OKC Thunder Trades and Transaction Thread

Kizz Fastfists · Post #2561 » by **Kizz Fastfists** » Mon Jun 30, 2025 6:03 pm

Dadouv47 wrote:

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bummer. Good for Topic though/

That was expected. Sorber is still recovering from a foot injury that prevented him from participating at the combine. Sorber is supposed to be ready to go by training camp.

Kizz Fastfists · Post #2562 » by **Kizz Fastfists** » Mon Jun 30, 2025 6:06 pm

JDub playing with a wrist injury could explain some of the inconsistencies with his offense in the playoffs. The injury would have been April 8th/9th, the dates of the back-to-back, so right before the start of the playoffs.

Kizz Fastfists · Post #2563 » by **Kizz Fastfists** » Mon Jun 30, 2025 6:14 pm

Jazz made an interesting move getting rid of Sexton for Nurkic. It will give them a lot of cap space next off-season and sets up the opportunity for Ace to be high usage as a rookie. If Ace is as good as advertised, he was considered by a lot of people to be the #3 prospect in the draft, the Utah pick has a chance to convey next season. Collins showed a return to form last season and with Lauri and Ace along with solid play at center with Nurkic and Kessler they could fight for a play-in spot.

OKC has 4 potential FRPs in 2026 and 3 in 2027. I'm assuming the Philly pick conveys in 2026, but if it doesn't it pushes 2027 to 4 potential FRPs. They have a guaranteed two in each of those drafts. The 2028 pick swap with Dallas is a lot less likely to be a home run with them getting Flagg, but with Kyrie and AD injury histories there is a slim chance it could be a lottery pick. OKC should also have two FRPs in 2029. A lot of draft capital remaining for OKC and hopefully Presti converts more of them to future picks, because I don't see OKC being in position to add that many rookies over the next few years.

Post #2564 » by **Dadouv47** » Mon Jun 30, 2025 6:28 pm

Kizz Fastfists wrote:Jazz made an interesting move getting rid of Sexton for Nurkic. It will give them a lot of cap space next off-season and sets up the opportunity for Ace to be high usage as a rookie. If Ace is as good as advertised, he was considered by a lot of people to be the #3 prospect in the draft, the Utah pick has a chance to convey next season. Collins showed a return to form last season and with Lauri and Ace along with solid play at center with Nurkic and Kessler they could fight for a play-in spot.

OKC has 4 potential FRPs in 2026 and 3 in 2027. I'm assuming the Philly pick conveys in 2026, but if it doesn't it pushes 2027 to 4 potential FRPs. They have a guaranteed two in each of those drafts. The 2028 pick swap with Dallas is a lot less likely to be a home run with them getting Flagg, but with Kyrie and AD injury histories there is a slim chance it could be a lottery pick. OKC should also have two FRPs in 2029. A lot of draft capital remaining for OKC and hopefully Presti converts more of them to future picks, because I don't see OKC being in position to add that many rookies over the next few years.

Utah pick won't convey except if they make some significant moves. It's more likely they move Lauri than the pick convey IMO. Ace Bailey is a very young rookie...can't impact them that much. Who can be worse than them in the West? Probably nobody but maybeeee Portland/Phoenix. Still long way to go for that pick to convey.

spearsy23 · Post #2565 » by **spearsy23** » Mon Jun 30, 2025 6:44 pm

Kizz Fastfists wrote:Jazz made an interesting move getting rid of Sexton for Nurkic. It will give them a lot of cap space next off-season and sets up the opportunity for Ace to be high usage as a rookie.

Really don't get this move at all. Sexton was already an expiring, giving up a second round pick to swap him for Nurkic makes no sense. Sexton is a useful player to a middle of the pack team, it's crazy that they were the team giving up the pick.

Post #2566 » by **Dadouv47** » Mon Jun 30, 2025 6:48 pm

spearsy23 wrote:
Kizz Fastfists wrote:Jazz made an interesting move getting rid of Sexton for Nurkic. It will give them a lot of cap space next off-season and sets up the opportunity for Ace to be high usage as a rookie.

Really don't get this move at all. Sexton was already an expiring, giving up a second round pick to swap him for Nurkic makes no sense. Sexton is a useful player to a middle of the pack team, it's crazy that they were the team giving up the pick.

He might prove me wrong in the next couple of days but I hate Ainge job since he joined Utah (yeah he got the best value ever for Gobert but other than that I don't understand what he's doing with that team).

spearsy23 · Post #2567 » by **spearsy23** » Mon Jun 30, 2025 6:58 pm

Dadouv47 wrote:
spearsy23 wrote:
Kizz Fastfists wrote:Jazz made an interesting move getting rid of Sexton for Nurkic. It will give them a lot of cap space next off-season and sets up the opportunity for Ace to be high usage as a rookie.

