Trades, Transactions and Ideas Thread

getrichordie · Post #301 » by **getrichordie** » Wed Oct 21, 2020 3:34 am

trade idea

thunder in

al horford
dwight powell
delon wright
zhaire smith
2020 OKC 1st (#21)
2020 NYK 2nd (#36)
2021 NYK 2nd
2023 ATL/CHA/BKN (most favorable)
2024 DAL 1st
2025 DAL 2nd (swap, OKC outgoing)

sixers in

chris paul
mike muscala
2020 DEN 1st (#25)
2020 OKC 2nd (#53)

mavs in

mike scott
dennis schroder

Post #302 » by **ThunderBolt** » Wed Oct 21, 2020 11:25 pm

getrichordie wrote:trade idea

thunder in

al horford
dwight powell
delon wright
zhaire smith
2020 OKC 1st (#21)
2020 NYK 2nd (#36)
2021 NYK 2nd
2023 ATL/CHA/BKN (most favorable)
2024 DAL 1st
2025 DAL 2nd (swap, OKC outgoing)

sixers in

chris paul
mike muscala
2020 DEN 1st (#25)
2020 OKC 2nd (#53)

mavs in

mike scott
dennis schroder

Just so someone to you I’ll responds I’ll say yes, I would do that. In general, large trades require too much work and research for me to have strong opinions.

cjmcallist · Post #303 » by **cjmcallist** » Thu Oct 22, 2020 1:21 pm

getrichordie wrote:trade idea

thunder in

al horford
dwight powell
delon wright
zhaire smith
2020 OKC 1st (#21)
2020 NYK 2nd (#36)
2021 NYK 2nd
2023 ATL/CHA/BKN (most favorable)
2024 DAL 1st
2025 DAL 2nd (swap, OKC outgoing)

sixers in

chris paul
mike muscala
2020 DEN 1st (#25)
2020 OKC 2nd (#53)

mavs in

mike scott
dennis schroder

I'd do that. I'm quickly becoming less and less adverse to taking on salary. As long as we get picks, I'm on board.

I am becoming more and more interested in short term picks though. With SGA on board, I'd like to get one more guy quickly.

Roddy B for 3 · 7/1/2019 (I broke a mirror on 7-1-2012)

If GSW were to offer their Minnesota draft pick + their trade exemption for Dort and Schroder would you OKC fans be willing to part with anything like #25, a future Clipper pick or anything to goose the trade?

jambalaya · Post #305 » by **jambalaya** » Sun Oct 25, 2020 7:50 pm

No enhancement.

Trade as is? I'd probably do it. Presti, probably not.

Probably about 50% chance it does not convey in 2021. So likely ends up being 50% chance of 4-6th pick in 2021 or 50% chance of perhaps 6-10 in 2022.

Balkman32 · Post #306 » by **Balkman32** » Mon Oct 26, 2020 6:42 pm

Roddy B for 3 wrote:If GSW were to offer their Minnesota draft pick + their trade exemption for Dort and Schroder would you OKC fans be willing to part with anything like #25, a future Clipper pick or anything to goose the trade?

OKC isn't trading Dort. I doubt they trade a future pick.

cjmcallist · Post #307 » by **cjmcallist** » Mon Nov 2, 2020 2:49 pm

Roddy B for 3 wrote:If GSW were to offer their Minnesota draft pick + their trade exemption for Dort and Schroder would you OKC fans be willing to part with anything like #25, a future Clipper pick or anything to goose the trade?

I'd say no. I would consider Schroeder + Dort for the Minnesota pick. But, I wouldn't want to add any sweeteners.

I feel like we're in a weird place because our young guys are more valuable to us than to other teams, right now.

getrichordie · Post #308 » by **getrichordie** » Mon Nov 2, 2020 3:51 pm

The only two players who should be off the table are Bazley and Gilgeous-Alexander. Period.

Post #309 » by **ThunderBolt** » Sun Nov 8, 2020 12:33 pm

Apparantly Zach Lowe said in his podcast that he sees Schroder worth a mid first round pick. Assuming that value is for this years draft, I'm not seeing many potential suitors. Phx, NO, Orl, Philly?

Alonzo_Morning · Post #310 » by **Alonzo_Morning** » Sun Nov 8, 2020 7:58 pm

ThunderBolt wrote:Apparantly Zach Lowe said in his podcast that he sees Schroder worth a mid first round pick. Assuming that value is for this years draft, I'm not seeing many potential suitors. Phx, NO, Orl, Philly?

