the most underrated young player in the league). but he would be a lesser cap commitment and the fit would be great too, jdub and flagg on those micro ball lineups could be death dealing

[Clav]

i'm just entertaining the idea because bill simmons sparked the debate whether the thunder should throw the war chest of picks for flagg

and there's logic behind it because flagg would be cost controlled for so long and on a rookie deal

and i don't think that would be enough, i think we would need to throw either chet or jdub in

if slick is correct and the thunder would need to throw both jdub and chet it's a nono

i agree with kizz that i don't buy that flagg is better than chet (probably the most underrated young player in the league). but he would be a lesser cap commitment and the fit would be great too, jdub and flagg on those micro ball lineups could be death dealing

Simmons does like a little hyperbole. I actually like Kizz's analysis here, it's possible we perform this trade, but the further we dig into it, the less I can defend our reasonings lol I wonder if other teams will bid for that No. 1 pick too.

[Kizz Fastfists]

Simmons does like a little hyperbole. I actually like Kizz's analysis here, it's possible we perform this trade, but the further we dig into it, the less I can defend our reasonings lol I wonder if other teams will bid for that No. 1 pick too.

I would assume that teams will inquire about the pick. I have a very hard time imagining a team would trade Flagg unless it was something crazy. I thought Atlanta was crazy when they traded away Luka so I won't say it is impossible, but you don't typically see the #1 pick traded when there is such a significant gap between 1 and 2 in the draft.

[Big nick]

Atlanta was damn crazy to trade Luka away especially for trae. Atlanta was crazy and screwed up their franchise. But getting back to Chet I love him for us but I am dang scared he can’t stay healthy and won’t have a long career. But I also think we will be very good for a long time even without Chet.

[Devilanche]

Since we don’t have a draft thread this season.

This guy is kind of interesting in the late first / second round kind of pick. Ballhandler , ok-ish defence , 3 point range .

https://sports.yahoo.com/nba/article/2025-nba-draft-scouting-report-darrion-williams-f-texas-tech-170020440.html