2016 Playoffs Round 1: OKC Thunder vs. Dallas Mavericks

[bondom34]

I know the Dion hate is strong in this thread but am I the only one who thought that was an obvious foul on that that free throw?

Yeah thought the same.

And I'll leave this before I go for the night. He's not too bright this one.

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[Andre Roberstan]

I know the Dion hate is strong in this thread but am I the only one who thought that was an obvious foul on that that free throw?

Yeah thought the same.

And I'll leave this before I go for the night. He's not too bright this one.

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I don't...entirely...disagree. That last ATO was actually a really good play and KD was wide open. And he provided specific examples of the shots he thought were good.

Personally I lay the entire blame for this game on the NO PG LINEUP WHEN WILL YOU LEARN THAT DOING THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AGAIN DOESN'T GET BETTER RESULTS BILLY.

[Andre Roberstan]

I know the Dion hate is strong in this thread but am I the only one who thought that was an obvious foul on that that free throw?

Dion was remarkably average in this game, which I count as a win for him.

[spearsy23]

Did the Memphis 2014 series never happen?

Scotty wasn't great, but he wasn't this terrible. Donovan may very well be one of the worst coaches in the league. He is literally doing everything wrong. He goes away from everything that works and manages to **** it up even more.

Did you completely forget Brooks running the same play every time we ran down the court which Memphis was shutting down ever single time?

You aren't winning **** with Russ and KD playing this garbage. No matter what team they are playing.

You mean the series where we had KD playing without any other competent offensive player for the first time in his career against one of the best defensive teams in the league? Yeah, Scotty didn't pull magic out of his butt, but he was never a bad coach. Remember the 2013 WCF? Or literally every playoff series with a healthy Russ/KD/Serge?

[jbk1234]

I know the Dion hate is strong in this thread but am I the only one who thought that was an obvious foul on that that free throw?

Dion was remarkably average in this game, which I count as a win for him.

Yeah I thought Westbrook lost this game for you guys - on both sides of the ball.

[Pillendreher]

Honestly, if we had a coach that belonged in the NBA our bench would have at least three NBA caliber players, and a couple others that could play spot minutes.

Sure. Funnily enough, our bench could be improved by playing guys within the roster but I guess that's impossible because a night without Foye is no night at all, right?

Morrow, Kanter, Cam is a solid if underwhelming basis for a bench. Dion and Singler could play minutes here and there, same with Nick and maybe Mitch if last season wasn't some major fluke. I mean those guys all played last year (and DJ instead of Cam!) and missed out on the playoffs by a tiebreaker despite missing Russ and KD and Serge and Steven and Robes all for stretches. It's odd that they suddenly can't even compete with other bench units.

That said, KD deserves even more blame than Donovan for this game and I don't want it to seem like I'm giving him a pass.

Yeah I mean look at that Mavs roster. Imagine us having Felton: Would he look like a halfway decent NBA player? Look at what Augustin has done for Denver. Even Kyle freaking Singler was a solid NBA player for Detroit.

Did the Memphis 2014 series never happen?

Scotty wasn't great, but he wasn't this terrible. Donovan may very well be one of the worst coaches in the league. He is literally doing everything wrong. He goes away from everything that works and manages to **** it up even more.

Did you completely forget Brooks running the same play every time we ran down the court which Memphis was shutting down ever single time?

You aren't winning **** with Russ and KD playing this garbage. No matter what team they are playing.

These breakdowns aren't new, but this has reached a whole other dimension. Whereas they didn't happen all that often under Brooks (at least in the regular season, we have been **** up 4th quarters at an historically bad level this season.
There are two possible reasons for this:

1) Donovan wants them to play like this

2) He doesn't, but they ignore him.

Either way, him being coach isn't working at all. Of course this is also on Russ and KD, but if he, the coach, is unable to change that ****, we'll then he needs to go like yesterday.

Why did Presti bring him in? What improved under his tenure? We're **** up in 4th quarters at an historically bad level, can't defend for 48 minutes a game, let alone consecutive games and haven improved our offense at all. I reckon the only things that really changed were the individual progresses of our young guys, but that's it and that's surely not Donovan's success.

[bondom34]

2 people posted these on reddit and I know its rough, but a legitimate thing:

[tweet]https://twitter.com/KingOfThornton/status/722254428372230144[/tweet]

Pelton said something similar. I kinda agree. I know kicking him while he's down but man its a thing that makes me think he'd never live in a big city.

[bondom34]

I know the Dion hate is strong in this thread but am I the only one who thought that was an obvious foul on that that free throw?

Dion was remarkably average in this game, which I count as a win for him.

Yeah I thought Westbrook lost this game for you guys - on both sides of the ball.

The hell?

[jbk1234]

Dion was remarkably average in this game, which I count as a win for him.

Yeah I thought Westbrook lost this game for you guys - on both sides of the ball.

The hell?

4th quarter.

