2019-20 OKC Thunder Regular Season Thread

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Re: 2019-20 OKC Thunder Regular Season Thread 

Post#281 » by ThunderBolt » Sun Dec 15, 2019 4:42 am

We probably should have kept Brandon Clarke. I realize he is 23 years old but sometimes it gets old feeling like every player we draft on a rookie contract uses it to develop basic basketball skills like dribbling and shooting.
bisme37 wrote:If there were magnets in basketballs so strong they changed the path of the ball as it flew through the air, wouldn't the ball then stick magnetically to the rim when it got there?
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Post#282 » by jambalaya » Wed Dec 18, 2019 4:21 am

On RPM estimate, Schroder is currently the highest rated PG for impact per minute in league. Paul 11th for PGs. Both mainly from defense.

SGA 70th among SGs and modestly negative.

Galinari and Adams modest positives.

SGA ranks a bit behind Malick Beasley on estimated impact rate. Mildly negative on both offense and defense. A bit ahead of his cousin Nicholas Alexander-Walker and tiny bit ahead of Deonte Burton.


Fwiw, B Clarke is estimated as a moderate positive. Helpful on offense, mildly negative on defense. Baxley the opposite. Helpful D partially offsetting bad offensive impact. What public buzz he had in draft was about offense. I don't know what Presti saw / expected. But if he wanted offensive impact, he maybe should have stayed with Clarke. As is, he might need to look for a big with offensive impact in near future. Probably at PF.
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Post#283 » by Galloisdaman » Wed Dec 18, 2019 4:28 pm

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Post#284 » by Galloisdaman » Wed Dec 18, 2019 4:30 pm

How great of the Thunder and Homeland to do that for those people! Way to go Gallo!
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Post#285 » by slick_watts » Thu Dec 19, 2019 1:19 pm

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Post#286 » by ThunderBolt » Thu Dec 19, 2019 1:51 pm

slick_watts wrote:Image


Ouch
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Post#287 » by jambalaya » Thu Dec 19, 2019 3:36 pm

So Dion level in many measures but with some more ft action / success, a little better rebounding and less passing action (success and failure).

Presti or a fan (might think / say): "But he looks so smooth and silky!" Some of the time. But not the times where he misses more than league average.
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Post#288 » by slick_watts » Thu Dec 19, 2019 4:25 pm

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how did sam presti manage to get two picks and save $40 million, again? holy moley.
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Post#289 » by Kizz Fastfists » Thu Dec 19, 2019 4:37 pm

slick_watts wrote:how did sam presti manage to get two picks and save $40 million, again? holy moley.


Because Morey was forced by ownership to make the trade. For some reason Harden wanted Russ so ownership made that happen and didn't care about the cost. Remember the team was sold in late 2017. Houston will end up like the Knicks with an owner that burns them to the ground and doesn't understand why they can't get competent help or build a winner. Did anyone actually think Russ was better than CP3 at this point when the trade happened?
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Post#290 » by ThunderBolt » Fri Dec 20, 2019 12:29 am

bisme37 wrote:If there were magnets in basketballs so strong they changed the path of the ball as it flew through the air, wouldn't the ball then stick magnetically to the rim when it got there?
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Post#291 » by 1bigfan13 » Sat Dec 21, 2019 2:04 am

Don't know if you guys will remember this name or not but before OKC got their own team I was a Mavericks fan. Well, back in the early 2000's the Mavs had this role player named Marquise Daniels who had a very smooth, silky style of play. He was nothing special by any means but he was a solid player who could go off for 15-20 points on any given night.

SGA reminds me of slightly better version of M. Daniels. IMO, I think it's more likely that his career will play out like Daniels as I don't see him developing into a franchise player.
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Post#292 » by ThunderBolt » Sat Dec 21, 2019 2:46 am

1bigfan13 wrote:Don't know if you guys will remember this name or not but before OKC got their own team I was a Mavericks fan. Well, back in the early 2000's the Mavs had this role player named Marquise Daniels who had a very smooth, silky style of play. He was nothing special by any means but he was a solid player who could go off for 15-20 points on any given night.

