OKC Thunder Trades and Transaction Thread

[Dadouv47]

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we kept hearing that OKC had too many picks but that's what bad management looks like.

[Devilanche]

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we kept hearing that OKC had too many picks but that's what bad management looks like.

It they are going invest minutes in them then it’s a good draft.

3 ball handlers, a wing and a big.

At least 1 of the ball handlers should pan out right ?

[Dadouv47]

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we kept hearing that OKC had too many picks but that's what bad management looks like.

It they are going invest minutes in them then it’s a good draft.

3 ball handlers, a wing and a big.

At least 1 of the ball handlers should pan out right ?

yeah I guess so. Just don't know in which direction they are going.

[Devilanche]

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we kept hearing that OKC had too many picks but that's what bad management looks like.

It they are going invest minutes in them then it’s a good draft.

3 ball handlers, a wing and a big.

At least 1 of the ball handlers should pan out right ?

yeah I guess so. Just don't know in which direction they are going.

It’s interesting to say the least .

Bad management is New Orleans .

[spearsy23]

I don't mind it for the Nets as a philosophy (I don't love the Demin pick as a player). They suck. They need to embrace the suck. When you suck and you don't have any players that are long term answers on your roster, take as many bites of the apple as you can get right now. Just commit to it. Cam Thomas is the only guy on the team even worth considering whether or not will still be there in 4 years. Hell, what was the other option, trade 22/26/27 to get into the mid teens and take one guy with similar chance of panning out as the three you did get?

[spearsy23]

I also like that Saraf and Powell are 6'6", Demin is 6'9", and Traore is 6'5". It's not like they took a bunch of 6'2" guys, so they can get all of them on the court without any issues. If you get 3 long term players out of that group it was a great draft, if you get 2 it was still a good one.

[Kizz Fastfists]

yeah I guess so. Just don't know in which direction they are going.

I think it is the start of a complete rebuild for the Nets. They should be moving Cam Johnson and Claxton for more picks and then give the kids a lot of run and see who pans out.

[Devilanche]

I also like that Saraf and Powell are 6'6", Demin is 6'9", and Traore is 6'5". It's not like they took a bunch of 6'2" guys, so they can get all of them on the court without any issues. If you get 3 long term players out of that group it was a great draft, if you get 2 it was still a good one.

It’s only bad if they don’t get playtime.

They could be good they could be bad but at least try develop them.

[OKC2008]

I'm confused about Sorber: in some scouting reports it seems that he has a lack of lateral mobility, in other reports his lateral mobility seem to be his strenght


NbadraftNet… Laterally, he has average mobility, which may limit his ability to switch onto quicker forwards or guards in space …

The Ringer ..But he has real lateral mobility for a player his size, allowing him to credibly defend in space on the perimeter and recover for blocks on drives into the lane..

[spearsy23]

I'm confused about Sorber: in some scouting reports it seems that he has a lack of lateral mobility, in other reports his lateral mobility seem to be his strenght


NbadraftNet… Laterally, he has average mobility, which may limit his ability to switch onto quicker forwards or guards in space …

The Ringer ..But he has real lateral mobility for a player his size, allowing him to credibly defend in space on the perimeter and recover for blocks on drives into the lane..

NBAdraftnet is often worthless or outdated in my opinion. That said, lateral mobility is kinda broad. From what I've watched he seems to be good coming from the weak side and covering ground for rim protection, but you probably don't want him defending perimeter players in space.

[cjmcallist]

I watched one video and I feel pretty good about Sorber. LOVE the wingspan and what that could mean for our defense.

Probably he doesn't even get a second contract, but for now I feel good. I'd probably feel good no matter what. We won the championship.

[Kizz Fastfists]

I watched one video and I feel pretty good about Sorber. LOVE the wingspan and what that could mean for our defense.

Probably he doesn't even get a second contract, but for now I feel good. I'd probably feel good no matter what. We won the championship.

There were a few big men I would have been happy with. I assume everyone here knows I've wanted the team to get bigger. I like Sober. My only knock on him is that he can't shoot so he does his work in the paint. He will need to develop a mid-range game to be effective in pick and pop situations, but his defense, off ball movement and finishing at the rim should keep him on the floor as a rookie with a lot of upside. I see a lot of Zach Randolph in his offensive game and it took Randolph a few years to develop a decent mid-range jumper. I think he will be a better rim protector and shot blocker than Randolph.

As for round 2, I'd be thrilled if Presti traded up for Fleming or Raynaud. Both Fleming and Raynaud were projected to go in the 1st in every mock I saw and ESPN has them going 1 and 2 tonight. ESPN has OKC mocked to take Broome who is an interesting prospect and was highly productive in college; he isn't long or athletic, but he's an old school bully type of big.

[spearsy23]

I doubt we move up for one of the names still on the board, they'll be looking for NBA deals. Stay at 44 and get a two way guy

[Xatticus]

i think the sorber pick is decent but uninspired, but that came as a result of the nba just showing up a lot smarter than they generally are, that was a killer run at 9-14 a lot of teams really did it right with their picks and trades - prioritizing uniqueness, intensity and impact across multiple game situations over archetypes in this draft's sweet spot.

Isn't that what we did though? I had scarcely looked into the prospects before the draft. I liked Coward, but I don't see the dynamic athleticism that others do.

I knew nothing about Sorber before the draft, but I really like him. He has very strong numbers for a freshman. His block and steal rates are encouraging. He has a high turnover rate, yet he still had a positive AST/TOV ratio. He's a bit of a tweener because he lacks great size or athleticism and he doesn't space the floor, but the latter could come with time. Even if it doesn't, there is a pretty good example of how he can find success in the NBA on our roster.

