2018-2019 OKC Thunder Regular Season Pt 1: A Renewed Hope

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Post#3361 » by Kizz Fastfists » Sat Apr 6, 2019 2:53 am

bondom34 wrote:Herro may well be there. Vecenie's last board had him at 24, and he's talking w/ NBA scouts and whatnot.


I expect him to climb to the 10-12 range as he goes through the process. He's a good shooter and that will get his stock moving up. Right now he is generally being projected around 20, which is in line for OKC. I'm already getting myself ready for the Tre Jones selection. I like Nickeil Alexander-Walker more than Herro, but would be happy with either.
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Post#3362 » by bondom34 » Sat Apr 6, 2019 2:58 am

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bondom34 wrote:Herro may well be there. Vecenie's last board had him at 24, and he's talking w/ NBA scouts and whatnot.


I expect him to climb to the 10-12 range as he goes through the process. He's a good shooter and that will get his stock moving up. Right now he is generally being projected around 20, which is in line for OKC. I'm already getting myself ready for the Tre Jones selection. I like Nickeil Alexander-Walker more than Herro, but would be happy with either.

I like him better as well, I'm not terribly big on Herro myself.
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Post#3363 » by Dn4sty » Sat Apr 6, 2019 4:39 am

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bondom34 wrote:Herro may well be there. Vecenie's last board had him at 24, and he's talking w/ NBA scouts and whatnot.


I expect him to climb to the 10-12 range as he goes through the process. He's a good shooter and that will get his stock moving up. Right now he is generally being projected around 20, which is in line for OKC. I'm already getting myself ready for the Tre Jones selection. I like Nickeil Alexander-Walker more than Herro, but would be happy with either.

I like him better as well, I'm not terribly big on Herro myself.


I think Herro can be a better Troy Daniels which is an ok player. I don’t think he’s Redick/Ross level. I don’t think he rises that much. I’d be ok with taking him but would rather go with Thybulle or Bol (I know I said I didn’t want him but I’ve changed my mind).
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Post#3364 » by bondom34 » Sat Apr 6, 2019 4:42 am

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I expect him to climb to the 10-12 range as he goes through the process. He's a good shooter and that will get his stock moving up. Right now he is generally being projected around 20, which is in line for OKC. I'm already getting myself ready for the Tre Jones selection. I like Nickeil Alexander-Walker more than Herro, but would be happy with either.

I like him better as well, I'm not terribly big on Herro myself.


I think Herro can be a better Troy Daniels which is an ok player. I don’t think he’s Redick/Ross level. I don’t think he rises that much. I’d be ok with taking him but would rather go with Thybulle or Bol (I know I said I didn’t want him but I’ve changed my mind).

yeah just looking at a general big board I'm skeptical of Bol myself. I like NAW a lot, and Thybulle. Also kind of like Grant Williams.
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Post#3365 » by Osirus89 » Sat Apr 6, 2019 5:27 am

Bol Bol would be pretty funny. It would be one hell of a gamble and I think he will get picked before OKC can get him, but I wouldn't hate it. Team kinda needs to take a risky gamble in this draft. Even the guys that are projected to be contributors will be like Ferg and take some time to even reach a competent NBA level.

Thybulle is probably the most no-assembly-required guy in our range, but if his 3pt doesn't prove to be at least decent he will have trouble having a consistent role. On the other hand, if he can improve his shot like JG did, he could be a beast. Dre with a jumpshot.

Herro looks pretty good too. Can shoot off the dribble and spot up.
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Post#3366 » by ThunderBolt » Sat Apr 6, 2019 9:34 am

For the record I think Bol likely busts and becomes injury prone but I’m still tempted to take the risk. Drafting for role players to fit alongside russ and pg is kind of a lost cause at this point. We aren’t good enough for that to better and don’t have the time to wait on them to develop. I would rather take a risk on someone that has high enough potential to be elite if they stay healthy and things work out. Also I’m asking the organization to take a frail guy and not rush him so that he re-injures himself. That’s how desperate I am.
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Post#3367 » by ThunderBolt » Sat Apr 6, 2019 9:36 am

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bondom34 wrote:Herro may well be there. Vecenie's last board had him at 24, and he's talking w/ NBA scouts and whatnot.


I expect him to climb to the 10-12 range as he goes through the process. He's a good shooter and that will get his stock moving up. Right now he is generally being projected around 20, which is in line for OKC. I'm already getting myself ready for the Tre Jones selection. I like Nickeil Alexander-Walker more than Herro, but would be happy with either.

