WCQF | (4) Oklahoma City Thunder vs Utah Jazz (5) | UTA 4-2

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Series Prediction

Thunder in 4
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1%
Thunder in 5
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8%
Thunder in 6
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25%
Thunder in 7
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8%
Jazz in 4
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Jazz in 5
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22%
Jazz in 6
25
32%
Jazz in 7
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5%
 
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Post#281 » by sonictecture » Tue Apr 17, 2018 6:08 pm

I enjoyed the adjustments made by Miami and even the Spurs last night. Grateful for playoff basketball. Quinn is the appointed genius coach in the match up so I'm interested to see how he adjusts and if it makes a difference for Utah.

Utah could attempt more Ingles/Gobert or Ingles/Favors PNR's as Ingles would be a threat shooting, but does Quinn try it with George in the game? Does Mitchell run in PNR for Utah? Utah fans are saying Ingles should play every minute that George is on the bench, but I think that is still a win for OKC.

Coming in I thought that if Utah had to rely on running plays for Favors to get offense that the Thunder were doing several things right defensively.

I can remember a time where teams packed the paint against Westbrook and he still forced his way to the hoop. It's been rewarding to see him develop over the years and use his midrange game in this series. I think George's hot shooting took the team out of some of their planned offense, but when the team went to the PNR for some offense, I thought Westbrook did a nice job of creating extra space and arching his pass over the length of Gobert. There were a couple of uncharacteristic misses on the finish from Adams and Grant, but you felt like there was something there for game 2.
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Post#282 » by Pillendreher » Tue Apr 17, 2018 6:23 pm

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Post#283 » by sonictecture » Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:54 pm

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I'm ready for our starters or Ferguson-Huestis.

Sounds like Paul has some lingering pain from the hip. Sometimes you feel it more the days following the injury. Seems smart to keep him out and see how he feels on game day. It would be a serious blow to not have Playoff P.

If Paul misses the game, I would want to see Huestis start as I think maintaing defense on Ingles is a good thing. Wouldn't mind seeing Abrines start for Brewer in such a scenario. Westbrook would be inclined to do more and Anthony would get more shots.
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Post#284 » by Andre Roberstan » Tue Apr 17, 2018 8:27 pm

sonictecture wrote:
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I'm ready for our starters or Ferguson-Huestis.

Sounds like Paul has some lingering pain from the hip. Sometimes you feel it more the days following the injury. Seems smart to keep him out and see how he feels on game day. It would be a serious blow to not have Playoff P.

If Paul misses the game, I would want to see Huestis start as I think maintaing defense on Ingles is a good thing. Wouldn't mind seeing Abrines start for Brewer in such a scenario. Westbrook would be inclined to do more and Anthony would get more shots.


My best guess at a starting lineup if PG were out is Abrines/Brewer, with Russ taking the Mitchell matchup and Brewer taking Ingles. But IDK.
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Post#285 » by thekaoswithin » Tue Apr 17, 2018 9:29 pm

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I'm ready for our starters or Ferguson-Huestis.

Sounds like Paul has some lingering pain from the hip. Sometimes you feel it more the days following the injury. Seems smart to keep him out and see how he feels on game day. It would be a serious blow to not have Playoff P.

If Paul misses the game, I would want to see Huestis start as I think maintaing defense on Ingles is a good thing. Wouldn't mind seeing Abrines start for Brewer in such a scenario. Westbrook would be inclined to do more and Anthony would get more shots.


My best guess at a starting lineup if PG were out is Abrines/Brewer, with Russ taking the Mitchell matchup and Brewer taking Ingles. But IDK.


If Russ promises to be diligent on defence then i'm fine with this. I'd rather sit PG a game now then have him injured all playoffs and let it be worse later
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Post#286 » by bondom34 » Tue Apr 17, 2018 10:00 pm

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Post#287 » by dakomish23 » Wed Apr 18, 2018 12:53 am

sonictecture wrote:I enjoyed the adjustments made by Miami and even the Spurs last night. Grateful for playoff basketball. Quinn is the appointed genius coach in the match up so I'm interested to see how he adjusts and if it makes a difference for Utah.

Utah could attempt more Ingles/Gobert or Ingles/Favors PNR's as Ingles would be a threat shooting, but does Quinn try it with George in the game? Does Mitchell run in PNR for Utah? Utah fans are saying Ingles should play every minute that George is on the bench, but I think that is still a win for OKC.

Coming in I thought that if Utah had to rely on running plays for Favors to get offense that the Thunder were doing several things right defensively.

I can remember a time where teams packed the paint against Westbrook and he still forced his way to the hoop. It's been rewarding to see him develop over the years and use his midrange game in this series. I think George's hot shooting took the team out of some of their planned offense, but when the team went to the PNR for some offense, I thought Westbrook did a nice job of creating extra space and arching his pass over the length of Gobert. There were a couple of uncharacteristic misses on the finish from Adams and Grant, but you felt like there was something there for game 2.


