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Dieng is still gone anyway. I legit think that Presti still love him but he isn't stupid and knows that we can't offer Dieng an extension so they are gonna trade him very soon. I'm less optimistic about the Dieng + Joe for a guy like Cam Johnson stuff though because then it wouldn't make much sense to trade Dillon.
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Dadouv47 wrote:Don't care about Dillon Jones (wish him the best) but are we seriously keeping Dieng?
also this means we have 15 players under contract now so a 2 for 1 (Cam Johnson) is a bit less likely to happen now
They took back a player, Colby Jones, in the deal. They have the same number of contracts they had before. The only difference is they got an expiring for a contract with two more years on it. I don't know what Presti has planned for the roster spots because this move is just confusing as it accomplishes nothing except giving away a 2nd round pick.
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Kizz Fastfists wrote:Dadouv47 wrote:Don't care about Dillon Jones (wish him the best) but are we seriously keeping Dieng?
also this means we have 15 players under contract now so a 2 for 1 (Cam Johnson) is a bit less likely to happen now
They took back a player, Colby Jones, in the deal. They have the same number of contracts they had before. The only difference is they got an expiring for a contract with two more years on it. I don't know what Presti has planned for the roster spots because this move is just confusing as it accomplishes nothing except giving away a 2nd round pick.
Colby was on a n. gtd, he has been waived since. this is incorrect

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Thabo Sefolosha wrote:Colby was on a n. gtd, he has been waived since. this is incorrect
It was partially guaranteed so about half of it will count against the cap. I missed the part where they waived him already so they gave up a 2nd round pick to reduce the cap hit. This makes no sense as it minimizes the ability to aggregate salaries and it didn't full clear the cap hit. They could have accomplished the same thing, from a cap and roster space perspective, by just cutting Dieng and saved the 2nd round pick.
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This has to be the quickest presti has ever moved on from his pre draft evaluation of a player. That's how bad Jones was.
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
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spearsy23 wrote:This has to be the quickest presti has ever moved on from his pre draft evaluation of a player. That's how bad Jones was.
It was very obvious in the g league, coming from someone who was at every blue home game, presti and mark appearances at home games was very common

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Kizz Fastfists wrote:Thabo Sefolosha wrote:Colby was on a n. gtd, he has been waived since. this is incorrect
It was partially guaranteed so about half of it will count against the cap. I missed the part where they waived him already so they gave up a 2nd round pick to reduce the cap hit. This makes no sense as it minimizes the ability to aggregate salaries and it didn't full clear the cap hit. They could have accomplished the same thing, from a cap and roster space perspective, by just cutting Dieng and saved the 2nd round pick.
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Smart move, Dillon had no place in this team
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hope he doesn't have internal informations about this. I think Dieng can eventually become a decent NBA player but he's RFA next season so we don't have enough time to develop him...would really be worst than drafting him in the first place.
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There are three reasons why they kept Dieng:
1. He is the better trade piece for salary matching: higher contract, expiering. For example, Joe and Dieng together would match the salary of Cam Johnson (I doubt this will happen, but just for example).
2. They hope he finally shows some flashes. Then they could extend him for like 15/3 and have a cheap bench contributor in a role (big wing) the team lacks.
3. If none of these first two points happen, they can just let him go in 2026, unlike Jones, and save the money and an additional rosterspot.
1. He is the better trade piece for salary matching: higher contract, expiering. For example, Joe and Dieng together would match the salary of Cam Johnson (I doubt this will happen, but just for example).
2. They hope he finally shows some flashes. Then they could extend him for like 15/3 and have a cheap bench contributor in a role (big wing) the team lacks.
3. If none of these first two points happen, they can just let him go in 2026, unlike Jones, and save the money and an additional rosterspot.
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Gonna be a quiet offseason in OKC IMO so I'm looking at what rivals team can do. Houston improved and they kind of look scary and I think they aren't done yet. Dallas is solid but Kyrie ACL is too big of a problem to overcome for next season I guess. Denver have no money at all but still looking at what they could do and wonder if the Clippers can improve as well because Balmer isn't afraid to spend. Lakers are still gonna try to compete and Minny gonna be weaker than last season but who knows if ANT takes a big leap. Spurs are too early in their rebuild I guess even if they are a gonna be a problem in a couple of years.
Ultimately I think Houston/Denver/Clippers are still the most likely teams that could bother us next season. Not concerned about any team in the East except maybe Cleveland.
Ultimately I think Houston/Denver/Clippers are still the most likely teams that could bother us next season. Not concerned about any team in the East except maybe Cleveland.
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Dadouv47 wrote:Ultimately I think Houston/Denver/Clippers are still the most likely teams that could bother us next season. Not concerned about any team in the East except maybe Cleveland.