Why has Alexander-walker dropped so much? He was top ten prospect a month or two ago.
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Post#3368 » by ThunderBolt » Sat Apr 6, 2019 11:39 am

bondom34 wrote:
Dn4sty wrote:
bondom34 wrote:I like him better as well, I'm not terribly big on Herro myself.


I think Herro can be a better Troy Daniels which is an ok player. I don’t think he’s Redick/Ross level. I don’t think he rises that much. I’d be ok with taking him but would rather go with Thybulle or Bol (I know I said I didn’t want him but I’ve changed my mind).

yeah just looking at a general big board I'm skeptical of Bol myself. I like NAW a lot, and Thybulle. Also kind of like Grant Williams.


Isn't Thybulle considered a bit of a reach for a pick around 18? If we somehow had a a pick to get him in the second round I think that could be in ideal situation.
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Post#3369 » by acheema0 » Sat Apr 6, 2019 1:27 pm

ThunderBolt wrote:For the record I think Bol likely busts and becomes injury prone but I’m still tempted to take the risk. Drafting for role players to fit alongside russ and pg is kind of a lost cause at this point. We aren’t good enough for that to better and don’t have the time to wait on them to develop. I would rather take a risk on someone that has high enough potential to be elite if they stay healthy and things work out. Also I’m asking the organization to take a frail guy and not rush him so that he re-injures himself. That’s how desperate I am.


I was kind of low on Bol when I first started thinking about it, but I thought about some more and I think I'd be fine with him. Sure I think there are some wings who could/would help more in the immediate future (such as Thybulle who I do really like) but why not swing for the fences on Bol, we're not winning w this roster anyway. Herro is someone who I dont think Presti would take (look at his wingspan), and if we just stood him in the corner all game on offense anyway I dont think he'd become as good as he could on another team.
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Post#3370 » by Dn4sty » Sat Apr 6, 2019 6:47 pm

ThunderBolt wrote:For the record I think Bol likely busts and becomes injury prone but I’m still tempted to take the risk. Drafting for role players to fit alongside russ and pg is kind of a lost cause at this point. We aren’t good enough for that to better and don’t have the time to wait on them to develop. I would rather take a risk on someone that has high enough potential to be elite if they stay healthy and things work out. Also I’m asking the organization to take a frail guy and not rush him so that he re-injures himself. That’s how desperate I am.


Basically this is why I changed my mind about him. He has Gobert wingspan and Embiid ability as a ceiling. I don’t think he ever gets to that level, but I think you gotta take a chance on the very rare chance he does.
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Post#3371 » by acheema0 » Sat Apr 6, 2019 7:22 pm

Read on Twitter
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We have to win out to ensure we don't get the 8 seed, meaning we control our destiny against 1 lotto team and 2 teams who will likely be resting the bulk of their starters. Can't wait to see how we **** this up.
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Post#3372 » by RunOKC » Sat Apr 6, 2019 7:41 pm

acheema0 wrote:
Read on Twitter
?s=21

We have to win out to ensure we don't get the 8 seed, meaning we control our destiny against 1 lotto team and 2 teams who will likely be resting the bulk of their starters. Can't wait to see how we **** this up.

That lotto team is more worrying than the Rockets or Bucks even at full strength. Somehow. :banghead:
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Post#3373 » by Dadouv47 » Sat Apr 6, 2019 8:23 pm

RunOKC wrote:
acheema0 wrote:
Read on Twitter
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We have to win out to ensure we don't get the 8 seed, meaning we control our destiny against 1 lotto team and 2 teams who will likely be resting the bulk of their starters. Can't wait to see how we **** this up.

That lotto team is more worrying than the Rockets or Bucks even at full strength. Somehow. :banghead:


Think the rockets could play with full team. Not sure they will be locked for 3rd spot and it could be better for them if we play the Warriors (and not them too). Not that we are a good team but pretty sure Houston/Gs prefer to play the Spurs or Clippers in a first round series.
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Post#3374 » by NaturalThunder » Sun Apr 7, 2019 2:59 am

Dadouv47 wrote:
RunOKC wrote:
acheema0 wrote:
Read on Twitter
?s=21

We have to win out to ensure we don't get the 8 seed, meaning we control our destiny against 1 lotto team and 2 teams who will likely be resting the bulk of their starters. Can't wait to see how we **** this up.