Can't see any use for a fairly high usage guy who doesn't move the needle

He'd just be taking reps away from the guys who need them

Post #311 » by **ThunderBolt** » Mon Nov 9, 2020 1:24 pm

Alonzo_Morning wrote:
ThunderBolt wrote:Apparantly Zach Lowe said in his podcast that he sees Schroder worth a mid first round pick. Assuming that value is for this years draft, I'm not seeing many potential suitors. Phx, NO, Orl, Philly?

Can't see any use for a fairly high usage guy who doesn't move the needle

He'd just be taking reps away from the guys who need them

I think it really depends on which direction the front office goes. If I were a pelicans fan, I wouldn't trade want to trade for Schroder. I would tank for another year. From the outside looking in, there appear to be mixed signals about the direction the Pelicans want to go. Do they go for the playoffs or trade Jrue and roll with the young guys? If the front office wants to make a playoff push, Schroder is a needle mover for that. He was a very impactful player. He's not the ideal point guard that most teams won't but I'm not sure that guy is on the pelicans roster yet.

jambalaya · Post #312 » by **jambalaya** » Mon Nov 9, 2020 2:14 pm

I'd consider trading SGA, Bazley, Dort for right player. Who probably isn't on table unless they get right player who isn't on table either. Like in the deals for Oladipo and George.

Thunder have eventually traded or lost all their "stars". SGA and Bazley are probably not immune to those threats, now or later.

Post #313 » by **ThunderBolt** » Mon Nov 9, 2020 2:22 pm

Losing stars isn't always a bad thing.

jambalaya · Post #314 » by **jambalaya** » Mon Nov 9, 2020 2:32 pm

No, not always.

Thanks with the help with the unintended duplicate posts.

Post #315 » by **retrobro90** » Mon Nov 9, 2020 10:21 pm

Givony saying OKC is/was one of the teams to reach out to MIN about the #1 pick and mentioned Lamelo's name specifically as their target. I can see it considering they signed Liangelo to the Blue back in March. Ball isn't someone I'd trade multiple firsts or offer SGA for (as was suggested on the Lowe Post w Givony and Schmitz) but I can see how our FO would think otherwise. Also think MIN would be able to get a better offer from a team like Chicago

Post #316 » by **ThunderBolt** » Mon Nov 9, 2020 10:27 pm

retrobro90 wrote:Givony saying OKC is/was one of the teams to reach out to MIN about the #1 pick and mentioned Lamelo's name specifically as their target. I can see it considering they signed Liangelo to the Blue back in March. Ball isn't someone I'd trade multiple firsts or offer SGA for (as was suggested on the Lowe Post w Givony and Schmitz) but I can see how our FO would think otherwise. Also think MIN would be able to get a better offer from a team like Chicago

jambalaya · Post #317 » by **jambalaya** » Tue Nov 10, 2020 6:20 am

I like this thought better:

Trade for #1 (LaMelo) in order to make a bigger trade involving Paul (and / or Adams and Gallinari) with Knicks, Hornets, whoever. 2 team, 3, 4, whatever.

Lots of possibilities.

One example along the lines of what I like:

Bazley, Diallo, Ferguson, 25 and a future first for #1. Then #1, Paul and Gallinari sign n trade for Payton, Randle, Portis (waive), Gibson (waive) and Ellington (probably wave) and a future first or two. Then use cap space on new guys in a slow market to get paid in.

getrichordie · Post #318 » by **getrichordie** » Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:35 pm

I was talking to a Minnesota fan and when he heard OKC was possibly interested in trading up for Ball, he immediately thought Bazley. He said Bazley's stock has increased enough to the point where he has more value than what we think. Not sure I agree with that sentiment, but Bazley is definitely going out in a deal like that.

I wouldn't be so sure it is Ball we are trading up for, either. OKC has historically done a great job of not leaking things like this, right? Could be Wiseman, but Ball does make a ton of sense.

Post #319 » by **ThunderBolt** » Tue Nov 10, 2020 4:56 pm

If Sam passes on an opportunity to get Lamelo and he becomes a star, I’m not going to hold it against him. Lamelo has big question marks as a player and as a guy that would fit in okc.

Post #320 » by **ThunderBolt** » Wed Nov 11, 2020 2:21 am

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