Really don't get this move at all. Sexton was already an expiring, giving up a second round pick to swap him for Nurkic makes no sense. Sexton is a useful player to a middle of the pack team, it's crazy that they were the team giving up the pick.

He might prove me wrong in the next couple of days but I hate Ainge job since he joined Utah (yeah he got the best value ever for Gobert but other than that I don't understand what he's doing with that team).

I don't know what direction they're moving, but I also don't know what more could be expected of him. Utah isn't getting free agents, markannen was just good enough that teams weren't going to value him like an all-star but Ainge couldn't trade him like he was an average starter, and this was the first year they really had what could be considered a high pick. The job he has done is going to come down to Bailey at this point. If he plays like a guy who could reach his ceiling then they're okay, but I don't have a lot of faith that he is going to be as good as people would hope. It's also not necessarily a bad thing that he didn't completely tank going into last year's underwhelming draft. If he goes with a two year tank and ends up with Bailey hitting and one of next year's big 3 then he'll look pretty good.

spearsy23 · Post #2568 » by **spearsy23** » Mon Jun 30, 2025 7:00 pm

And now they've bought out Clarkson too, this does look like it could be a teardown for another tank year.

Post #2569 » by **Dadouv47** » Mon Jun 30, 2025 7:41 pm

spearsy23 wrote:
Dadouv47 wrote:
spearsy23 wrote:Really don't get this move at all. Sexton was already an expiring, giving up a second round pick to swap him for Nurkic makes no sense. Sexton is a useful player to a middle of the pack team, it's crazy that they were the team giving up the pick.

He might prove me wrong in the next couple of days but I hate Ainge job since he joined Utah (yeah he got the best value ever for Gobert but other than that I don't understand what he's doing with that team).

I don't know what direction they're moving, but I also don't know what more could be expected of him. Utah isn't getting free agents, markannen was just good enough that teams weren't going to value him like an all-star but Ainge couldn't trade him like he was an average starter, and this was the first year they really had what could be considered a high pick. The job he has done is going to come down to Bailey at this point. If he plays like a guy who could reach his ceiling then they're okay, but I don't have a lot of faith that he is going to be as good as people would hope. It's also not necessarily a bad thing that he didn't completely tank going into last year's underwhelming draft. If he goes with a two year tank and ends up with Bailey hitting and one of next year's big 3 then he'll look pretty good.

well Hendricks looks like a bust, no clue about Cody Williams but don't blame the pick and yeah we will see about Ace Bailey.

Still think they should have traded Lauri but they wanted a superstar package and we all know that with his injury history he wasn't going to net a good prospect and 5 FRPs.

Clarkson being waved is another waste. He could have traded him for value one or two seasons ago and he knew they were still going to tank.

Devilanche · Post #2570 » by **Devilanche** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 11:18 am

Dadouv47 wrote:
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This is the upgrade to our rotation for next year.

spearsy23 · Post #2571 » by **spearsy23** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 11:42 am

If Topic plays up to his draft hype and Sorber is able to give rotational C minutes then we've really made all the upgrades we could have realistically hoped for.

Patches Perry · Post #2572 » by **Patches Perry** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 1:27 pm

Do we expect extensions for Jdub and Chet this summer? Doesn't making another All-NBA team give Jdub another level of possible earnings, therefore he might be better off waiting? What's the feeling around here?

Patches Perry · Post #2573 » by **Patches Perry** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 1:38 pm

Is this the roster going into next season?

15 man (not strict on positions and order here):
G- SGA, Mitchell, Topic
G- Dort, Caruso, Wallace
F- Dub, Wiggins, Joe
F- Chet, Kenrich, Dieng
C- Hartenstein, Jwill, Sorber
2-way- Barnhizer, Carlson, Flagler/Ducas

If that 15 man changes at all, I think it's Joe and/or Dieng on the move. The rest seem to be locked in for now.

Devilanche · Post #2574 » by **Devilanche** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 2:07 pm

Patches Perry wrote:Is this the roster going into next season?

15 man (not strict on positions and order here):
G- SGA, Mitchell, Topic
G- Dort, Caruso, Wallace
F- Dub, Wiggins, Joe
F- Chet, Kenrich, Dieng
C- Hartenstein, Jwill, Sorber
2-way- Barnhizer, Carlson, Flagler/Ducas

If that 15 man changes at all, I think it's Joe and/or Dieng on the move. The rest seem to be locked in for now.

