Trade Ideas, AKA Please God Bring Us Shooters

[Pillendreher]

So even though 2Pat player a bit of decent defense on KD, OKC could really use another PF

Lol @ everyone who said 2Pat > Grant at the beginning of the season. If 2Pat doesn’t show to be more consistent from behind the arc by the deadline, I would definitely trade him to a team desperate for some kind of stretch 4.

We would be better off doubling down on defense or grabbing another project wing. Patterson for Bender? Why not?


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Because Bender sucks, that's why. And no, we would not be better "doubling down on defense" or "grabbing another project wing". Please stop pushing this nonsense.

[RalphSampsonJr]

So even though 2Pat player a bit of decent defense on KD, OKC could really use another PF

Lol @ everyone who said 2Pat > Grant at the beginning of the season. If 2Pat doesn’t show to be more consistent from behind the arc by the deadline, I would definitely trade him to a team desperate for some kind of stretch 4.

We would be better off doubling down on defense or grabbing another project wing. Patterson for Bender? Why not?


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Bender?! He cant even make it on the court for the suns!
I agree 2Pat has been awful and is most likely our best option for trade but with the thunder being so crap at 3s you need all the shooting you can get. He will be better at shooting over the long run.

Of you could trade abrines and 2pat for a solid stretch 4 then cool but thats probably not gonna happen

[RalphSampsonJr]

Abrines and 2pat for the wiz morris twin? If you could get morris and that back up pg they got that would be ideal.

[Pillendreher]

So even though 2Pat player a bit of decent defense on KD, OKC could really use another PF

Lol @ everyone who said 2Pat > Grant at the beginning of the season. If 2Pat doesn’t show to be more consistent from behind the arc by the deadline, I would definitely trade him to a team desperate for some kind of stretch 4.

We would be better off doubling down on defense or grabbing another project wing. Patterson for Bender? Why not?


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Bender?! He cant even make it on the court for the suns!
I agree 2Pat has been awful and is most likely our best option for trade but with the thunder being so crap at 3s you need all the shooting you can get. He will be better at shooting over the long run.

Of you could trade abrines and 2pat for a solid stretch 4 then cool but thats probably not gonna happen

He already is a stretch 4.

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[RalphSampsonJr]

Lol @ everyone who said 2Pat > Grant at the beginning of the season. If 2Pat doesn’t show to be more consistent from behind the arc by the deadline, I would definitely trade him to a team desperate for some kind of stretch 4.

We would be better off doubling down on defense or grabbing another project wing. Patterson for Bender? Why not?


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Bender?! He cant even make it on the court for the suns!
I agree 2Pat has been awful and is most likely our best option for trade but with the thunder being so crap at 3s you need all the shooting you can get. He will be better at shooting over the long run.

Of you could trade abrines and 2pat for a solid stretch 4 then cool but thats probably not gonna happen

He already is a stretch 4.

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Key word is solid. 2Pat has not been anywhere near as solid aa i thought he would be.

[Pillendreher]

Bender?! He cant even make it on the court for the suns!
I agree 2Pat has been awful and is most likely our best option for trade but with the thunder being so crap at 3s you need all the shooting you can get. He will be better at shooting over the long run.

Of you could trade abrines and 2pat for a solid stretch 4 then cool but thats probably not gonna happen

He already is a stretch 4.

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Key word is solid. 2Pat has not been anywhere near as solid aa i thought he would be.

I don't know what's up with him. He looks like he lacks rhythm. He should get minutes with the starters so he can get going a bit. There's no reason for him not to.

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[ThunderBolt]

I like Bogdan Bogdanovic. A lot. If we want a $10,000,000 rookie contract then that’s the guy we should target.

[RalphSampsonJr]

He already is a stretch 4.

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Key word is solid. 2Pat has not been anywhere near as solid aa i thought he would be.

I don't know what's up with him. He looks like he lacks rhythm. He should get minutes with the starters so he can get going a bit. There's no reason for him not to.

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I wouldnt be too concerned if he was just cold fron three but it seems all aspects of his game are off.
We all know he cant rebound but he got dominated by a rookie the other day and cant seem to finish easy buckets.
Meanwhile Grant has shaken off his cold start and seems to be very productive with his minutes.
The 4 is the weak point atm and still will be if everyone is healthy. If you can package 2pat and TLC/Abrines for an upgrade im all for that.

[Pillendreher]

Key word is solid. 2Pat has not been anywhere near as solid aa i thought he would be.

I don't know what's up with him. He looks like he lacks rhythm. He should get minutes with the starters so he can get going a bit. There's no reason for him not to.

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I wouldnt be too concerned if he was just cold fron three but it seems all aspects of his game are off.
We all know he cant rebound but he got dominated by a rookie the other day and cant seem to finish easy buckets.

And that's exactly why I think that he needs a different kind of role. To begin the season, he looked more in rhythm. But now he's back not not being able to do anything. I think you shouldn't restrict him to these bench lineups. IIRC, Toronto did play him with a starters-bench mix when he was among the best of the best in total +/-.

[ThunderBolt]

I don't know what's up with him. He looks like he lacks rhythm. He should get minutes with the starters so he can get going a bit. There's no reason for him not to.

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I wouldnt be too concerned if he was just cold fron three but it seems all aspects of his game are off.
We all know he cant rebound but he got dominated by a rookie the other day and cant seem to finish easy buckets.

