Thunder Offseason Thread

Post #3041 » by **Dadouv47** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:39 pm

oreojenkins wrote:Yep. Piecing it all together seems like the trade will be:

OKC: Winslow, Dragic
MIA: Westbrook
DAL: Olynyk (or Cleveland here with JR going to Miami)

Maybe we can get their last 1st out of it.

Don't think we will get a first AND Winslow. It will be one or the other (hope I'm wrong)

Post #3042 » by **ThunderBolt** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:40 pm

oreojenkins wrote:Yep. Piecing it all together seems like the trade will be:

OKC: Winslow, Dragic
MIA: Westbrook
DAL: Olynyk (or Cleveland here with JR going to Miami)

Maybe we can get their last 1st out of it.

Even if that's all we get, this deal will keep giving for years when you look at the cost and impact of Russ' contract.

Post #3043 » by **Dadouv47** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:41 pm

retrobro90 wrote:It feels like torture knowing the silence on the subject could potentially go on all summer.

Yeah I preferred waking up and be surprised that PG13 was gone, our ''era'' was over but we got 5 first picks + a very good prospect

Old Man Game · Post #3044 » by **Old Man Game** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:10 pm

ThunderBolt wrote:
oreojenkins wrote:Yep. Piecing it all together seems like the trade will be:

OKC: Winslow, Dragic
MIA: Westbrook
DAL: Olynyk (or Cleveland here with JR going to Miami)

Maybe we can get their last 1st out of it.

Even if that's all we get, this deal will keep giving for years when you look at the cost and impact of Russ' contract.

That's what I think too. We gotta be sober in our assessment of Westbrook's value at his age with that contact.

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kdthunderup · Post #3045 » by **kdthunderup** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 12:23 am

I'm hoping Presti is leveraging the fact that we own their 2021 pick and sending them a win now player considerably weakens that asset. We would at least want Herro and Bam or Winslow for us to get reasonable value back.

Thunder Up · Post #3046 » by **Thunder Up** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 1:36 am

Presti is gonna shock the world when he acquires Blake Griffin and keeps Russ

thor19 · Post #3047 » by **thor19** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 1:40 am

Thunder Up wrote:Presti is gonna shock the world when he acquires Blake Griffin and keeps Russ

I have mixed feeling about this !!

Imagine if the sixer trade for westbrook and give us ben simmons. A pg that shoot bad for a pg that is afraid of shooting
Just imagine westbrook playing with joel hahah

Post #3048 » by **retrobro90** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 1:43 am

Thunder Up wrote:Presti is gonna shock the world when he acquires Blake Griffin and keeps Russ

God I hope not. This is my doomsday scenario. Awful fit in Blake (whom I like, individually) especially with the rest of the guys not including Russ. If they do that AND duck the tax I wouldn't be surprised if they missed the western playoffs entirely. Coupled with the fact that they'd lose whatever assets it took to get Blake. If they somehow chose to keep Russ then Gallo is a much better fit and he's already on the damn roster.

Post #3049 » by **Dadouv47** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:51 am

We already know more or less on what consist the deal. Won't be any surprise. Just hope we get Winslow but that's best case scenario.
They are probably trying to work on salaries to make it work (maybe add a 3rd team) and maybe trying to switch something about our future next picks (because we are getting screwed for our 2021 pick by improving Miami)

spearsy23 · Post #3050 » by **spearsy23** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 11:20 am

retrobro90 wrote:
Thunder Up wrote:Presti is gonna shock the world when he acquires Blake Griffin and keeps Russ

God I hope not. This is my doomsday scenario. Awful fit in Blake (whom I like, individually) especially with the rest of the guys not including Russ. If they do that AND duck the tax I wouldn't be surprised if they missed the western playoffs entirely. Coupled with the fact that they'd lose whatever assets it took to get Blake. If they somehow chose to keep Russ then Gallo is a much better fit and he's already on the damn roster.

Ignoring everything else, Blake would be a terrific fit next to Westbrook. He stretches the floor and gives you an excellent passer on the short roll. One reason I'd like to see Russ in Detroit. It would be impossible to defend Russ/Blake with Drummond in the dunker spot, and shooters on the wings.

Post #3051 » by **ThunderBolt** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 11:32 am

Do we know anything about Detroit’s level of interest? Doing right by Russ is all well and good but if we can’t pass up a significantly better offer if it’s there, in my opinion.

Balkman32 · Post #3052 » by **Balkman32** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 11:57 am

thor19 wrote:Its Winslow any good or we dont get him either, Wedtbrook should have other destination , I prefer frank, and mitchell robinson from knicks, okogie from minnesota , kennard from piston even issac and fultz

I like the Knicks picks...