[spearsy23]

2 people posted these on reddit and I know its rough, but a legitimate thing:

[tweet]https://twitter.com/KingOfThornton/status/722254428372230144[/tweet]

Pelton said something similar. I kinda agree. I know kicking him while he's down but man its a thing that makes me think he'd never live in a big city.

It's a better argument on a night where Russ doesn't go 8/21 though. They both were worthless, KD was just a historic level of ineptitude. And everyone is pretty much killing him aren't they?

[bwgood77]

Tough loss. But I guess the silver lining is that Durant shooting 21% on 33 shots and him and Westbrook combined 27% on 55 shots and still basically losing at the buzzer. I mean, how often are they going to shoot that poorly?

[bondom34]

Yeah I thought Westbrook lost this game for you guys - on both sides of the ball.

The hell?

4th quarter.

I mean, the entire game KD was awful and Kanter didn't exist. If you thought that game was on him I really don't know what to think. He wasn't good, but Durant was awful and the coach is terrible. The best 3 bench players played a combined 20ish minutes and 1 of them was a DNP.

[KD35Brah]

Scotty wasn't great, but he wasn't this terrible. Donovan may very well be one of the worst coaches in the league. He is literally doing everything wrong. He goes away from everything that works and manages to **** it up even more.

Did you completely forget Brooks running the same play every time we ran down the court which Memphis was shutting down ever single time?

You aren't winning **** with Russ and KD playing this garbage. No matter what team they are playing.

You mean the series where we had KD playing without any other competent offensive player for the first time in his career against one of the best defensive teams in the league? Yeah, Scotty didn't pull magic out of his butt, but he was never a bad coach. Remember the 2013 WCF? Or literally every playoff series with a healthy Russ/KD/Serge?

You got your years mixed up.

2014 Grizzlies series, Brooks shortcomings were in full display. Clippers couldn't guard Russ and KD, simple as that. I don't even want to talk about the Spurs series.

[bondom34]

2 people posted these on reddit and I know its rough, but a legitimate thing:

[tweet]https://twitter.com/KingOfThornton/status/722254428372230144[/tweet]

Pelton said something similar. I kinda agree. I know kicking him while he's down but man its a thing that makes me think he'd never live in a big city.

It's a better argument on a night where Russ doesn't go 8/21 though. They both were worthless, KD was just a historic level of ineptitude. And everyone is pretty much killing him aren't they?

Relatively no. If it were Russ this would be headline news and DURANT IS LEAVING OMG everywhere. If it were NY or LA, he'd be front page.

[jbk1234]

The hell?

4th quarter.

I mean, the entire game KD was awful and Kanter didn't exist. If you thought that game was on him I really don't know what to think. He wasn't good, but Durant was awful and the coach is terrible. The best 3 bench players played a combined 20ish minutes and 1 of them was a DNP.

I saw a PG chucking up 3 point shots early in the clock and not playing good D. That's what I saw.

[spearsy23]

Yeah I thought Westbrook lost this game for you guys - on both sides of the ball.

The hell?

4th quarter.

Not really, he did give up a couple of baskets but Felton also made some long two's that Billy's defense is designed to give up. He actually controlled the flow pretty well and got a couple of good looks and moved the defense leading to putbacks for the bigs. If KD didn't go 7/6000000000 Russ would've had a triple double..

[bondom34]

4th quarter.

I mean, the entire game KD was awful and Kanter didn't exist. If you thought that game was on him I really don't know what to think. He wasn't good, but Durant was awful and the coach is terrible. The best 3 bench players played a combined 20ish minutes and 1 of them was a DNP.

I saw a PG chucking up 3 point shots early in the clock and not playing good D. That's what I saw.

He shot 2 3s in the fourth, and one was with the clock running out....

And that's how the defense is designed.

[Pillendreher]

Tough loss. But I guess the silver lining is that Durant shooting 21% on 33 shots and him and Westbrook combined 27% on 55 shots and still basically losing at the buzzer. I mean, how often are they going to shoot that poorly?

Well the problem is games like this just show what an atrocious coach Donovan is. Especially Durant kept forcing the issue. A decent coach finds a way around off nights. Donovan didn't even try anything. I mean at this point I'm pretty sure he doesn't even have a 'concept' or a plan. He lucked into a great job and is in no way qualified for it.

[Old Man Game]

Sure glad we fired Brooks so we could have nice crisp offense late in fourth quarters in playoff games. No posting up KD 19-25 get from the basket. Tons of ball movement. Life is so radical.

[spearsy23]

4th quarter.

I mean, the entire game KD was awful and Kanter didn't exist. If you thought that game was on him I really don't know what to think. He wasn't good, but Durant was awful and the coach is terrible. The best 3 bench players played a combined 20ish minutes and 1 of them was a DNP.

I saw a PG chucking up 3 point shots early in the clock and not playing good D. That's what I saw.

He took two three pointers and one was a wide open one off of a designed play... You saw what you wanted too, I guess.