I expect Sorber will be a very effective defender with a combination of size/mobility that we currently lack. He was among the most impactful defenders in college as a freshman. His overall upside will be determined by how he builds out his offensive toolkit, but even if he doesn't, he should be a very useful player for a long time to come.

[Clav]

Was really hard for me to focus on the draft prospects with our Finals series ending just a few days before. I didn't even see one Georgetown game this year either, but he profiles to be a functional piece to get minutes. I have concerns if he's actually injured long-term but would be thrilled to see him play in a few SL games if he's ready to go.

Otherwise I see him playing post minutes every so often, might get a spot start as we rotate rest in and out. I guess I'm pleasantly happy and will learn more about him in the coming weeks.


As far as trading #24 to the Kings, it's neutral. We couldn't roster a player anyway, and I'm sure we're gonna do something similar with #44 (or offer that player a TW contract).

Those 2nds we got back, or if we're lucky an out of lottery FRP, can be our TW players in the coming future, but we have oodles of 2nds in the coming years, so I'm nonplussed. Realistically we are pretty set on roster but it's never a bad option to have those selections upcoming.

Kings getting another guard, on the other hand, is quite curious. They could have got us to pick Fleming with that selection lol.

[bbms]

i think the sorber pick is decent but uninspired, but that came as a result of the nba just showing up a lot smarter than they generally are, that was a killer run at 9-14 a lot of teams really did it right with their picks and trades - prioritizing uniqueness, intensity and impact across multiple game situations over archetypes in this draft's sweet spot.

Isn't that what we did though? I had scarcely looked into the prospects before the draft. I liked Coward, but I don't see the dynamic athleticism that others do.

I knew nothing about Sorber before the draft, but I really like him. He has very strong numbers for a freshman. His block and steal rates are encouraging. He has a high turnover rate, yet he still had a positive AST/TOV ratio. He's a bit of a tweener because he lacks great size or athleticism and he doesn't space the floor, but the latter could come with time. Even if it doesn't, there is a pretty good example of how he can find success in the NBA on our roster.

I expect Sorber will be a very effective defender with a combination of size/mobility that we currently lack. He was among the most impactful defenders in college as a freshman. His overall upside will be determined by how he builds out his offensive toolkit, but even if he doesn't, he should be a very useful player for a long time to come.

my biggest knock with him and his fit at what thunder needs is that even if you figure out a way to guard jokic, you can't guard his switch hunting.

so against jokic you got to have someone guarding him that don't get pushed but also when he sets screens and seals, your big needs to ne able to defend the small guard, wall him and recover to jokic (reason why that caruso adjustment was so great)

and sorber is not nearly impressive enough at this complexity. he's a very good interior defender prospect but there's levels, and if he struggles vs college switches on 1 guards... what does he do vs nba 1 guards?

i think he's a solid prospect but mere leverage vs hartenstein and jaylin financial situation

maybe my standard is a bit too high

[Dadouv47]

i think the sorber pick is decent but uninspired, but that came as a result of the nba just showing up a lot smarter than they generally are, that was a killer run at 9-14 a lot of teams really did it right with their picks and trades - prioritizing uniqueness, intensity and impact across multiple game situations over archetypes in this draft's sweet spot.

Isn't that what we did though? I had scarcely looked into the prospects before the draft. I liked Coward, but I don't see the dynamic athleticism that others do.

I knew nothing about Sorber before the draft, but I really like him. He has very strong numbers for a freshman. His block and steal rates are encouraging. He has a high turnover rate, yet he still had a positive AST/TOV ratio. He's a bit of a tweener because he lacks great size or athleticism and he doesn't space the floor, but the latter could come with time. Even if it doesn't, there is a pretty good example of how he can find success in the NBA on our roster.

I expect Sorber will be a very effective defender with a combination of size/mobility that we currently lack. He was among the most impactful defenders in college as a freshman. His overall upside will be determined by how he builds out his offensive toolkit, but even if he doesn't, he should be a very useful player for a long time to come.

my biggest knock with him and his fit at what thunder needs is that even if you figure out a way to guard jokic, you can't guard his switch hunting.

so against jokic you got to have someone guarding him that don't get pushed but also when he sets screens and seals, your big needs to ne able to defend the small guard, wall him and recover to jokic (reason why that caruso adjustment was so great)

and sorber is not nearly impressive enough at this complexity. he's a very good interior defender prospect but there's levels, and if he struggles vs college switches on 1 guards... what does he do vs nba 1 guards?

i think he's a solid prospect but mere leverage vs hartenstein and jaylin financial situation

maybe my standard is a bit too high

Vecenie likes the idea of Sorber against guys like Jokic in 2-3 years but I have no clue since I basically knew the guy yesterday. I liked what I saw in some scouting videos and I think it's a smart move to draft and develop a big. Hartenstein is probably in OKC for 2 more years so it gives a small but decent window for Sorber to develop. I wanted us to draft a scoring wing at first but ultimately I think Presti is right to play the long game (even if I think that we should trade for a scoring player for next season and Presti will unfortunately stand pat)

[Dadouv47]

Ajay/Sorber/Topic and probably Dillion Jones is not incredible but still interesting enough to watch in the summer league.

[Dadouv47]

Just do Dieng + Joe and picks for Cam Johnson and make the fans happy.

[spearsy23]

Sorber going to wear 35? That's pj dozier's number