The Spurs are the team that worries me the most. I have Houston penciled in for most disappointing team next season. Denver is Denver and I'm not going to say they are not a significant concern. LAC is old and has injury issues and has such a high variance on outcome that I'm not concerned until I see what they look like when the playoffs start. I'll also throw GSW in the same category as LAC and toss Dallas in there as well with Kyrie's ACL and when he comes back and how effective he is determining how good they are at playoff time.
The East? If Orlando can find a real PG and/or their young guys take a jump they could come out of the East. The Knicks and Cavs are your favorites, but I'm not sure either concerns me. With Indy and Boston both out of it next year due to the injuries I'm not overly concerned about the East.
Unless there is some crazy chaos over the next few weeks expect the media to hype up OKC-Houston as a big rivalry and the default championship series until something proves otherwise.
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Kizz Fastfists wrote:Dadouv47 wrote:Ultimately I think Houston/Denver/Clippers are still the most likely teams that could bother us next season. Not concerned about any team in the East except maybe Cleveland.
The Spurs are the team that worries me the most. I have Houston penciled in for most disappointing team next season. Denver is Denver and I'm not going to say they are not a significant concern. LAC is old and has injury issues and has such a high variance on outcome that I'm not concerned until I see what they look like when the playoffs start. I'll also throw GSW in the same category as LAC and toss Dallas in there as well with Kyrie's ACL and when he comes back and how effective he is determining how good they are at playoff time.
The East? If Orlando can find a real PG and/or their young guys take a jump they could come out of the East. The Knicks and Cavs are your favorites, but I'm not sure either concerns me. With Indy and Boston both out of it next year due to the injuries I'm not overly concerned about the East.
Unless there is some crazy chaos over the next few weeks expect the media to hype up OKC-Houston as a big rivalry and the default championship series until something proves otherwise.
I get it but they are stil very young. I know we said the same with OKC but if somehow the Spurs win with Victor, a sophomore and a rookie it would be the craziest championship ever. Don't want to face them and for sure they will be our biggest rival in 2 years but next season it looks a bit early.
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overpay but whatever glad for him. Not an issue for next season, no clue after that
I wonder if it’s player or team option for the 3rd year.
No issue on the amount this and next season but between sorber / Jaylin / IH we should have C minutes covered for the upcoming 2 seasons.
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Dadouv47 wrote:I get it but they are stil very young. I know we said the same with OKC but if somehow the Spurs win with Victor, a sophomore and a rookie it would be the craziest championship ever. Don't want to face them and for sure they will be our biggest rival in 2 years but next season it looks a bit early.
Fox is older than SGA. They have Harrison Barnes as a veteran that has won it all. Wemby is entering year #3. OKC made their second round with Chet and JDub in their 2nd seasons and won a championship with them in their 3rd seasons. I would be surprised if the Spurs don't finish top 4, and depending on what else they do this off-season 2nd, in the West and make the 2nd round. If Castle improves his 3pt shooting to league average that team is going to be very deadly. They had CP3 this year giving guidance to Castle, which perhaps I over value the effect CP3 had on SGA, but I think he is an ideal coach for young PGs and he can show it on the court in games not just in theory with practice and film study.
I think the addition of Topic and Sorber keep OKC as the best team in the West and improves their playoff performance next season. I just see the Spurs as a team that has the best chance to push them past 5 games in a series next season, on paper. I think with OKC being battle tested and the experience they don't collapse in game 1s like they did against Denver and Indy next year.
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Devilanche wrote:No issue on the amount this and next season but between sorber / Jaylin / IH we should have C minutes covered for the upcoming 2 seasons.
It's a little bit more per year than I thought he was going to get, but I am VERY pleased with this move. I thought he'd get $6M/yr not $8M, but I'm about to say he isn't worth $8M. Presti is having a very good off-season. If it pays $8M/yr I believe this leaves them about $5M under the tax and if they put a bit more on the front end to reduce future cap hits then it could be helpful in keeping the core, including IH and Dort, around in '26-'27 when the number crunch kicks in.
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The Spurs are the team that worries me the most. I have Houston penciled in for most disappointing team next season. Denver is Denver and I'm not going to say they are not a significant concern.
I'm not high on the Rockets either. That KD move only makes them marginally better, IMO. He's just not the difference maker that he used to be, IMO.
His numbers will look good but I doubt they'll equate to winning at a high-clip. Kind of like you see with LeBron and the Lakers.
It's not an accident that he hasn't won a single playoff series since the left the Warriors.
Soon to be 37 year old Kevin Durant doesn't move me.
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the only thing I don't like about this Jwill extension is that it's gonna be tough to keep until the end of his contract. Love the guy but he isn't worth almost as much money as Wiggins.
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