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ThunderBolt wrote:Old Man Game wrote:spearsy23 wrote:It's a lot easier to root for a loser when you know it's short term. We'll see how behind the team casual fans are in three years when we haven't drafted a superstar and are still losing.
I don't think they have to have a superstar, they just need signs of life. Something to reel them in and keep a degree of hope alive.
Good ball movement alone would get me through at least one bad season.
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
wco81 wrote:Man the Pistons are a mess. Big contracts to Blake and Andre.
Brand new arena with a lot of empty seats.
slick_watts wrote:Atomic Punk wrote:This is a strange league isn’t it? Honestly PG asking for a trade was probably the best and worst thing that could happen to this team right now. The return OKC got for him can’t be understated; A young prospect, an expiring, and a sh*t ton of picks. Good for Presti if he played the Raps and Clips against each other to get that haul. Keeping Russ at this point makes zero sense and keeping Adams and Grant makes only slightly more sense. It probably doesn’t make much of a difference who the head coach is next season.
This is good news in the sense that the team can stop floundering and start rebuilding. The bad news is that OKC fans are about to see the difference between fighting for a playoff spot and being a perennial lottery team for the foreseeable future. There is a big difference there and it requires an altered mindset as a fan. Once Russ is traded OKC will have lost 4 players with generational talent in less than 10 years. I can’t think of another franchise that has experienced that. This is going to be a very bad basketball team for quite some time.
For those that are concerned about Russ and wanting to make sure that OKC treats him “right” get over it. Russ is well paid and will be just fine wherever he ends up. For those who have been clamoring for this kind of thing to happen, get ready; The Dark Decade has begun.
losing can be fun, too. probably the worst sports experience as a viewer imo is trying to win when there's no chance at winning. i'm glad that future appears to now be the fence posts we're flying over.
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
spearsy23 wrote:What if we trade Russ and PG then find out this actually IS Donovan's offense?
spearsy23 wrote:What if we trade Russ and PG then find out this actually IS Donovan's offense?
Kizz Fastfists wrote:spearsy23 wrote:What if we trade Russ and PG then find out this actually IS Donovan's offense?
I think Donovan is gone after this season so it won't matter much. My bigger concern is we find out that this is PRESTI's offense. Brooks and Donovan having the same "offense" is somewhat curious.
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
Kizz Fastfists wrote:spearsy23 wrote:What if we trade Russ and PG then find out this actually IS Donovan's offense?
I think Donovan is gone after this season so it won't matter much. My bigger concern is we find out that this is PRESTI's offense. Brooks and Donovan having the same "offense" is somewhat curious.
Old Man Game wrote:Kizz Fastfists wrote:spearsy23 wrote:What if we trade Russ and PG then find out this actually IS Donovan's offense?
I think Donovan is gone after this season so it won't matter much. My bigger concern is we find out that this is PRESTI's offense. Brooks and Donovan having the same "offense" is somewhat curious.
I just have such a hard time believing that. I'm not saying Presti is smarter than everyone else in the league but he sure isn't dumber. I think all this iso ball hell we've known for essentially our entire existence is because the team's organizing philosophy was to cater to stars to hope that'd make them like it here. That extended to allowing iso ball. Throw out those stars, at least there's chance a new generation won't be inclined to play that way.
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
spearsy23 wrote:Unless PG hates Steven it really seems like he's still tight with the guys on the team... IF that's true then the only things to be unhappy with would be coaching staff, front office, or the city itself.
spearsy23 wrote:Unless PG hates Steven it really seems like he's still tight with the guys on the team... IF that's true then the only things to be unhappy with would be coaching staff, front office, or the city itself.
Kizz Fastfists wrote:spearsy23 wrote:Unless PG hates Steven it really seems like he's still tight with the guys on the team... IF that's true then the only things to be unhappy with would be coaching staff, front office, or the city itself.
The organization and the team as a whole. Once Melo was gone PG saw that the limitations had nothing to do with Melo, but Russ and the team's play style. Either that is just Russ or it is Russ and the coaching. It doesn't mean PG had an issue with Russ, but he knew he couldn't get out of the first round with OKC and he wanted more. He just wasn't happy with the ceiling of the team. He enjoyed his time of being able to do whatever he wanted, but he grew to understand, like kd did, that you can't win like that.
There has to be structure, discipline, game planning, execution and awareness of the strengths and weaknesses of your team and your opponent. OKC has never displayed that under Donovan. Either that is Donovan or it is Presti telling his coach to let the players run the show. The problem is that if it is Donovan we can find that out quickly. If it is Presti then OKC has no hope unless they are just so much more talented than their opponent that they can overcome playing street ball in the NBA.
Balkman32 wrote:wco81 wrote:Man the Pistons are a mess. Big contracts to Blake and Andre.
Brand new arena with a lot of empty seats.
But, what if they can get Russ. Detroit would love him.
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
slick_watts wrote:
losing can be fun, too. probably the worst sports experience as a viewer imo is trying to win when there's no chance at winning. i'm glad that future appears to now be the fence posts we're flying over.
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