Thunder Offseason Thread

[ThunderBolt]

a third team would be involved to take someone like waiters. this is where i think one or more of our picks come into play. we would get well under the tax and miami would be able to match salaries.

So you think the actual trade to Miami won't cost us a pick being sent to them? We will send it to a third team for the salary dump?

yes. something like:

miami sends: dragic, johnson, waiters or olynyk, derrick jones
miami receives: paul, roberson

okc sends: paul, roberson, a pick
okc receives: dragic, johnson, derrick jones

dal sends: nothing
dal receives: waiters or olynyk, a pick

miami gets a cap neutral deal for chris paul while also deleting two 2020-21 salaries, okc clears westbrook while getting under the tax this year and only taking on 16m next year for johnson, and dallas gets a pick for helping.

All things considered, that's not bad if it materializes. I'm sure with the amount of salary cleared that will be more than enough to recover the value of more than one first round pick, especially if its not one of our better ones.

[McFurious1]

Winning a title is overrated (I'm kidding) but let's not understated the fact that we had such a great decade as a franchise, with 2 players winning MVPs, another having a MVP year, 4 WCF trips, one final.
Those last 3 years of losing in the first round just showed how great our team was before that and how much we enjoyed watching our guys (Durant/Westbrook/Harden/Ibaka). Not many teams had the same luck.
Now it's time to suffer for some years with the hope to bounce back stronger and that this franchise will learn from his past mistakes.

As a Raptor fan you guys were really lucky. You haven't experienced what new franchise's have to deal with, but on the bright side you have a huge collection of picks to either grab nice young pieces or use them in a blockbuster trade.

So in all it could have been a lot worse like losing your best players for nothing ala my franchise that hurts a lot more.

[dshearn]

Who says no to this

OKC:
CP3
MIA '21 1st, i'd consider adding our Memphis '24 2nd round pick if neccesary/possible to get Herro



MIA:
Winslow or Herro
Remove restrictions from '23 1st
Fillers

Its going to be interesting to watch, as a Mia fan i would really....realllllllyyy..... hope something like this never happens.

To me CP3 is a negitive value, I personally would want nothing to do with him that had a cost to aquire attached to it.

I think the filers that would be added have more value then CP3 when you factor in lenght of contract.

CP3 likely has more value to other teams then he does to MIA.

[Balkman32]

Winning a title is overrated (I'm kidding) but let's not understated the fact that we had such a great decade as a franchise, with 2 players winning MVPs, another having a MVP year, 4 WCF trips, one final.
Those last 3 years of losing in the first round just showed how great our team was before that and how much we enjoyed watching our guys (Durant/Westbrook/Harden/Ibaka). Not many teams had the same luck.
Now it's time to suffer for some years with the hope to bounce back stronger and that this franchise will learn from his past mistakes.

As a Raptor fan you guys were really lucky. You haven't experienced what new franchise's have to deal with, but on the bright side you have a huge collection of picks to either grab nice young pieces or use them in a blockbuster trade.

So in all it could have been a lot worse like losing your best players for nothing ala my franchise that hurts a lot more.

AS a Thunder fan you are really lucky because you my friend just celebrated a championship. Congrats and sorry we helped Kawhi leave.

[alessandrux]

As a Raptor fan you guys were really lucky. You haven't experienced what new franchise's have to deal with, but on the bright side you have a huge collection of picks to either grab nice young pieces or use them in a blockbuster trade.

So in all it could have been a lot worse like losing your best players for nothing ala my franchise that hurts a lot more.

Smile. Be happy.
You got a championship out of it, I hope that makes it more than up.

[slick_watts]

So you think the actual trade to Miami won't cost us a pick being sent to them? We will send it to a third team for the salary dump?

yes. something like:

miami sends: dragic, johnson, waiters or olynyk, derrick jones
miami receives: paul, roberson

okc sends: paul, roberson, a pick
okc receives: dragic, johnson, derrick jones

dal sends: nothing
dal receives: waiters or olynyk, a pick

miami gets a cap neutral deal for chris paul while also deleting two 2020-21 salaries, okc clears westbrook while getting under the tax this year and only taking on 16m next year for johnson, and dallas gets a pick for helping.

All things considered, that's not bad if it materializes. I'm sure with the amount of salary cleared that will be more than enough to recover the value of more than one first round pick, especially if its not one of our better ones.

it's going to be whatever it's going to be because cp3 ain't staying.

[ThunderBolt]

So in all it could have been a lot worse like losing your best players for nothing ala my franchise that hurts a lot more.

