Let's Make a Deal: Thunder Trade Targets

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Re: Let's Make a Deal: Thunder Trade Targets 

Post#3021 » by AirInTheLoop » Mon Oct 15, 2018 12:41 am

getrichordie wrote:
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Ariza? Woof.


Would PHX rather have Ariza or Schroder?


Why they signed Ariza in the first place is a big mystery.
Realistically they shouldnt want either of the above mentioned players.

That said, we cant get rid of Schroder. He is way too valuable to OKC right now. This is not simply a role player for the franchise, he is a guy who can step in when Westbrook is off the floor, and keep that same tempo and offense going. This is why Noel is vital as well.
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Re: Let's Make a Deal: Thunder Trade Targets 

Post#3022 » by Kizz Fastfists » Mon Oct 15, 2018 2:28 am

Knrstz wrote:Remember when you said presti should be fired because he traded for Paul George who would leave at the end of the season? Remember when you never came back and said you were wrong?

You may be right about diallo. You might be wrong. If you are wrong, what should we expect? I have a pretty good guess.



Presti should be fired. Just keep Donovan should have gotten him fired. PG resigning doesn't change that. Presti has built a team with a ceiling of a first round exit, note that team does not mean roster but also includes the incompetent coaching, in the name of "sustainability". Being mediocre isn't an accomplishment to be bragging about. Presti traded an equal player and a quality prospect for PG. It would be like Ainge calling up and offering Hayward and Tatum for PG. Ainge should get fired if he does something like that. However, Presti did it when he had no reason to be going all-in for no gain. He had the opportunity to rebuild and try to build something championship quality instead of signing OKC up for purgatory. He then followed it up by adding Melo.

I have Diallo's ceiling as Iguodala. Iggy, like Diallo, couldn't shoot in high school or college, but had solid ball handling skills, length and defense. Iggy stayed in college longer to develop, which is what Diallo should have done. I also have it at about a 1% chance Dillo reaches that ceiling. It is more likely that Diallo makes an all-star game, Iguodala made one, than Donovan coaches competently.
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Re: Let's Make a Deal: Thunder Trade Targets 

Post#3023 » by ThunderBolt » Mon Oct 15, 2018 2:42 am

Kizz Fastfists wrote:
Knrstz wrote:Remember when you said presti should be fired because he traded for Paul George who would leave at the end of the season? Remember when you never came back and said you were wrong?

You may be right about diallo. You might be wrong. If you are wrong, what should we expect? I have a pretty good guess.



Presti should be fired. Just keep Donovan should have gotten him fired. PG resigning doesn't change that. Presti has built a team with a ceiling of a first round exit, note that team does not mean roster but also includes the incompetent coaching, in the name of "sustainability". Being mediocre isn't an accomplishment to be bragging about. Presti traded an equal player and a quality prospect for PG. It would be like Ainge calling up and offering Hayward and Tatum for PG. Ainge should get fired if he does something like that. However, Presti did it when he had no reason to be going all-in for no gain. He had the opportunity to rebuild and try to build something championship quality instead of signing OKC up for purgatory. He then followed it up by adding Melo.

I have Diallo's ceiling as Iguodala. Iggy, like Diallo, couldn't shoot in high school or college, but had solid ball handling skills, length and defense. Iggy stayed in college longer to develop, which is what Diallo should have done. I also have it at about a 1% chance Dillo reaches that ceiling. It is more likely that Diallo makes an all-star game, Iguodala made one, than Donovan coaches competently.


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Re: Let's Make a Deal: Thunder Trade Targets 

Post#3024 » by bondom34 » Mon Oct 15, 2018 3:11 am

Ever since the 16 offseason it's been a weird downward spiral for him.
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Re: Let's Make a Deal: Thunder Trade Targets 

Post#3025 » by spearsy23 » Mon Oct 15, 2018 6:35 am

bondom34 wrote:
getrichordie wrote:
spearsy23 wrote:Ariza? Woof.


Would PHX rather have Ariza or Schroder?

Given contracts Ariza.

I'd be willing to bet schroder has a better season than Ariza, and unquestionably a better rest of his career.
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Re: Let's Make a Deal: Thunder Trade Targets 

Post#3026 » by bondom34 » Mon Oct 15, 2018 6:39 am

spearsy23 wrote:
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Would PHX rather have Ariza or Schroder?

Given contracts Ariza.

I'd be willing to bet schroder has a better season than Ariza, and unquestionably a better rest of his career.

I actually could see it, but I think Schroder still is best as a backup and the Suns want more. Also kinda think Ariza may look worse because the team he's on is bad.
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