And that's exactly why I think that he needs a different kind of role. To begin the season, he looked more in rhythm. But now he's back not not being able to do anything. I think you shouldn't restrict him to these bench lineups. IIRC, Toronto did play him with a starters-bench mix when he was among the best of the best in total +/-.

I’m starting to lose hope. He’s getting good looks and missing them. I don’t remever if it was the Kings or Suns game but he fumbled several easy passes under the basket and rebounds.

[Dn4sty]

Minnesota gets 2Pat and a future 2nd
OKC gets Tolliver

[RalphSampsonJr]

Minnesota gets 2Pat and a future 2nd
OKC gets Tolliver

Now that i can get on board with!

[Mattv]

I like Bogdan Bogdanovic. A lot. If we want a $10,000,000 rookie contract then that’s the guy we should target.

Yeah he would be a good pick up but could Okc get him without giving up alot or draft picks and do okc really need another Sg?

[ThunderBolt]

I like Bogdan Bogdanovic. A lot. If we want a $10,000,000 rookie contract then that’s the guy we should target.

Yeah he would be a good pick up but could Okc get him without giving up alot or draft picks and do okc really need another Sg?

No they couldn’t get him without giving up a lot. He’s more of a wish list type player for me but they could absolutely use him. Sacramento uses him at the three as well.

[hardenASG13]

But patterson, I've been told, is a 38% 3pt shooter!!! 38!

Grant has outplayed the guy every night basically, often by a wide margin......on both ends (grant has been good defensively, whether you will admit it or not). I don't see anyone giving up much aside from a failed prospect they want to move on from though, as patterson has shown to be average at best as a "stretch shooter". Anyone with eyes the past year plus can see he doesn't do almost anything else well. There is a second turd brother pillendreher, but its your boy patterson (fatterson? Fat"turd"son?).

Im all for a guy like morris for fatterson and ferg if someone still wants ferg which is possible, but honestly the team doesn't need to make any trades right now though, they are really good as currently constructed at the moment. Maybe they can find a legit shooter close to the deadline when tanking intensifies or a buyout presents itself.

[slick_watts]

I don't know what's up with him. He looks like he lacks rhythm. He should get minutes with the starters so he can get going a bit. There's no reason for him not to.

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I wouldnt be too concerned if he was just cold fron three but it seems all aspects of his game are off.
We all know he cant rebound but he got dominated by a rookie the other day and cant seem to finish easy buckets.

And that's exactly why I think that he needs a different kind of role. To begin the season, he looked more in rhythm. But now he's back not not being able to do anything. I think you shouldn't restrict him to these bench lineups. IIRC, Toronto did play him with a starters-bench mix when he was among the best of the best in total +/-.

it's getting close to the point where we have to discount what he did in toronto and accept ppat as what he is now. i don't think he's bad or anything but he's clearly not the same player he was for whatever reasons. aside from his knee issues since then, it's also just possible that a player like him doesn't fit as well into our kind of structure.

at the same time it's also beginning to look like maybe some of us underestimated grant. i'm not ready to say that for sure, but the initial rpm gap between him and patterson (which has been growing since the start of last season) is not a good sign considering grant's boxscore advantages on top of that. it will be something to watch as the season progresses.

i still think patterson's skillset would be better taken advantage of with the starters, and it sucks that he didn't really get a chance to play with the westbrook starters at all.

[spearsy23]

Grant has definitely been better, which is a problem because he's still not close to starter level.

[slick_watts]

Grant has definitely been better, which is a problem because he's still not close to starter level.

what evidence would you need to convince you that he is?

[hardenASG13]

Grant has definitely been better, which is a problem because he's still not close to starter level.

what evidence would you need to convince you that he is?

Exactly. He's a versatile defender who is very good in helpside and rim protection. Consistently scores on double figures on offense with little to nothing run for him. What more do want? The starters, like always, have been great. Now they have a competent bench, too

[hardenASG13]

I wouldnt be too concerned if he was just cold fron three but it seems all aspects of his game are off.
We all know he cant rebound but he got dominated by a rookie the other day and cant seem to finish easy buckets.

And that's exactly why I think that he needs a different kind of role. To begin the season, he looked more in rhythm. But now he's back not not being able to do anything. I think you shouldn't restrict him to these bench lineups. IIRC, Toronto did play him with a starters-bench mix when he was among the best of the best in total +/-.

it's getting close to the point where we have to discount what he did in toronto and accept ppat as what he is now. i don't think he's bad or anything but he's clearly not the same player he was for whatever reasons. aside from his knee issues since then, it's also just possible that a player like him doesn't fit as well into our kind of structure.

at the same time it's also beginning to look like maybe some of us underestimated grant. i'm not ready to say that for sure, but the initial rpm gap between him and patterson (which has been growing since the start of last season) is not a good sign considering grant's boxscore advantages on top of that. it will be something to watch as the season progresses.

i still think patterson's skillset would be better taken advantage of with the starters, and it sucks that he didn't really get a chance to play with the westbrook starters at all.

Close to the point? It was evident much of last season, and the grant vs. Patterson debate has been a laugher this season. The next notion you guys should drop, based on numbers in a completely different situation, is that Schroeder doesn't defend and that his shooting percentage minimizes his offensive talents. He has been an amazing pickup for OKC, and is and always has been a guy who consistently puts up points on a nightly basis, which this team has been sorely lacking outside of their main stars. Adding good players, that can get where ever they want and run an offense, in exchange for melo, is a good thing. Embrace it!