2017 OKC Thunder Trade Discussion

Post #321 » by **bondom34** » Tue Feb 7, 2017 4:24 am

spearsy23 wrote:Hell, take on Evan turner's contract and play him at point for all I care.

Too far

Pillendreher · Post #322 » by **Pillendreher** » Tue Feb 7, 2017 11:08 am

Knrstz wrote:
Osirus89 wrote:
Knrstz wrote:People need to understand if we want to build around Russ, major changes need to happen. Guys like Adams, Sabonis , Abrines and oladipo need to go. Other guys like Payne and singler have no value. The more I watch this team the more I think it might be impossible to get much better.

Abrines is fine. Morrow will be a free agent next year. You can't lose both sharpshooters. Sabonis might need to play with the bench. Adams is fine. Oladipo "can" be traded, but only if the return is good. Payne is bad and so is singler. You can get better by not having them play at all and bringing in a cheap veteran point guard. Jameer Nelson would look like a god on this team with paynes recent play. Kanter should be shown the door, but can't because of his own stupidity.

I will say this.... I think things are going to get very interesting soon in the NBA. Lebron and Chris Paul seem to be going full sail to get Melo. Jimmy butler may be traded as well. There will be opportunities to be a third or fourth team in a deal very soon in all likelihood. The front office just needs to keep their ears open and wait for an opening. I think one will present itself very soon. If one does arrive, I think very few players should be exempt from consideration. Russ , Adams, maybe Victor, maybe Domantas, and that's about it.

This team is much more than a backup pg away. Everyone wants the get better but posts like this prove why it won't happen. Add someone and keep everyone we like. That ain't happening. I'll eat crow if I'm wrong. I love Sabonis but even he should not be exempt. Russ is in the back half of his prime now. Maybe Oladipo exempt?? The guy is trash. As was said in the game thread tonight, if he had 100 open layups, he would miss 150. Read the posts by Kizz. Everyone wants to get better,( me included) but options are limited. You want Wilson Chandler? How do you plan on getting him? Cameron Payne? Try again. They'll want Sabonis. It sucks but it's the truth. We keep what we have or we do a complete rebuild with Russ that may or may not make us better. Nelson, Chandler, Crawford and other guys might allow us to get swept by San Antonio rather than Golden State.

The first thing we have to adress is shooting and then take it from there. We can't have Russ as the only guy that makes 2-3 3s a game.

If we had somebody like Matthews out there, it would help immensely.

Osirus89 · Post #323 » by **Osirus89** » Tue Feb 7, 2017 2:11 pm

Read on Twitter

And it begins....
This was a reply to another tweet regarding Okc player interest.

Big fan of getting Wilson Chandler. The other two ... Idk about that.

Pillendreher · Post #324 » by **Pillendreher** » Tue Feb 7, 2017 2:21 pm

Osirus89 wrote:

Read on Twitter

And it begins....
This was a reply to another tweet regarding Okc player interest.

Big fan of getting Wilson Chandler. The other two ... Idk about that.

Amico doesn't know what he's talking about.

Pillendreher · Post #325 » by **Pillendreher** » Tue Feb 7, 2017 5:26 pm

Let's sneak in there and get Love in a Melo trade.

Osirus89 · Post #326 » by **Osirus89** » Tue Feb 7, 2017 8:23 pm

Pillendreher wrote:
Osirus89 wrote:

Read on Twitter

And it begins....
This was a reply to another tweet regarding Okc player interest.

Big fan of getting Wilson Chandler. The other two ... Idk about that.

Amico doesn't know what he's talking about.

Aw cmon.. let me have this. :lol:

Post #327 » by **bondom34** » Wed Feb 8, 2017 8:51 pm

Totally random thought but I'd kinda like LMA.

Post #328 » by **ThunderBolt** » Wed Feb 8, 2017 10:18 pm

bondom34 wrote:Totally random thought but I'd kinda like LMA.

Lemarcus aldridge?

Post #329 » by **bondom34** » Wed Feb 8, 2017 10:23 pm

Knrstz wrote:
bondom34 wrote:Totally random thought but I'd kinda like LMA.

Lemarcus aldridge?

Yeah. Some Spurs fans aren't thrilled with him from reading. Wondering what they'd want though.

Post #330 » by **ThunderBolt** » Wed Feb 8, 2017 11:58 pm

bondom34 wrote:
Knrstz wrote:
bondom34 wrote:Totally random thought but I'd kinda like LMA.

Lemarcus aldridge?

Yeah. Some Spurs fans aren't thrilled with him from reading. Wondering what they'd want though.

He has been a bit of an offensive disappointment. Idk if it's because of the spurs system or what. He's kind of a passive aggressive malcontent, imo. He wasn't happy in Portland. If he would have stayed, they could have been a great team, imo. Then his comments at the beginning of the year make it seem he isn't happy in San Antonio. I would gladly take him though. I'm sure the Spurs would definitely want Sabonis along with Abrines and more.

Post #331 » by **ThunderBolt** » Thu Feb 9, 2017 12:17 am

More Reports are that butler is available. What would we have to give up for him? If it were possible to get him, I think Abrines is a guy we would prefer to hold on to because we would desperately need three point shooting. I don't know if we still have to move two guys to clear up space for him or not. He has a relatively affordable contract.