Do they run Mitchell / Ingles PnR plays?
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Post#288 » by NetsWorld » Wed Apr 18, 2018 2:05 pm

Expecting Utah to come out tougher and better and taking Game 2. I see this as a series going 2-2 with each splitting on each other's court. If proven otherwise, thank God.
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Post#289 » by thekaoswithin » Wed Apr 18, 2018 2:35 pm

I really hope PG doesn't play if it's 50/50. We need him healthy going forward.
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Post#290 » by hardenASG13 » Wed Apr 18, 2018 2:45 pm

thekaoswithin wrote:I really hope PG doesn't play if it's 50/50. We need him healthy going forward.


What indicators are there that he's 50/50? That he didn't do much in practice yesterday? Why would he, if he's sore? This is a must win game, he can rest Thursday and friday.
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Post#291 » by ThunderBolt » Wed Apr 18, 2018 2:56 pm

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thekaoswithin wrote:I really hope PG doesn't play if it's 50/50. We need him healthy going forward.


What indicators are there that he's 50/50? That he didn't do much in practice yesterday? Why would he, if he's sore? This is a must win game, he can rest Thursday and friday.

No it’s not.
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Post#292 » by hardenASG13 » Wed Apr 18, 2018 3:15 pm

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thekaoswithin wrote:I really hope PG doesn't play if it's 50/50. We need him healthy going forward.


What indicators are there that he's 50/50? That he didn't do much in practice yesterday? Why would he, if he's sore? This is a must win game, he can rest Thursday and friday.

No it’s not.


Well unless you are firmly invested in the team imploding it is.........give us back our piiiiccckk :lol:

Get the hell out of here, this is a huge game for them, better? He shouldn't sit out with a sore hip, they can take complete control of the series tonight or give homecourt to utah.
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Post#293 » by ThunderBolt » Wed Apr 18, 2018 3:21 pm

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What indicators are there that he's 50/50? That he didn't do much in practice yesterday? Why would he, if he's sore? This is a must win game, he can rest Thursday and friday.

No it’s not.


Well unless you are firmly invested in the team imploding it is.........give us back our piiiiccckk :lol:

Get the hell out of here, this is a huge game for them, better? He shouldn't sit out with a sore hip, they can take complete control of the series tonight or give homecourt to utah.

Yes it’s better because it’s not hyperbole or just aplain inaccurate statement. There is an argument to be made for getting a player healthy. Being up 1-0 in a series that you said you expect them to win doesn’t qualify as a must win. You should know better.
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Post#294 » by hardenASG13 » Wed Apr 18, 2018 3:24 pm

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Knrstz wrote:No it’s not.


Well unless you are firmly invested in the team imploding it is.........give us back our piiiiccckk :lol:

Get the hell out of here, this is a huge game for them, better? He shouldn't sit out with a sore hip, they can take complete control of the series tonight or give homecourt to utah.

Yes it’s better because it’s not hyperbole or just plain inaccurate statements you make. There is an argument to be made for getting a player healthy. Being up 1-0 in a series that you said youexpect them to win doesn’t qualify as a must win. Even you should know better.


Sure pal. He should sit out a playoff game, against a good team, with a sore hip, and several days of rest coming up. You are right. I'm surprised your watching the playoffs, must be hard for you.
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Post#295 » by ThunderBolt » Wed Apr 18, 2018 3:28 pm

hardenASG13 wrote:
Knrstz wrote:
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Well unless you are firmly invested in the team imploding it is.........give us back our piiiiccckk :lol:

Get the hell out of here, this is a huge game for them, better? He shouldn't sit out with a sore hip, they can take complete control of the series tonight or give homecourt to utah.

Yes it’s better because it’s not hyperbole or just plain inaccurate statements you make. There is an argument to be made for getting a player healthy. Being up 1-0 in a series that you said youexpect them to win doesn’t qualify as a must win. Even you should know better.


Sure pal. He should sit out a playoff game, against a good team, with a sore hip, and several days of rest coming up. You are right. I'm surprised your watching the playoffs, must be hard for you.

Right... because no player has ever made their injury worse because they tried to play on it too soon. :crazy: You don’t know the severity of his injury. It’s reasonable to discuss the benefits of getting him healthier if he’s still hurting. Considering you’re someone who has touted the superiority of this team all year long, you can’t expect to come on here and call game 2 a “must win” and not get called out.
Go ahead and enjoy living in the moment instead of thinking with any foresight whatsoever. Maybe if PJ Dozier plays tonight and hits a three you’ll be on here touting his superiority as a two way player. No one here buys you’re shtick.
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Post#296 » by bondom34 » Wed Apr 18, 2018 3:44 pm

Knstrz has always cheered for this team even it he wanted a rebuild at times. It isn't a must win. It would be nice to win sure. But they're up 1-0. I have a feeling they lose this one bit like unsaid earlier I don't think either team wins 3 straight in this series, its an even matchup. I dont think he's hurt considering Horne showed the play it happened and it was in the first half and he had like 20 or so points after it.
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Post#297 » by hardenASG13 » Wed Apr 18, 2018 3:49 pm

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Knrstz wrote:Yes it’s better because it’s not hyperbole or just plain inaccurate statements you make. There is an argument to be made for getting a player healthy. Being up 1-0 in a series that you said youexpect them to win doesn’t qualify as a must win. Even you should know better.


