20-21 OKC Thunder Regular Season News
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Really hope Presti will trade whatever he can to go higher in this draft because SGA will be ready in 2 years (or less)
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Dadouv47 wrote:Yeah sucks to win but Shai with a career record and Dort game winner is nice.
First 5-10 games of the season I blamed SGA for not attacking the paint enough but now...he's on fire
Poeltl isn’t a big name but he’s a good rim protector too. I can’t believe the shots he makes sometimes. Anyone else in the league would be swatted.
bisme37 wrote:If there were magnets in basketballs so strong they changed the path of the ball as it flew through the air, wouldn't the ball then stick magnetically to the rim when it got there?
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ThunderBolt wrote:Dadouv47 wrote:Yeah sucks to win but Shai with a career record and Dort game winner is nice.
First 5-10 games of the season I blamed SGA for not attacking the paint enough but now...he's on fire
Poeltl isn’t a big name but he’s a good rim protector too. I can’t believe the shots he makes sometimes. Anyone else in the league would be swatted.
yeah if SGA keeps shooting around 40% from three, he will be unstoppable
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sga's FTr keeps rising. he's now 6th (!) in FTr among players with 25% usage or higher. embiid, giannis, t. young, butler and zion are the only ones ahead. he has a higher FTr than james harden or kevin durant. or luka! which is impressive considering how many threes he's taking (.300+ 3PAr).
here's a list of nba players with seasons .430+ FTr, .300+ 3PAr and 40%+ 3PT: c. billups (4), reggie miller (1), paul pierce (1), kevin martin (1), manu ginobili (1).
only ginobili and martin seasons had usage in sga's orbit this season. and sga is creating almost all of his own offense! 8.1% of sga's 2pt makes are assisted- that's lower than luka, dame, harden... it's the lowest of any high usage scorer this season. he's also assisted on only 30% of his 3pt makes. this split is reminiscent of peak 2017 and 2018 james harden, the nba's isolation king. that shai is able to score as efficiently as he is above, while creating so much of his own offense is unbelievable.
it's foul drawing and 3pt shooting that's allowing him to do that. while shai's FTr has steadily gone up every season, his pull-up three point shooting has been bonkers relative to his first two years. he's shooting over 40% on pull-up threes, ~4 attempts per game. that's buddy hield / kyrie irving / kyle lowry territory. this is up from 31% on 2.3 attempts per game last season. the pull-up / step-back three is one of the few specific things that shai has said he was working on. last year prior to the bubble he was putting work into it, but after toying around the first few bubble games he quit taking them. the shot even looked busted early this season. now he's ripping cord. is the improvement real? i'm a lot more confident in his improved FTr which has progressed steadily to elite status, and less confident he's all of a sudden an elite pull-up three point shooter.
if he is, then the thunder struck gold.
here's a list of nba players with seasons .430+ FTr, .300+ 3PAr and 40%+ 3PT: c. billups (4), reggie miller (1), paul pierce (1), kevin martin (1), manu ginobili (1).
only ginobili and martin seasons had usage in sga's orbit this season. and sga is creating almost all of his own offense! 8.1% of sga's 2pt makes are assisted- that's lower than luka, dame, harden... it's the lowest of any high usage scorer this season. he's also assisted on only 30% of his 3pt makes. this split is reminiscent of peak 2017 and 2018 james harden, the nba's isolation king. that shai is able to score as efficiently as he is above, while creating so much of his own offense is unbelievable.
it's foul drawing and 3pt shooting that's allowing him to do that. while shai's FTr has steadily gone up every season, his pull-up three point shooting has been bonkers relative to his first two years. he's shooting over 40% on pull-up threes, ~4 attempts per game. that's buddy hield / kyrie irving / kyle lowry territory. this is up from 31% on 2.3 attempts per game last season. the pull-up / step-back three is one of the few specific things that shai has said he was working on. last year prior to the bubble he was putting work into it, but after toying around the first few bubble games he quit taking them. the shot even looked busted early this season. now he's ripping cord. is the improvement real? i'm a lot more confident in his improved FTr which has progressed steadily to elite status, and less confident he's all of a sudden an elite pull-up three point shooter.
if he is, then the thunder struck gold.
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SGA came in at #6 in Vecenie's young player ranking, ahead of Fox, Ja, Lamelo, Trae, and behind Mitchell, Bam, Zion, Tatum, and Doncic.
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SGA came in at #6 in Vecenie's young player ranking, ahead of Fox, Ja, Lamelo, Trae, and behind Mitchell, Bam, Zion, Tatum, and Doncic.
That’s pretty fair and nice to see shai getting the deserved recognition. I think he’ll surpass Mitchell. Lamelo has a case for being higher but he needs more time. I love Ja but his shooting has been bad. I’m not a fan of Trae. He seems like a player that will be exposed in the playoffs.
bisme37 wrote:If there were magnets in basketballs so strong they changed the path of the ball as it flew through the air, wouldn't the ball then stick magnetically to the rim when it got there?
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ThunderBolt wrote:thedoppelganger wrote:
SGA came in at #6 in Vecenie's young player ranking, ahead of Fox, Ja, Lamelo, Trae, and behind Mitchell, Bam, Zion, Tatum, and Doncic.
That’s pretty fair and nice to see shai getting the deserved recognition. I think he’ll surpass Mitchell. Lamelo has a case for being higher but he needs more time. I love Ja but his shooting has been bad. I’m not a fan of Trae. He seems like a player that will be exposed in the playoffs.
Agree that it's a pretty fair ranking. I don't think he will surpass Mitchell though but maybe that's because I'm really high on him as well. Guess Lamelo/Trae ceilings are higher than SGA (not sure) but SGA will likely be the better player.