Looks about right. Weakness at forward and probably a different 2 way than Flagler/ Ducas

spearsy23 · Post #2575 » by **spearsy23** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 2:30 pm

I think Carlson is better than Dieng. I'd rather move on from Ous and sign BC to a full contract.

Kizz Fastfists · Post #2576 » by **Kizz Fastfists** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 2:59 pm

spearsy23 wrote:I think Carlson is better than Dieng. I'd rather move on from Ous and sign BC to a full contract.

I'm going to disagree with part of this. BC might be better, but I'd rather keep Dieng as an expiring than give BC a multi-year deal. Next off-season is going to be a significant number crunch both for roster spots and the cap and I'd rather just Dieng be the 15th man and then replaced with a rookie contract next year. OKC is so deep they don't have Dieng listed anywhere on their 4 deep depth chart. I don't agree with their depth chart, but it shows that Dieng isn't even thought of as a rotation player for the team at this point.

I think next offseason we'll see Dieng and Kenrich replaced with rookies to reduce the tax bill. IH and Dort are the ones they need to keep and it will be interesting to see how Presti deals with that number crunch. Depending on how this season plays out we could see Joe or Wiggins moved next off-season for some cap relief. I'm not going to run the numbers, but my assumption is they will go in the tax in '26-'27, but stay under the first apron.

spearsy23 · Post #2577 » by **spearsy23** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 3:04 pm

Kizz Fastfists wrote:
spearsy23 wrote:I think Carlson is better than Dieng. I'd rather move on from Ous and sign BC to a full contract.

I'm going to disagree with part of this. BC might be better, but I'd rather keep Dieng as an expiring than give BC a multi-year deal. Next off-season is going to be a significant number crunch both for roster spots and the cap and I'd rather just Dieng be the 15th man and then replaced with a rookie contract next year. OKC is so deep they don't have Dieng listed anywhere on their 4 deep depth chart. I don't agree with their depth chart, but it shows that Dieng isn't even thought of as a rotation player for the team at this point.

I think next offseason we'll see Dieng and Kenrich replaced with rookies to reduce the tax bill. IH and Dort are the ones they need to keep and it will be interesting to see how Presti deals with that number crunch. Depending on how this season plays out we could see Joe or Wiggins moved next off-season for some cap relief. I'm not going to run the numbers, but my assumption is they will go in the tax in '26-'27, but stay under the first apron.

I don't think IHart gets extended. I think he was signed as a mercenary knowing he wouldn't be the long term answer d/t financial restrictions.

Kizz Fastfists · Post #2578 » by **Kizz Fastfists** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 3:09 pm

spearsy23 wrote:I don't think IHart gets extended. I think he was signed as a mercenary knowing he wouldn't be the long term answer d/t financial restrictions.

I don't think he gets extended, but I think ideally they pick up his option for '26-'27. I'm not convinced that Sorber/Jaylin will be ready to take over his starting spot at that point.

spearsy23 · Post #2579 » by **spearsy23** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 3:16 pm

Kizz Fastfists wrote:
spearsy23 wrote:I don't think IHart gets extended. I think he was signed as a mercenary knowing he wouldn't be the long term answer d/t financial restrictions.

I don't think he gets extended, but I think ideally they pick up his option for '26-'27. I'm not convinced that Sorber/Jaylin will be ready to take over his starting spot at that point.

I don't see it, I think either Sorber takes over that position or we roll with Chet back to starting at Center. Possibly both with Sorber taking over the position at the beginning of the year, not being ready, and Chet starting by the end. We aren't going to have the same depth in 3 years, it's just not possible. I think Center is the position we deprioritize.

Devilanche · Post #2580 » by **Devilanche** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 3:37 pm

spearsy23 wrote:
Kizz Fastfists wrote:
spearsy23 wrote:I don't think IHart gets extended. I think he was signed as a mercenary knowing he wouldn't be the long term answer d/t financial restrictions.

I don't think he gets extended, but I think ideally they pick up his option for '26-'27. I'm not convinced that Sorber/Jaylin will be ready to take over his starting spot at that point.

I don't see it, I think either Sorber takes over that position or we roll with Chet back to starting at Center. Possibly both with Sorber taking over the position at the beginning of the year, not being ready, and Chet starting by the end. We aren't going to have the same depth in 3 years, it's just not possible. I think Center is the position we deprioritize.

Have to see how fast sorber develops next season, maybe Jaylin add to his game and Chet get more size .

As is we probably would move our excess in the backcourt to keep IH for 2 season at least .