2020-21 Around The NBA Thread

Post #301 » by **ThunderBolt** » Sat Feb 6, 2021 1:23 pm

Post #302 » by **Dadouv47** » Wed Feb 10, 2021 2:27 am

Rockets are really struggling when they miss Wood or Wall. Even when Wood comes back I expect John Wall to miss some games (or other players as well) so I guess the pick should be in the 8-12 range if houston don't get lucky. I'm fine with a #11 pick with 10% chances for Houston to get a top 4. Still a long way to go though

thedoppelganger · Post #303 » by **thedoppelganger** » Wed Feb 10, 2021 8:15 pm

Read on Twitter

Too bad he couldn't make it back for our games, but let's hope he can stay on the court and get them some wins

Post #304 » by **Dadouv47** » Fri Feb 12, 2021 2:40 am

Houston can't stay healthy. We better get lucky...

Houston top 4 would cost us 25% chances of being there as well and switch a top 6-10 pick to almost 20th if Miami is doing ok.

Post #305 » by **Dadouv47** » Sat Feb 13, 2021 2:15 am

We may get 5-45 record from now and still finish with a better record than Wolves, Wizards, Pistons. Boy they suck.

thedoppelganger · Post #306 » by **thedoppelganger** » Sun Feb 14, 2021 8:45 pm

Celtics really helping us out lately losing to the Pistons and Wizards. Presti needs to be on the phone with Ainge ASAP to try to offload some vets up there, can't believe they're .500.

Post #307 » by **Dadouv47** » Sun Feb 14, 2021 9:29 pm

If we trade George Hill soon enough, I think we have decent chances to finish with a bottom 3 record. Wizards are improving even if it's going to take some time for them to get more wins because they are playing way too many games this Month; Wolves may improve a bit with KAT/DLo. It's gonna be close with all those terrible Eastern teams...

Post #308 » by **Dadouv47** » Mon Feb 15, 2021 3:34 am

Dadouv47 wrote:If we trade George Hill soon enough, I think we have decent chances to finish with a bottom 3 record. Wizards are improving even if it's going to take some time for them to get more wins because they are playing way too many games this Month; Wolves may improve a bit with KAT/DLo. It's gonna be close with all those terrible Eastern teams...

Forget this post plz. Didn't age well.

thedoppelganger · Post #309 » by **thedoppelganger** » Mon Feb 15, 2021 3:54 pm

Read on Twitter

Surprised the Raptors are going after an empty stats guy like Drummond. Nothing regarding the Thunder in Shams article, did mention a bunch of teams are looking for frontcourt depth. Also mentioned that Roberson worked out for the Nets recently and was in contention for the spot that went to Shumpert eventually, hopefully he finds a team willing to give him a shot.

Post #310 » by **ThunderBolt** » Mon Feb 15, 2021 3:56 pm

thedoppelganger wrote:

Read on Twitter

Read on Twitter

Surprised the Raptors are going after an empty stats guy like Drummond. Nothing regarding the Thunder in Shams article, did mention a bunch of teams are looking for frontcourt depth. Also mentioned that Roberson worked out for the Nets recently and was in contention for the spot that went to Shumpert eventually, hopefully he finds a team willing to give him a shot.

The most surprising thing in the article was that shams mentioned Drummond was a two time all star. I totally forgot about that.

Post #311 » by **Dadouv47** » Mon Feb 15, 2021 3:58 pm

Can we sit Hill until March 25th too?

Well he isn't an expiring though

Post #312 » by **ThunderBolt** » Mon Feb 15, 2021 4:01 pm

Couple of other notes-

Atlanta has so far sought a high first-round, lottery-level pick if it is to move Collins, sources said.

Rival teams are continuing to monitor the growth of Trail Blazers guard Anfernee Simons. The young guard is playing behind All-NBA star Damian Lillard, but has shown flashes of scoring ability and playmaking in his career.

Post #313 » by **Dadouv47** » Mon Feb 15, 2021 4:05 pm

ThunderBolt wrote:Couple of other notes-

Atlanta has so far sought a high first-round, lottery-level pick if it is to move Collins, sources said.

Rival teams are continuing to monitor the growth of Trail Blazers guard Anfernee Simons. The young guard is playing behind All-NBA star Damian Lillard, but has shown flashes of scoring ability and playmaking in his career.

Hill and the Warriors 1st would be close to good value for Simons?

IF OKC decides to gamble on Collins, I wonder which pick we can trade. Our 2022 FRP may not convey and we aren't trading our 2021 pick...