Imagine if the Warriors came back and beat the raptors and instead of joining the clippers he went to GS.

[Old Man Game]

a third team would be involved to take someone like waiters. this is where i think one or more of our picks come into play. we would get well under the tax and miami would be able to match salaries.

So you think the actual trade to Miami won't cost us a pick being sent to them? We will send it to a third team for the salary dump?

yes. something like:

miami sends: dragic, johnson, waiters or olynyk, derrick jones
miami receives: paul, roberson

okc sends: paul, roberson, a pick
okc receives: dragic, johnson, derrick jones

dal sends: nothing
dal receives: waiters or olynyk, a pick

miami gets a cap neutral deal for chris paul while also deleting two 2020-21 salaries, okc clears westbrook while getting under the tax this year and only taking on 16m next year for johnson, and dallas gets a pick for helping.

That still slightly increases Miami's payroll. According to the piece from the Miami newspaper the other day, their goal is to reduce payroll.

[ThunderBolt]

While the Miami Heat have been prominent in the conversations, there are other possibilities being explored for Paul.

I'm curious about these "other possibilites".

[Old Man Game]

This works, reduces Thunder and Miami payrolls.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y5rwoozn

[wco81]

[Balkman32]

This works, reduces Thunder and Miami payrolls.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y5rwoozn

I think Dre would be good for this team. He also does not hold much value right now. But, give him a half season with this team he might get bring back a pick.

[Rapaz]

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[ThunderBolt]

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[Old Man Game]

More I think about this 'the Thunder wanted to include Roberson' story the more it sounds like a plant with friendly local media to provide a front office with cover for failing to acquire a player that many fans in that fanbase wanted (Justin, a Miami local said the town was abuzz with Russell Westbrook news over the weekend).

The Heat are hard capped and will have to still build out a roster after trading away several pieces to acquire Russ (or now CP3). That Presti asked them to absorb a guy who hasn't played in 18 months and makes 10 million while also taking a 38 million dollar contract AND knowing they'd have limited means to fill out a competent roster, to me that stretches the bounds of credulity just a bit. Not saying it for sure didn't happen, but I'm somewhat skeptical. If he did it goes up there with the story about him trying to trade Perk for the 2nd overall pick as the most absurd things he's done in a trade negotiation.

[alessandrux]

If he did it goes up there with the story about him trying to trade Perk for the 2nd overall pick as the most absurd things he's done in a trade negotiation.

Never heard about that, do you mind to elaborate? (And thanks for introducing me to the word credulity, that is a new word for me).

[Old Man Game]

If he did it goes up there with the story about him trying to trade Perk for the 2nd overall pick as the most absurd things he's done in a trade negotiation.

Never heard about that, do you mind to elaborate? (And thanks for introducing me to the word credulity, that is a new word for me).

Google it. There was reporting that he tried to trade Orlando Perkins for the 2nd overall pick the year Oladipo was eventually drafted in that spot.

https://thunderousintentions.com/2013/06/26/nba-draft-trade-rumors-okc-thunder-kendrick-perkins-top-five-pick/

[BBallFreak]

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LMAO! You guys can trade him elsewhere, then. He has less value than Westbrook. You cannot honestly expect him to fetch that kind of return. No clue who this Sardine guy is, but he's very very wrong if he thinks Riley gives up talent like that for a $40 million/per year Chris Paul who can only stay on the court for 3/4 of a season. Sorry guys, nothing personal, but this is clearly a smokescreen, trying to drive up the price. At this point, I wouldn't even include Derrick Jones Jr...

[slick_watts]

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LMAO! You guys can trade him elsewhere, then. He has less value than Westbrook. You cannot honestly expect him to fetch that kind of return. No clue who this Sardine guy is, but he's very very wrong if he thinks Riley gives up talent like that for a $40 million/per year Chris Paul who can only stay on the court for 3/4 of a season. Sorry guys, nothing personal, but this is clearly a smokescreen, trying to drive up the price. At this point, I wouldn't even include Derrick Jones Jr...

you're going to get chris paul and you are not going to like it. i'm sorry. prepare yourself.

[ThunderBolt]

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LMAO! You guys can trade him elsewhere, then. He has less value than Westbrook. You cannot honestly expect him to fetch that kind of return. No clue who this Sardine guy is, but he's very very wrong if he thinks Riley gives up talent like that for a $40 million/per year Chris Paul who can only stay on the court for 3/4 of a season. Sorry guys, nothing personal, but this is clearly a smokescreen, trying to drive up the price. At this point, I wouldn't even include Derrick Jones Jr...