Give me a SGA/Kuminga or SGA/Cade duo next season and the SGA hype will be sky high around casual NBA fans
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Dadouv47 wrote:ThunderBolt wrote:thedoppelganger wrote:
SGA came in at #6 in Vecenie's young player ranking, ahead of Fox, Ja, Lamelo, Trae, and behind Mitchell, Bam, Zion, Tatum, and Doncic.
That’s pretty fair and nice to see shai getting the deserved recognition. I think he’ll surpass Mitchell. Lamelo has a case for being higher but he needs more time. I love Ja but his shooting has been bad. I’m not a fan of Trae. He seems like a player that will be exposed in the playoffs.
Agree that it's a pretty fair ranking. I don't think he will surpass Mitchell though but maybe that's because I'm really high on him as well. Guess Lamelo/Trae ceilings are higher than SGA (not sure) but SGA will likely be the better player.
Give me a SGA/Kuminga or SGA/Cade duo next season and the SGA hype will be sky high around casual NBA fans
I think shai fits well with all of the top five guys. That’s what so great about him. Suggs and Shai could be a great pairing. Suggs has already proven he can play alongside other elite guys and help facilitate. I’m also staying on Mobley island even if by myself.
bisme37 wrote:If there were magnets in basketballs so strong they changed the path of the ball as it flew through the air, wouldn't the ball then stick magnetically to the rim when it got there?
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ThunderBolt wrote:Dadouv47 wrote:ThunderBolt wrote:That’s pretty fair and nice to see shai getting the deserved recognition. I think he’ll surpass Mitchell. Lamelo has a case for being higher but he needs more time. I love Ja but his shooting has been bad. I’m not a fan of Trae. He seems like a player that will be exposed in the playoffs.
Agree that it's a pretty fair ranking. I don't think he will surpass Mitchell though but maybe that's because I'm really high on him as well. Guess Lamelo/Trae ceilings are higher than SGA (not sure) but SGA will likely be the better player.
Give me a SGA/Kuminga or SGA/Cade duo next season and the SGA hype will be sky high around casual NBA fans
I think shai fits well with all of the top five guys. That’s what so great about him. Suggs and Shai could be a great pairing. Suggs has already proven he can play alongside other elite guys and help facilitate. I’m also staying on Mobley island even if by myself.
the bad about SGA is that he's making it more difficult to get any of those guys
But I agree with you. Give me any of those 5 and I will be happy.
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Any updates on George Hill? Saw him for the first time yesterday...Hope he isn't coming back 
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bisme37 wrote:If there were magnets in basketballs so strong they changed the path of the ball as it flew through the air, wouldn't the ball then stick magnetically to the rim when it got there?
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thedoppelganger wrote:
If I had to guess it’s mostly precautionary like shai’s knee. I didn’t see him injure it on a specific play last night.
bisme37 wrote:If there were magnets in basketballs so strong they changed the path of the ball as it flew through the air, wouldn't the ball then stick magnetically to the rim when it got there?
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ThunderBolt wrote:Dadouv47 wrote:ThunderBolt wrote:That’s pretty fair and nice to see shai getting the deserved recognition. I think he’ll surpass Mitchell. Lamelo has a case for being higher but he needs more time. I love Ja but his shooting has been bad. I’m not a fan of Trae. He seems like a player that will be exposed in the playoffs.
Agree that it's a pretty fair ranking. I don't think he will surpass Mitchell though but maybe that's because I'm really high on him as well. Guess Lamelo/Trae ceilings are higher than SGA (not sure) but SGA will likely be the better player.
Give me a SGA/Kuminga or SGA/Cade duo next season and the SGA hype will be sky high around casual NBA fans
I think shai fits well with all of the top five guys. That’s what so great about him. Suggs and Shai could be a great pairing. Suggs has already proven he can play alongside other elite guys and help facilitate. I’m also staying on Mobley island even if by myself.
I'm talking myself into Mobley and I hate me for it.
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
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spearsy23 wrote:ThunderBolt wrote:Dadouv47 wrote:
Agree that it's a pretty fair ranking. I don't think he will surpass Mitchell though but maybe that's because I'm really high on him as well. Guess Lamelo/Trae ceilings are higher than SGA (not sure) but SGA will likely be the better player.
Give me a SGA/Kuminga or SGA/Cade duo next season and the SGA hype will be sky high around casual NBA fans
I think shai fits well with all of the top five guys. That’s what so great about him. Suggs and Shai could be a great pairing. Suggs has already proven he can play alongside other elite guys and help facilitate. I’m also staying on Mobley island even if by myself.
I'm talking myself into Mobley and I hate me for it.
I’ve watched more of his games than any of the other guys. Besides Cade, I think he’s the safest option from among the other top guys. I don’t know if he’ll be a superstar but it’s hard to see him not being a very, very good player at worst.
bisme37 wrote:If there were magnets in basketballs so strong they changed the path of the ball as it flew through the air, wouldn't the ball then stick magnetically to the rim when it got there?
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Yeah Mobley is clearly the safest bet after Cade. I'm still on Kuminga as second pick though (Mobley probably 3rd)
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Glad that Ty Jerome will finally play with the Thunder.
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Dadouv47 wrote:Glad that Ty Jerome will finally play with the Thunder.
I don’t have high expectations but I was wrong about Roby.
bisme37 wrote:If there were magnets in basketballs so strong they changed the path of the ball as it flew through the air, wouldn't the ball then stick magnetically to the rim when it got there?
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bisme37 wrote:If there were magnets in basketballs so strong they changed the path of the ball as it flew through the air, wouldn't the ball then stick magnetically to the rim when it got there?
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More sense to do this against the Cavs some days ago...but yeah pretty nice.
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