That lotto team is more worrying than the Rockets or Bucks even at full strength. Somehow. :banghead:


Think the rockets could play with full team. Not sure they will be locked for 3rd spot and it could be better for them if we play the Warriors (and not them too). Not that we are a good team but pretty sure Houston/Gs prefer to play the Spurs or Clippers in a first round series.

I don't know how any coach and/or player could possibly be worried about us as their 1st round opponent if they've paid attention to what we've done since the All-Star break. I don't care what "name" players we have on our roster. We're easily the least intimidating Western Conference playoff team and there's only two or three Eastern Conference playoff teams who would be easier first round fodder than us.
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Post#3375 » by Dn4sty » Sun Apr 7, 2019 3:20 am

NaturalThunder wrote:
Dadouv47 wrote:
RunOKC wrote:That lotto team is more worrying than the Rockets or Bucks even at full strength. Somehow. :banghead:


Think the rockets could play with full team. Not sure they will be locked for 3rd spot and it could be better for them if we play the Warriors (and not them too). Not that we are a good team but pretty sure Houston/Gs prefer to play the Spurs or Clippers in a first round series.

I don't know how any coach and/or player could possibly be worried about us as their 1st round opponent if they've paid attention to what we've done since the All-Star break. I don't care what "name" players we have on our roster. We're easily the least intimidating Western Conference playoff team and there's only two or three Eastern Conference playoff teams who would be easier first round fodder than us.


I’d take OKC over the following teams right now

Spurs
Clippers
Trailblazers (no nurkic)
Magic
Pistons
Pacers
Nets
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Post#3376 » by Kizz Fastfists » Sun Apr 7, 2019 4:23 am

Dn4sty wrote:I’d take OKC over the following teams right now

Spurs
Clippers
Trailblazers (no nurkic)
Magic
Pistons
Pacers
Nets


You might as well throw in Phoenix, Cleveland, Chicago and Atlanta as OKC would beat them, but won't be playing them in the playoffs either.
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Post#3377 » by Dadouv47 » Sun Apr 7, 2019 2:53 pm

Kizz Fastfists wrote:
Dn4sty wrote:I’d take OKC over the following teams right now

Spurs
Clippers
Trailblazers (no nurkic)
Magic
Pistons
Pacers
Nets


You might as well throw in Phoenix, Cleveland, Chicago and Atlanta as OKC would beat them, but won't be playing them in the playoffs either.


We are barely a top 10 team in the league (the worst in a long time for us). If we can't improve for next year it's better to start rebuilding (being an average team is the worst that can happen to a team, no contention and no picks)
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Post#3378 » by Dn4sty » Sun Apr 7, 2019 5:01 pm

Dadouv47 wrote:
Kizz Fastfists wrote:
Dn4sty wrote:I’d take OKC over the following teams right now

Spurs
Clippers
Trailblazers (no nurkic)
Magic
Pistons
Pacers
Nets


You might as well throw in Phoenix, Cleveland, Chicago and Atlanta as OKC would beat them, but won't be playing them in the playoffs either.


We are barely a top 10 team in the league (the worst in a long time for us). If we can't improve for next year it's better to start rebuilding (being an average team is the worst that can happen to a team, no contention and no picks)


I’m as frustrated as anyone, but this post is nonsense.
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Post#3379 » by Dadouv47 » Sun Apr 7, 2019 5:54 pm

Dn4sty wrote:
Dadouv47 wrote:
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You might as well throw in Phoenix, Cleveland, Chicago and Atlanta as OKC would beat them, but won't be playing them in the playoffs either.


We are barely a top 10 team in the league (the worst in a long time for us). If we can't improve for next year it's better to start rebuilding (being an average team is the worst that can happen to a team, no contention and no picks)


I’m as frustrated as anyone, but this post is nonsense.


?? explain plz. what is no sense about saying that being an (above) average team is the worst position possible for a team in the NBA?
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Post#3380 » by Dn4sty » Sun Apr 7, 2019 5:57 pm

Dadouv47 wrote:
Dn4sty wrote:
Dadouv47 wrote:
We are barely a top 10 team in the league (the worst in a long time for us). If we can't improve for next year it's better to start rebuilding (being an average team is the worst that can happen to a team, no contention and no picks)


I’m as frustrated as anyone, but this post is nonsense.


?? explain plz. what is no sense about saying that being an (above) average team is the worst position possible for a team in the NBA?


I’m not saying that a rebuild shouldn’t happen. I am saying that OKC is a FAR better team than “barely a top 10 team in the league” which is exactly what you said.

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