SGA reminds me of slightly better version of M. Daniels. IMO, I think it's more likely that his career will play out like Daniels as I don't see him developing into a franchise player.

There is already a massive gap between Daniels and Shai.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/daniema01.html
bisme37 wrote:If there were magnets in basketballs so strong they changed the path of the ball as it flew through the air, wouldn't the ball then stick magnetically to the rim when it got there?
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Post#293 » by 1bigfan13 » Sat Dec 21, 2019 3:02 am

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1bigfan13 wrote:Don't know if you guys will remember this name or not but before OKC got their own team I was a Mavericks fan. Well, back in the early 2000's the Mavs had this role player named Marquise Daniels who had a very smooth, silky style of play. He was nothing special by any means but he was a solid player who could go off for 15-20 points on any given night.

SGA reminds me of slightly better version of M. Daniels. IMO, I think it's more likely that his career will play out like Daniels as I don't see him developing into a franchise player.

There is already a massive gap between Daniels and Shai.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/daniema01.html



I wouldn't call it a massive gap.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.fcgi?request=1&sum=1&player_id1_hint=Marquis+Daniels&player_id1_select=Marquis+Daniels&player_id1=daniema01&player_id2_hint=Shai+Gilgeous-Alexander&player_id2_select=Shai+Gilgeous-Alexander&player_id2=gilgesh01&idx=players

Shai is the better player and shooter....I can't argue that. I was mainly just pointing out the similarity in their playing styles.

I'm mainly just going by what I remember from Daniels during his run with the Mavs. I really didn't keep up with him once he went to Indy.
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Post#294 » by 1bigfan13 » Sat Dec 21, 2019 3:13 am

I know all these wins won't be good for us come June but I can never bring myself to root for the Thunder to lose these games.

I always find myself rooting for the team to win when I'm watching the games.

When they do happen to lose I'm happy as well. It's a weird time to be a Thunder fan.
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Post#295 » by ThunderBolt » Sat Dec 21, 2019 3:17 am

1bigfan13 wrote:I know all these wins won't be good for us come June but I can never bring myself to root for the Thunder to lose these games.

I always find myself rooting for the team to win when I'm watching the games.

When they do happen to lose I'm happy as well. It's a weird time to be a Thunder fan.

This draft looks like it might suck so I’m not as worried about a top pick as I was a month ago.
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Post#296 » by Galloisdaman » Sat Dec 21, 2019 1:58 pm

At 500 for the season. Is that the first time? Solidly in the 7th seed. Not too far from the 6th seed.
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Post#297 » by RunOKC » Sat Dec 21, 2019 5:11 pm

I guess we'll just have to see where the wind blows. The team is very fun to watch, and I don't know about everyone else but I personally am rooting for one last shot at the playoffs - while keeping our pick. Is the 6th seed the best scenario to accomplish both of those things?
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Post#298 » by alessandrux » Sat Dec 21, 2019 9:44 pm

RunOKC wrote:I guess we'll just have to see where the wind blows. The team is very fun to watch, and I don't know about everyone else but I personally am rooting for one last shot at the playoffs - while keeping our pick. Is the 6th seed the best scenario to accomplish both of those things?


I mean for the longterm future it would be great to have a good draft (pic) this year, but it would be incredibly hilarious (but very, very unliklely) to reach the second round.
I wouldn't mind the playoffs, but it would be helpful to avoid the L.A. teams (unless some injury happens; and i really hope it doesn't), they seem unbeatable for us (or to be more realistic, a competetive series).
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Post#299 » by jambalaya » Mon Dec 23, 2019 1:57 am

They play focused, hard and together. So props to all for that.
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Post#300 » by Galloisdaman » Mon Dec 23, 2019 4:05 pm

They are starting to believe in themselves. This is great!
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