Post #314 » by **ThunderBolt** » Mon Feb 15, 2021 4:25 pm

Dadouv47 wrote:
ThunderBolt wrote:Couple of other notes-

Atlanta has so far sought a high first-round, lottery-level pick if it is to move Collins, sources said.

Rival teams are continuing to monitor the growth of Trail Blazers guard Anfernee Simons. The young guard is playing behind All-NBA star Damian Lillard, but has shown flashes of scoring ability and playmaking in his career.

Hill and the Warriors 1st would be close to good value for Simons?

IF OKC decides to gamble on Collins, I wonder which pick we can trade. Our 2022 FRP may not convey and we aren't trading our 2021 pick...

I really doubt we trade for him. I wouldn't mind it but I think a team like Charlotte will step up.

thedoppelganger · Post #315 » by **thedoppelganger** » Mon Feb 15, 2021 4:28 pm

Dadouv47 wrote:
ThunderBolt wrote:Couple of other notes-

Atlanta has so far sought a high first-round, lottery-level pick if it is to move Collins, sources said.

Rival teams are continuing to monitor the growth of Trail Blazers guard Anfernee Simons. The young guard is playing behind All-NBA star Damian Lillard, but has shown flashes of scoring ability and playmaking in his career.

Hill and the Warriors 1st would be close to good value for Simons?

IF OKC decides to gamble on Collins, I wonder which pick we can trade. Our 2022 FRP may not convey and we aren't trading our 2021 pick...

Feels like the Blazers have been trying to pump up Simons trade value through Shams/Woj/Haynes every year, but he really hasn't seemed too special.

If we didn't want to trade any of our own firsts or the HOU/MIA swap this year, then the next highest value ones we could reasonably argue have lottery potential are the 24/26 Houston picks. Guess we could always lower the protections on our 2022 pick ATL already has? Maybe take it from top 14 protected to top 8. Do not want to do any of that for Collins, for the record.

Post #316 » by **ThunderBolt** » Mon Feb 15, 2021 4:32 pm

Gary Trent Jr is the guy I want.

Post #317 » by **Dadouv47** » Mon Feb 15, 2021 4:42 pm

thedoppelganger wrote:
Dadouv47 wrote:
ThunderBolt wrote:Couple of other notes-

Hill and the Warriors 1st would be close to good value for Simons?

IF OKC decides to gamble on Collins, I wonder which pick we can trade. Our 2022 FRP may not convey and we aren't trading our 2021 pick...

Feels like the Blazers have been trying to pump up Simons trade value through Shams/Woj/Haynes every year, but he really hasn't seemed too special.

If we didn't want to trade any of our own firsts or the HOU/MIA swap this year, then the next highest value ones we could reasonably argue have lottery potential are the 24/26 Houston picks. Guess we could always lower the protections on our 2022 pick ATL already has? Maybe take it from top 14 protected to top 8. Do not want to do any of that for Collins, for the record.

Doesn't make sense to trade any pick or swap from this year's draft. Houston pick may be really good or not convey, so we may need the Miami pick... and we never know what can happen in Miami (injuries) so it's not worth it.

I would only trade the 24/26 Houston picks for really good players.

Think if we make the 2022 FRP top 6 protected (and top 4? protected in 2023) we probably got a deal. But that's killing our flexibility and future for maxing SGA/Collins so it's quite terrible.

Collins on a team like Charlotte really makes more sense indeed (maybe even the Knicks)

Post #318 » by **ThunderBolt** » Mon Feb 15, 2021 5:03 pm

Spoiler:

We can always make an offer in free agency too. That's why it's silly to give up too much.

Post #319 » by **Dadouv47** » Mon Feb 15, 2021 5:10 pm

Yup agree. Also in FA we will know which players we drafted. Pretty big gap if we have Kuminga and and a top 10 prospect from the Rockets swap or a top 10 player and a 20 pick from Miami. In the first case it doesn't make any sense to overpay for Collins, but If the draft isn't good for us, it would be less terrible to gamble and give a max contract to Collins (still not really good)

Post #320 » by **ThunderBolt** » Mon Feb 15, 2021 5:27 pm

Dadouv47 wrote:Yup agree. Also in FA we will know which players we drafted. Pretty big gap if we have Kuminga and and a top 10 prospect from the Rockets swap or a top 10 player and a 20 pick from Miami. In the first case it doesn't make any sense to overpay for Collins, but If the draft isn't good for us, it would be less terrible to gamble and give a max contract to Collins (still not really good)

There is the thought that if we trade for Collins that we would be committed to him as part of our core for the next decade. We could trade him at a later time. He's not a guy that I see suddenly getting worse unless he has a major injury. Rookie scale max contracts aren't crippling like the supermax.