Fultz is interesting because he has no value in the league right now and he is getting $20 million over the next two years. That my firends is a negative asset. It's so weird that they stretched Mozgov...

Balkman32 · Post #3053 » by **Balkman32** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 11:59 am

ThunderBolt wrote:Do we know anything about Detroit’s level of interest? Doing right by Russ is all well and good but if we can’t pass up a significantly better offer if it’s there, in my opinion.

This is one of the spots that makes some sense. Pair him with Drummond, Blake, and Rose. Plus, two Detroit FRP's sound really good.

Post #3054 » by **ThunderBolt** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 12:03 pm

Balkman32 wrote:
ThunderBolt wrote:Do we know anything about Detroit’s level of interest? Doing right by Russ is all well and good but if we can’t pass up a significantly better offer if it’s there, in my opinion.

This is one of the spots that makes some sense. Pair him with Drummond, Blake, and Rose. Plus, two Detroit FRP's sound really good.

The little I know about sekou is that he seems like a very raw but high ceiling player that I think Presti would covet.

Post #3055 » by **slick_watts** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 12:14 pm

there is a reason to do right by westbrook that isn't simply altruistic- he and shai gilgeous-alexander share the same agent. it's not like thad foucher has a ton of clients either.

Balkman32 · Post #3056 » by **Balkman32** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 12:15 pm

Thunder Up wrote:Presti is gonna shock the world when he acquires Blake Griffin and keeps Russ

No he ain't. This will be a 2 year re-set. Get under the tax, acquire future assets. Has anyone seen the 2021 FA class? Whoa. Now some of these guys will be restricted the year before and most likely sign deals before this period. But, being flexible is important.

Might be a good Idea to have two max slots available, its doubtful they come, but I would be damed if they wanted to come here and we wasted money elsewhere. With all of that said I want guys who were drafted in 18, 19, future FRP's and SRP's in the double draft year.

Potential 2021 NBA Free Agents
LeBron James, Los Angeles Lakers*
Kawhi Leonard, Los Angeles Clippers*
Giannis Antetokounmpo, Milwaukee Bucks
Paul George, Los Angeles Clippers*
Bradley Beal, Washington Wizards
Victor Oladipo, Indiana Pacers
Jrue Holiday, New Orleans Pelicans*
Rudy Gobert, Utah Jazz
Gordon Hayward, Boston Celtics
Mike Conley, Utah Jazz
DeMar DeRozan, San Antonio Spurs
CJ McCollum, Portland Trail Blazers
Julius Randle, New York Knicks**
Jayson Tatum, Boston Celtics
Lonzo Ball, New Orleans Pelicans
De'Aaron Fox, Sacramento Kings
Lauri Markkanen, Chicago Bulls
Donovan Mitchell, Utah Jazz
OG Anunoby, Toronto Raptors
Kyle Kuzma, Los Angeles Lakers
Steven Adams, Oklahoma City Thunder

Indicates restricted free agent
*Indicates 2021-22 player option
**Indicates 2021-22 team option

Post #3057 » by **ThunderBolt** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 12:16 pm

slick_watts wrote:there is a reason to do right by westbrook that isn't simply altruistic- he and shai gilgeous-alexander share the same agent. it's not like thad foucher has a ton of clients either.

That’s interesting and definitely worth considering.

Post #3058 » by **slick_watts** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 12:16 pm

ThunderBolt wrote:Do we know anything about Detroit’s level of interest? Doing right by Russ is all well and good but if we can’t pass up a significantly better offer if it’s there, in my opinion.

one of their beat reporters said their contact with a source indicates no interest whatsoever. i honestly think that miami is the only team with any serious interest.

Balkman32 · Post #3059 » by **Balkman32** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 12:16 pm

slick_watts wrote:there is a reason to do right by westbrook that isn't simply altruistic- he and shai gilgeous-alexander share the same agent. it's not like thad foucher has a ton of clients either.

But, the Thunder have to do whats best for SGA and their team. SGA wont be unrestricted for another 7 years. This will be water under the bridge.

Balkman32 · Post #3060 » by **Balkman32** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 12:32 pm

slick_watts wrote:
ThunderBolt wrote:Do we know anything about Detroit’s level of interest? Doing right by Russ is all well and good but if we can’t pass up a significantly better offer if it’s there, in my opinion.

one of their beat reporters said their contact with a source indicates no interest whatsoever. i honestly think that miami is the only team with any serious interest.

I find this very interesting. How is Detroit going to get better? They already played their hand getting Blake.

I wonder if some teams would value Schroder more? He should be dealt as well. They need to hand the keys to Gilgeous-Alexander and I don't think Schroder is helpful on this roster.