Osirus89 · Post #332 » by **Osirus89** » Thu Feb 9, 2017 1:02 am

Knrstz wrote:More Reports are that butler is available. What would we have to give up for him? If it were possible to get him, I think Abrines is a guy we would prefer to hold on to because we would desperately need three point shooting. I don't know if we still have to move two guys to clear up space for him or not. He has a relatively affordable contract.

If Jimmy Butler were available , nobody should be spared from consideration except russell. Domas, abrines, the whole lot of them can be shipped off in a hot minute. Unlikely though with kanter out since he has the contract that is the easiest to match in the deal. Boston can also blow any offer we give out of the water as well unfortunately.

Post #333 » by **ThunderBolt** » Thu Feb 9, 2017 1:13 am

Osirus89 wrote:
Knrstz wrote:More Reports are that butler is available. What would we have to give up for him? If it were possible to get him, I think Abrines is a guy we would prefer to hold on to because we would desperately need three point shooting. I don't know if we still have to move two guys to clear up space for him or not. He has a relatively affordable contract.

If Jimmy Butler were available , nobody should be spared from consideration except russell. Domas, abrines, the whole lot of them can be shipped off in a hot minute. Unlikely though with kanter out since he has the contract that is the easiest to match in the deal. Boston can also blow any offer we give out of the water as well unfortunately.

I agree about Boston but they've apparently been hesitant to give up too much for Butler. That's what rumors have said.

Post #334 » by **bondom34** » Thu Feb 9, 2017 1:51 am

Knrstz wrote:
bondom34 wrote:
Knrstz wrote:
Lemarcus aldridge?

Yeah. Some Spurs fans aren't thrilled with him from reading. Wondering what they'd want though.

He has been a bit of an offensive disappointment. Idk if it's because of the spurs system or what. He's kind of a passive aggressive malcontent, imo. He wasn't happy in Portland. If he would have stayed, they could have been a great team, imo. Then his comments at the beginning of the year make it seem he isn't happy in San Antonio. I would gladly take him though. I'm sure the Spurs would definitely want Sabonis along with Abrines and more.

Yeah was thinking Sabonis and Kanter to a 3rd team who sends value to the Spurs

Kizz Fastfists · Post #335 » by **Kizz Fastfists** » Thu Feb 9, 2017 4:48 am

Osirus89 wrote:If Jimmy Butler were available , nobody should be spared from consideration except russell. Domas, abrines, the whole lot of them can be shipped off in a hot minute. Unlikely though with kanter out since he has the contract that is the easiest to match in the deal. Boston can also blow any offer we give out of the water as well unfortunately.

Dipo, Sabonis and Abrines for Butler and Mirotic work since Mirotic's salary can be absorbed by the Illyasova TPE. I'm not sure how Chicago would like it, but I think that is about as good as they can hope for unless Philly or Boston decide to unload for him. Ainge really doesn't seem like he's willing to move his assets to commit and I don't think Philly sees themselves as being ready to make that type of move yet.

spearsy23 · Post #336 » by **spearsy23** » Thu Feb 9, 2017 5:06 am

Kizz Fastfists wrote:
Osirus89 wrote:If Jimmy Butler were available , nobody should be spared from consideration except russell. Domas, abrines, the whole lot of them can be shipped off in a hot minute. Unlikely though with kanter out since he has the contract that is the easiest to match in the deal. Boston can also blow any offer we give out of the water as well unfortunately.

Dipo, Sabonis and Abrines for Butler and Mirotic work since Mirotic's salary can be absorbed by the Illyasova TPE. I'm not sure how Chicago would like it, but I think that is about as good as they can hope for unless Philly or Boston decide to unload for him. Ainge really doesn't seem like he's willing to move his assets to commit and I don't think Philly sees themselves as being ready to make that type of move yet.

One Brooklyn pick is worth more than that whole package.

We should probably face the reality that we don't have good enough assets to bring in any player of that caliber.

Post #337 » by **bondom34** » Thu Feb 9, 2017 7:39 am

Yeah that's why I thought LMA might be interesting. Still a massive upgrade, but way cheaper via trade most likely.

Pillendreher · Post #338 » by **Pillendreher** » Thu Feb 9, 2017 8:31 am

Doesn't hurt to try.

spearsy23 · Post #339 » by **spearsy23** » Thu Feb 9, 2017 9:05 am

bondom34 wrote:Yeah that's why I thought LMA might be interesting. Still a massive upgrade, but way cheaper via trade most likely.

Spurs would want win now pieces though. Frankly I don't believe LMA is actually that good, so giving up dipo + bench filler may actually leave us in a worse spot. If we could get him for enes + cam + domas then okay, otherwise I just don't think he helps.

Post #340 » by **bondom34** » Thu Feb 9, 2017 9:41 am

spearsy23 wrote:
bondom34 wrote:Yeah that's why I thought LMA might be interesting. Still a massive upgrade, but way cheaper via trade most likely.

Spurs would want win now pieces though. Frankly I don't believe LMA is actually that good, so giving up dipo + bench filler may actually leave us in a worse spot. If we could get him for enes + cam + domas then okay, otherwise I just don't think he helps.

That's the package I was trying. Domas to SAS, Kanter to a 3rd team, 3rd team sends something to SAS. But no idea what.