Sure pal. He should sit out a playoff game, against a good team, with a sore hip, and several days of rest coming up. You are right. I'm surprised your watching the playoffs, must be hard for you.

Right... because no player has ever made their injury worse because they tried to play on it too soon. :crazy: You don’t know the severity of his injury. It’s reasonable to discuss the benefits of getting him healthier if he’s still hurting. Considering you’re someone who has touted the superiority of this team all year long, you can’t expect to come on here and call game 2 a “must win” and not get called out.
Go ahead and enjoy living in the moment instead of thinking with any foresight whatsoever. Maybe if PJ Dozier plays tonight and hits a three you’ll be on here touting his superiority as a two way player. No one here buys you’re shtick.


Yeah I've touted the playoff superiority all season of this team. Paul George is a big part of the team. Do you not think this game is huge for them? Guys play hurt in the playoffs. There's no shtick, they have turned it up, the rotation shortened, and they look like a team with a punchers chance. All your foolish over reactions to meaningless losses, lineup stats, and regular season SRS stats mean absolutely nothing now. You guys all look like whiny idiots, especially those (you) who actively rooted for the team to miss the Playoffs, instead of getting to watch this play out. I get it, it must be embarrassing. Looks like slick is the latest guy you are attempting to be like with the shtick comment.

Give us back our piiiiiiiicccckkk......if I don't like your opposing viewpoints I'll block you :lol: Truly pathetic.
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Post#298 » by hardenASG13 » Wed Apr 18, 2018 3:52 pm

bondom34 wrote:Knstrz has always cheered for this team even it he wanted a rebuild at times. It isn't a must win. It would be nice to win sure. But they're up 1-0. I have a feeling they lose this one bit like unsaid earlier I don't think either team wins 3 straight in this series, its an even matchup. I dont think he's hurt considering Horne showed the play it happened and it was in the first half and he had like 20 or so points after it.


He most certainly has not. He has been rooting for them to miss the Playoffs for a long time. In the houston game thread (where you were happy the season was over), he claimed to have a vested interest in the team imploding. This was like a week and a half ago. Looks like a complete punk and is embarrassed. Fine it's not a must win, nitpick a choice of words like you guys always do. It's a big playoff game, and he shouldn't sit with a hip contusion. That's just ridiculous.
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Post#299 » by ThunderBolt » Wed Apr 18, 2018 3:59 pm

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bondom34 wrote:Knstrz has always cheered for this team even it he wanted a rebuild at times. It isn't a must win. It would be nice to win sure. But they're up 1-0. I have a feeling they lose this one bit like unsaid earlier I don't think either team wins 3 straight in this series, its an even matchup. I dont think he's hurt considering Horne showed the play it happened and it was in the first half and he had like 20 or so points after it.


He most certainly has not. He has been rooting for them to miss the Playoffs for a long time. In the houston game thread (where you were happy the season was over), he claimed to have a vested interest in the team imploding. This was like a week and a half ago. Looks like a complete punk and is embarrassed. Fine it's not a must win, nitpick a choice of words like you guys always do. It's a big playoff game, and he shouldn't sit with a hip contusion. That's just ridiculous.

I also said now that they are in the playoffs there is no reason to hope for anything other than that they win every game. I’m not the least bit embarrassed of my opinions.
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Post#300 » by bondom34 » Wed Apr 18, 2018 4:01 pm

hardenASG13 wrote:
bondom34 wrote:Knstrz has always cheered for this team even it he wanted a rebuild at times. It isn't a must win. It would be nice to win sure. But they're up 1-0. I have a feeling they lose this one bit like unsaid earlier I don't think either team wins 3 straight in this series, its an even matchup. I dont think he's hurt considering Horne showed the play it happened and it was in the first half and he had like 20 or so points after it.


He most certainly has not. He has been rooting for them to miss the Playoffs for a long time. In the houston game thread (where you were happy the season was over), he claimed to have a vested interest in the team imploding. This was like a week and a half ago. Looks like a complete punk and is embarrassed. Fine it's not a must win, nitpick a choice of words like you guys always do. It's a big playoff game, and he shouldn't sit with a hip contusion. That's just ridiculous.

Hes also said multi times he cheers for.them no matter what they do even if they don't see the same future he does.

You whining about it daily and attacking him doesnt solve anything. And playing through injury isn't generally a great idea. Its how you end up losing long term.
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