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Post#2401 » by Balkman32 » Sun Jul 7, 2019 1:32 am

thekaoswithin wrote:CP3 + picks is better IMO, picks are superior to any combo of mediocre players we get from Miami.


You can’t bring CP3 here. They would have to move him elsewhere in a deal like that.

We already have Miami’s 21 and 23 first. So, there isn’t really anything they can offer pick wise to make us interested. Unless they want to make the 23 unprotected, give us the 25 unprotected and give us pick swaps in 24 and 26.

Waiters might be better to bring over rather than Dragic because the extra $7 million in savings this year would be beneficial.
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Post#2402 » by Old Man Game » Sun Jul 7, 2019 1:33 am

Oh god, Trammel on the Thunder buddies refers to "Gilgeous Shai Alexander." Plus put this doofus out to pasture already.
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Post#2403 » by ThunderBolt » Sun Jul 7, 2019 1:38 am

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oreojenkins wrote:Is Gordon, Fournier, Augustin for Westbrook, Grant, and Patterson (give or take) feasible? I've been thinking about it after Slick posted and I kind of like the idea of Gordon.


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Post#2404 » by slick_watts » Sun Jul 7, 2019 1:40 am

shai's numbers are deceptively good for a rookie.
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Post#2405 » by Old Man Game » Sun Jul 7, 2019 1:43 am

slick_watts wrote:shai's numbers are deceptively good for a rookie.


What do you mean by "deceptively?" Like fools gold? Or do you mean low key good?
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Post#2406 » by Old Man Game » Sun Jul 7, 2019 1:44 am

Was Wendell Carter, Jr. any good last year? Otto Porter (2 years remaining on contract) and Carter for Russ works in the trade machine and saves a bit.
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Post#2407 » by slick_watts » Sun Jul 7, 2019 1:44 am

Old Man Game wrote:
slick_watts wrote:shai's numbers are deceptively good for a rookie.


What do you mean by "deceptively?" Like fools gold? Or do you mean low key good?


they don't pop off the page but when you look historically at rookie guards they are decent.
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Post#2408 » by ThunderBolt » Sun Jul 7, 2019 1:47 am

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Post#2409 » by oreojenkins » Sun Jul 7, 2019 1:49 am

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oreojenkins wrote:Is Gordon, Fournier, Augustin for Westbrook, Grant, and Patterson (give or take) feasible? I've been thinking about it after Slick posted and I kind of like the idea of Gordon.

I'd rather guys who are stuck on rookie deals who we can manage and keep for years. Gordon would bounce straight after his deal and doesn't do much for this team in the long term.


Rationale would be we save $8 mil towards the cap immediately and Gordon makes $20 mil/$18 mil/$16 mil as a 24/25/26 year old. He's already good. Grades out as a postive defender. Shot 35% from 3, 40% from corner last year. If he were to work out and wants to stay, great. If not, he could be pretty valuable as a flip down the line. And we're out from underneath most of Westbrook's contract. I just saw some Orlando fans mention he might be available in a Westbrook trade.

The Miami alternative is basically (likely) Herro and protection removal that probably won't matter. If we could flip Dragic, that would help. But we're also not saving money here and would likely have to find another way to limit our tax exposure. Argument for getting 7 years of control v. 3 is valid for sure.

I'm not dug in to any of these positions, just feel like we've fully flushed out Miami as an option. Figured it was worth considering the alternatives.
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Post#2410 » by Old Man Game » Sun Jul 7, 2019 1:50 am

slick_watts wrote:
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slick_watts wrote:shai's numbers are deceptively good for a rookie.


What do you mean by "deceptively?" Like fools gold? Or do you mean low key good?


they don't pop off the page but when you look historically at rookie guards they are decent.


He and Shammet are the only rookies in the top 10 of minutes played last year who also made the playoffs. The fact that they could do that he could get that many minutes for a playoff team says something generally good.

Kid was actually a positive in defensive BPM. I know BPM isn't a great measure of defense but its something anyway considering how abysmal most rookie guards are in the same measure.
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Post#2411 » by oreojenkins » Sun Jul 7, 2019 1:50 am

Old Man Game wrote:Was Wendell Carter, Jr. any good last year? Otto Porter (2 years remaining on contract) and Carter for Russ works in the trade machine and saves a bit.


Think they said Lauri and Carter are "off limits" earlier in the offseason fwiw.
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Post#2412 » by Old Man Game » Sun Jul 7, 2019 1:51 am

oreojenkins wrote:
Old Man Game wrote:Was Wendell Carter, Jr. any good last year? Otto Porter (2 years remaining on contract) and Carter for Russ works in the trade machine and saves a bit.


Think they said Lauri and Carter are "off limits" earlier in the offseason fwiw.


Dang. I thought I was onto something there for a minute.
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Post#2413 » by slick_watts » Sun Jul 7, 2019 1:51 am

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i don't see how a detroit trade even works. reggie + snell + galloway? and a pick?
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Post#2414 » by Old Man Game » Sun Jul 7, 2019 1:54 am

Porter and Dunn for Russ works also. Saves money, and Dunn is off the books after this season.
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Post#2415 » by oreojenkins » Sun Jul 7, 2019 1:55 am

I like Otto, wouldn't mind having him. My dream is Otto + Coby, but not holding my breath.
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Post#2416 » by ThunderBolt » Sun Jul 7, 2019 1:55 am

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i don't see how a detroit trade even works. reggie + snell + galloway? and a pick?


I’ll take a chance on sekou but I don’t see us taking Reggie back.
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Post#2417 » by spearsy23 » Sun Jul 7, 2019 2:04 am

Need kennard if we're dealing when Detroit. Let's get some shooters up in this bitch.
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
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Post#2418 » by Old Man Game » Sun Jul 7, 2019 2:05 am

If Detroit can throw a pick or two into this it might work would help our tank job. http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y54qkkqk
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Post#2419 » by spearsy23 » Sun Jul 7, 2019 2:07 am

Old Man Game wrote:If Detroit can throw a pick or two into this it might work would help our tank job. http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y54qkkqk

I'd do it with a pick. And I think people would be surprised at how good that team could be with some competent coaching.
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
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Post#2420 » by Old Man Game » Sun Jul 7, 2019 2:08 am

spearsy23 wrote:Need kennard if we're dealing when Detroit. Let's get some shooters up in this bitch.


Kennard and THJ to OKC. Jackson and Snell to Dallas. Russ to Detroit.

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